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« on: December 01, 2013, 04:56:01 PM »

In the vein of the schlock icons thread, we shall herein discuss the merits of various products of Orthokitsch.

My first offering:

The "Acquire Peace" t-shirt



The second is much more ephemeral:

The Jesus Prayer App for Android.
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2013, 05:02:36 PM »

I suppose this thread will provide many inspirations for me.
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 05:03:07 PM »

This thread will meet a real need.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2013, 05:24:40 PM »

Doesn't take much searching to find loads of sacred objects attached to keychains.

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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2013, 05:33:02 PM »

One of my "favorites", the dreaded icon bracelet:



Ugh.  Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2013, 05:36:16 PM »

I use St. Benedict Medal as a keychain. Does it count?
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2013, 06:09:26 PM »


The Jesus Prayer App for Android.

This alone makes the thread worthwhile. 

I don't have any visual contributions, but the vomit inducing prelude music and introductory comments to most podcasts seem, at best, to fall into the schlock category.
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2013, 06:24:05 PM »

One of my "favorites", the dreaded icon bracelet:



Ugh.  Tongue

Come on, we all know you secretly long to have a bracelet of your favorite schlock icons. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2013, 06:26:42 PM »

I use St. Benedict Medal as a keychain. Does it count?

I've seen St Benedict and St Bridget medals on zip pullers on Etsy. I'd link if they were still there.
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2013, 06:29:16 PM »

One of my "favorites", the dreaded icon bracelet:



Ugh.  Tongue

Come on, we all know you secretly long to have a bracelet of your favorite schlock icons. Smiley

Only to get the satisfaction of burning it!  laugh laugh laugh
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2013, 11:32:50 AM »

I use St. Benedict Medal as a keychain. Does it count?

I've seen St Benedict and St Bridget medals on zip pullers on Etsy. I'd link if they were still there.

I had to google to see what is Etsy. I'm Glad that I haven't seen it around here. One international market chain selling ugly low quality products less to boycott.

My medal is from Medjugorje. Two of my RC friends made a pilgrimage there. I been considering whether I should ask my priest to bless it just in order to see his face. "St. Benedict Medal? What's that?"
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2013, 12:34:40 PM »

If you play it right, you can venerate and get a sip of coffee all in one fluid motion:

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 12:38:46 PM »

If you play it right, you can venerate and get a sip of coffee all in one fluid motion:



LOL @ your posts.

Jesus prayer app! Good grief. There is now an app for everything. Slide while counting . . .
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2013, 12:52:40 PM »

One of my "favorites", the dreaded icon bracelet:

Ugh.  Tongue

Ooops, I wear such thing for special occasions (I have two such bracelets and both are important for me as I've receive them from Serbia). But people rather like it, one of my Orthodox friends even said it's nice I wanted to take my friends with me.

In my opinion e.g icons-puzzles are one of Schlock Orthoproducts. Unfortunately, last year I got it as a birthday gift laugh (a canonical Serbian fresco presenting the Last Judgment)
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2013, 12:57:12 PM »

I'll have to find the Photoshop I did of putting St John of Shanghai on a tshirt. Looked good to me lol.
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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 01:28:34 PM »

I'll have to find the Photoshop I did of putting St John of Shanghai on a tshirt. Looked good to me lol.

Like this?

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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2013, 02:08:23 PM »

I'll have to find the Photoshop I did of putting St John of Shanghai on a tshirt. Looked good to me lol.

Like this?



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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2013, 02:16:19 PM »

Jesus prayer app! Good grief. There is now an app for everything. Slide while counting . . .

I wonder if, many centuries ago, people railed against prayer ropes.  "Why do you need a rope to pray? Why would you introduce such a material thing into the pure act of prayer with God? Is it that you wish to show off to others? Is prayer by itself not exciting enough for you? Are you so inattentive that you can't keep track of what you're doing without one? Are you so bent on following the latest fad? Truly I tell you, this is nothing more than a passing triviality, a way for people to bring worldly corruptions into their prayer life! We are called to silence, to quiet, not to introduce unnecessary reasons for movement and shifting thoughts while we pray, or put unnecessary physical barriers between ourselves and God!"
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« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2013, 02:25:39 PM »

But people rather like it, one of my Orthodox friends even said it's nice I wanted to take my friends with me.

I do that with paper icons as bookmarks. >_>
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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2013, 02:32:16 PM »

Jesus prayer app! Good grief. There is now an app for everything. Slide while counting . . .

I wonder if, many centuries ago, people railed against prayer ropes.  "Why do you need a rope to pray? Why would you introduce such a material thing into the pure act of prayer with God? Is it that you wish to show off to others? Is prayer by itself not exciting enough for you? Are you so inattentive that you can't keep track of what you're doing without one? Are you so bent on following the latest fad? Truly I tell you, this is nothing more than a passing triviality, a way for people to bring worldly corruptions into their prayer life! We are called to silence, to quiet, not to introduce unnecessary reasons for movement and shifting thoughts while we pray, or put unnecessary physical barriers between ourselves and God!"

