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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #135 on: December 07, 2013, 09:38:33 AM »
The way Cafe Press works, once you have created your own design on something, it stays on the database and can be used by anyone else for anything (that's why they're real nitpickers about non-copyrighted images). Someone could have designed a notebook with that icon, and it snowballed from there. Pure ignorance, not necessarily malicious.

As for the icon colouring pages, I see nothing wrong with them. They're standard Sunday school teaching material. Let the kids become familiar with them, learn to recognise the people depicted, and worry about proper painting techniques (much) later.
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #136 on: December 07, 2013, 01:19:32 PM »

I actually ran across some more thongs today with "IC XC NIKA" on them. I can really only pray it's someone intending to blaspheme, because otherwise  Orthodox people are even more accidentally iconoclastic than I originally believed.


Young 'un buys icon underwear online. Kewl!

Mother (or father) finds these garments in the laundry basket ....

"It can be a great evangelizing tool," said the creator of icon underwear. "Some young people find it difficult to talk to their parents about their interest in Orthodoxy. This underwear provides opportunities for conversation."
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #137 on: December 08, 2013, 11:06:49 AM »
I won't beat Agabus, but some things made in Serbia:

T-shirt "Orthodox nations"

T-shirt "Serb forever" (the slogan is OK, but what about just a half of the Cross???)

And my favourite, seen by me in reality (but it was a woolen version):

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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #138 on: December 11, 2013, 12:36:48 AM »
The way Cafe Press works, once you have created your own design on something, it stays on the database and can be used by anyone else for anything (that's why they're real nitpickers about non-copyrighted images). Someone could have designed a notebook with that icon, and it snowballed from there. Pure ignorance, not necessarily malicious.
I was hoping nobody would spoil it...
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #139 on: December 11, 2013, 11:38:03 AM »
The way Cafe Press works, once you have created your own design on something, it stays on the database and can be used by anyone else for anything (that's why they're real nitpickers about non-copyrighted images). Someone could have designed a notebook with that icon, and it snowballed from there. Pure ignorance, not necessarily malicious.
I was hoping nobody would spoil it...

So you're saying that someone didn't necessarily want a sexy thong with an icon of Christ?
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #140 on: December 11, 2013, 02:43:05 PM »
The way Cafe Press works, once you have created your own design on something, it stays on the database and can be used by anyone else for anything (that's why they're real nitpickers about non-copyrighted images). Someone could have designed a notebook with that icon, and it snowballed from there. Pure ignorance, not necessarily malicious.
I was hoping nobody would spoil it...

So you're saying that someone didn't necessarily want a sexy thong with an icon of Christ?
Nonsense, of course someone wanted it.  Otherwise, I would not have purchased 6 pairs.
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #141 on: December 11, 2013, 02:56:16 PM »
The way Cafe Press works, once you have created your own design on something, it stays on the database and can be used by anyone else for anything (that's why they're real nitpickers about non-copyrighted images). Someone could have designed a notebook with that icon, and it snowballed from there. Pure ignorance, not necessarily malicious.
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So you're saying that someone didn't necessarily want a sexy thong with an icon of Christ?
Nonsense, of course someone wanted it.  Otherwise, I would not have purchased 6 pairs.

Oh, you got the "multiple girlfriends discount" too?  And by 6 pairs, do you mean 6 thongs for 12 cheeks ;) or 12 thongs?
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #142 on: December 11, 2013, 08:41:02 PM »
Be sure to not miss the opportunity to pick up a pair of Christ the Teacher leggings, to round out your wife, daughter, or girlfriend's wardrobe.

http://www.zazzle.com/christ_the_teacher_legging-256133942985918003

I'd post the photo but I got that annoying message about the upload folder being full - which is always the case whenever I try to post a photo - grrr!

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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #144 on: December 12, 2013, 01:54:23 PM »
I won't beat Agabus, but some things made in Serbia:

T-shirt "Orthodox nations"

T-shirt "Serb forever" (the slogan is OK, but what about just a half of the Cross???)

And my favourite, seen by me in reality (but it was a woolen version):



How come it is possible that all Netodox Serbians are this Patriotic? Is "irony" heretical Western innovation or something?

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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #145 on: December 12, 2013, 02:34:21 PM »
How come it is possible that all Netodox Serbians are this Patriotic? Is "irony" heretical Western innovation or something?

I know someone IRL who wears a red, yellow and blue one (Romanian national colours). He's also one of the most honest, down-to-earth and kind-hearted people I know. He just prefers colourful to black stuff, I guess.  :-X

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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #146 on: December 12, 2013, 02:45:06 PM »
So you're saying that someone didn't necessarily want a sexy thong with an icon of Christ?

I have it on good authority that it's going to be marketed as a chastity device. Because we don't do chastity belts in the 21st century. Butt floss is more 'It'. :P
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #147 on: December 12, 2013, 02:49:37 PM »
LOL. So earnest it's almost Evangelical.

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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #148 on: December 12, 2013, 02:54:33 PM »
LOL. So earnest it's almost Evangelical.



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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #149 on: December 12, 2013, 05:02:37 PM »
I know someone IRL who wears a red, yellow and blue one (Romanian national colours). He's also one of the most honest, down-to-earth and kind-hearted people I know. He just prefers colourful to black stuff, I guess.  :-X

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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #150 on: December 17, 2013, 06:54:45 PM »
Have not decited yet schlock or not:

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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #152 on: December 17, 2013, 07:17:24 PM »


Ewwww!


I saw one of those at TJs. The young lad wearing it said that they are quite popular and he had no idea that it came from the Orthodox tradition. He just thought it was cool because a lot of Armenians here like to wear them.
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #153 on: December 17, 2013, 10:06:21 PM »


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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #154 on: December 17, 2013, 10:25:52 PM »
Found it at Target the other day, but this is the only picture I can find of it online. It's a 1,000-piece puzzle of Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood, St. Petersburg. I didn't really think it was schlock, but thought I'd share it here either way.

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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #155 on: December 17, 2013, 10:41:17 PM »
Have not decited yet schlock or not:



Orthodox or not, you really can't beat a traditional, three dimensional Nativity scene.  I've seen two dimension examples like that above, and it just doesn't work.  I'd rather they use a huge but conventional icon if they have to use an icon.  But still, Nativity scenes are one thing for which I encourage good statuary.   
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #156 on: December 17, 2013, 10:56:55 PM »


Ewwww!


I saw one of those at TJs. The young lad wearing it said that they are quite popular and he had no idea that it came from the Orthodox tradition. He just thought it was cool because a lot of Armenians here like to wear them.

The markings in these clothes only resemble those of Orthodox monastic garments. What is actually written is either gibberish, or modern song lyrics. Be that as it may, the appropriation, even in butchered form, of monastic insignia by fashion designers is disgusting.
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« Reply #158 on: December 17, 2013, 10:59:17 PM »
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« Reply #159 on: December 17, 2013, 11:00:39 PM »


Ewwww!


I saw one of those at TJs. The young lad wearing it said that they are quite popular and he had no idea that it came from the Orthodox tradition. He just thought it was cool because a lot of Armenians here like to wear them.

I've never seen it.  Thank goodness.
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« Reply #160 on: December 17, 2013, 11:10:18 PM »




Oyyyy!!!!  :P :P >:(

More "oyyy" factor: The passage in the Gospel book Christ is holding is from Mark 8 :34:

“Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me."


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« Reply #161 on: December 18, 2013, 07:28:50 AM »



You can venerate the icon before you do a selfie.
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #162 on: December 18, 2013, 08:26:46 AM »

It's a beautiful icon, and I have an icon as my home screen on my cellphone, however, as a cover....not so sure.

The icon would be banging against the table, your fingers would be pawing at it, you'd be sliding it in to your pocket, or stuffing it in your purse, along with loose change and receipts, you'd be dropping it, etc.

Besides, they cut off the top of His head, etc.

I don't think it's appropriate.
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« Reply #163 on: December 18, 2013, 08:46:03 AM »
I have an icon as my home screen on my cellphone,

Another one interesting issue to discuss.

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« Reply #164 on: December 18, 2013, 09:15:57 AM »
I have an icon as my home screen on my cellphone,

Another one interesting issue to discuss.

Since you want a little help with your English and I've seen you make this mistake before.

But yes, putting icons all over the place in "electronic" format could be problematic.
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« Reply #165 on: December 18, 2013, 09:16:49 AM »
LOL. So earnest it's almost Evangelical.



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« Reply #166 on: December 18, 2013, 09:17:02 AM »
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #168 on: December 18, 2013, 09:47:56 AM »

It's a beautiful icon, and I have an icon as my home screen on my cellphone, however, as a cover....not so sure.

The icon would be banging against the table, your fingers would be pawing at it, you'd be sliding it in to your pocket, or stuffing it in your purse, along with loose change and receipts, you'd be dropping it, etc.

Besides, they cut off the top of His head, etc.

I don't think it's appropriate.

What about all the ancient coins of the Empire which had Icons on them? The same problems would apply to them as well.

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« Reply #169 on: December 18, 2013, 09:57:53 AM »
I am in a hurry ATM, but is this thread "crashing" for anyone else?

Not only am I getting database errors, I am getting specific files paths and some information about arachne's (who seems to be the first person on this page) account that is could be problematic.

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« Reply #170 on: December 18, 2013, 10:03:37 AM »
I am in a hurry ATM, but is this thread "crashing" for anyone else?

Not only am I getting database errors, I am getting specific files paths and some information about arachne's (who seems to be the first person on this page) account that is could be problematic.

If this reply goes through, could someone send this to the technical issues forum? Really, I am on the run, but wanted to mention this.

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« Reply #171 on: December 18, 2013, 10:15:59 AM »

Sheenj, I agree with what you said...although at the moment, I can't "quote" you.  ;)

I don't know about the coins, but, I know that today, cellphones are just thrown around, put in all manner of places, etc.

It's my own personal opinion...but, I think it disrespectful to pound Jesus in to the table as you throw your phone down.....or to be pressing on Him as your squeeze your phone and madly text someone.

It just seems to "casual" and disrespectful of an icon. After all, we consider icons to be windows to heaven.  That the individual depicted on the icon is truly there.  Well....there goes Jesus....as you leave your phone on the hood of your car and drive off.

I don't know.  It's just me.  I would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to all things holy.

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« Reply #172 on: December 18, 2013, 10:19:58 AM »
I don't know.  It's just me.  I would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to all things holy.

So what for you is the difference between that and having an icon as a wallpaper?
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #173 on: December 18, 2013, 10:45:56 AM »

Actually, it's my homescreen.

Well...it not on the back side of my phone, which gets the most abuse.

It also turns off before I place it in its case...and therefore, it's technically not really there.
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« Reply #174 on: December 18, 2013, 11:10:49 AM »

Actually, it's my homescreen.

Well...it not on the back side of my phone, which gets the most abuse.

It also turns off before I place it in its case...and therefore, it's technically not really there.

Was it destroyed in the proper manner then?
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« Reply #175 on: December 18, 2013, 11:31:29 AM »

Yes...it was extinguished in proper manner for a "cyber" icon.  ;)
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« Reply #176 on: December 18, 2013, 11:40:11 AM »
What you need is an app that fills the screen with flames right before it turns off.
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #177 on: December 18, 2013, 11:41:38 AM »

LOL!  I'm sure someone is working on it, already!
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #178 on: December 18, 2013, 11:47:17 AM »

Yes...it was extinguished in proper manner for a "cyber" icon.  ;)

Really, I think if you are going to take icons seriously, I don't understand how having them on your computer screen or phone makes any more sense than wearing them on a bracelet, t-shirt, etc.

And yes, everyone with your analogies I think the same about photos of anyone. It's ridiculous to me to see people who have their kid as their computer wallpaper or whatever. It's vulgar in my estimation.

Now posting an icon for didactic reasons like LBK might do makes sense in terms of economy, though its still a bit weird. Just like showing someone a photo of yourself before meeting them might make sense. 

Liza, don't think I am judging you or something, I can't imagine a person whose heart is more in the right place than yours, except for maybe Opus. I am speaking in generalities.
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Re: Schlock Orthoproducts
« Reply #179 on: December 18, 2013, 11:48:12 AM »
What you need is an app that fills the screen with flames right before it turns off.

Shiny just found a way to contribute to AFR.
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