Well, if I go to a monastery and they all have their Iphones out and using this app, I'm going to take out my Iphone and take a picture, because that would be a weird sight.
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2013, 02:37:18 PM »

Well, if I go to a monastery and they all have their Iphones out and using this app, I'm going to take out my Iphone and take a picture, because that would be a weird sight.

Give it a few generations. Then we'll talk. Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2013, 02:39:03 PM »

Well, if I go to a monastery and they all have their Iphones out and using this app, I'm going to take out my Iphone and take a picture, because that would be a weird sight.

Give it a few generations. Then we'll talk. Smiley

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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2013, 03:46:40 PM »

But people rather like it, one of my Orthodox friends even said it's nice I wanted to take my friends with me.

I do that with paper icons as bookmarks. >_>

I do that with religious books, but I'm not sure what a Saint would think about marking the spot in Blood Meridian. 
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2013, 04:35:34 PM »

Jesus prayer app! Good grief. There is now an app for everything. Slide while counting . . .

I wonder if, many centuries ago, people railed against prayer ropes.  "Why do you need a rope to pray? Why would you introduce such a material thing into the pure act of prayer with God? Is it that you wish to show off to others? Is prayer by itself not exciting enough for you? Are you so inattentive that you can't keep track of what you're doing without one? Are you so bent on following the latest fad? Truly I tell you, this is nothing more than a passing triviality, a way for people to bring worldly corruptions into their prayer life! We are called to silence, to quiet, not to introduce unnecessary reasons for movement and shifting thoughts while we pray, or put unnecessary physical barriers between ourselves and God!"

Ropes are goofy too.
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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2013, 04:40:07 PM »

Jesus prayer app! Good grief. There is now an app for everything. Slide while counting . . .

I wonder if, many centuries ago, people railed against prayer ropes.  "Why do you need a rope to pray? Why would you introduce such a material thing into the pure act of prayer with God? Is it that you wish to show off to others? Is prayer by itself not exciting enough for you? Are you so inattentive that you can't keep track of what you're doing without one? Are you so bent on following the latest fad? Truly I tell you, this is nothing more than a passing triviality, a way for people to bring worldly corruptions into their prayer life! We are called to silence, to quiet, not to introduce unnecessary reasons for movement and shifting thoughts while we pray, or put unnecessary physical barriers between ourselves and God!"

Ropes are goofy too.
Speaking of, I present you the survival chotki:



Or, as the product description calls it, the "professional and exprienced orthodox prayer rope wristband survival bracelet."
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« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2013, 04:43:39 PM »

Jesus prayer app! Good grief. There is now an app for everything. Slide while counting . . .

I wonder if, many centuries ago, people railed against prayer ropes.  "Why do you need a rope to pray? Why would you introduce such a material thing into the pure act of prayer with God? Is it that you wish to show off to others? Is prayer by itself not exciting enough for you? Are you so inattentive that you can't keep track of what you're doing without one? Are you so bent on following the latest fad? Truly I tell you, this is nothing more than a passing triviality, a way for people to bring worldly corruptions into their prayer life! We are called to silence, to quiet, not to introduce unnecessary reasons for movement and shifting thoughts while we pray, or put unnecessary physical barriers between ourselves and God!"

Ropes are goofy too.
Speaking of, I present you the survival chotki:



Or, as the product description calls it, the "professional and exprienced orthodox prayer rope wristband survival bracelet."

Awesome. I know * likes to level everything down to some ridiculous common denominator which he believes conditions the view he is taking a stance against.

That he is almost always wrong is beside the point. He is clever when he does it, but nevertheless usually inaccurate.
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Jesus prayer app! Good grief. There is now an app for everything. Slide while counting . . .

I wonder if, many centuries ago, people railed against prayer ropes.  "Why do you need a rope to pray? Why would you introduce such a material thing into the pure act of prayer with God? Is it that you wish to show off to others? Is prayer by itself not exciting enough for you? Are you so inattentive that you can't keep track of what you're doing without one? Are you so bent on following the latest fad? Truly I tell you, this is nothing more than a passing triviality, a way for people to bring worldly corruptions into their prayer life! We are called to silence, to quiet, not to introduce unnecessary reasons for movement and shifting thoughts while we pray, or put unnecessary physical barriers between ourselves and God!"

Somehow I doubt iphones are made with prayer and fasting by monks.
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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2013, 06:20:15 PM »

One of my "favorites", the dreaded icon bracelet:



Ugh.  Tongue

Come on, we all know you secretly long to have a bracelet of your favorite schlock icons. Smiley

Brilliant! Now I have to keep my fingers crossed for an OC.net Secret Santa, and then hope and pray I draw LBK.
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« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2013, 06:31:32 PM »

One of my "favorites", the dreaded icon bracelet:


Ugh.  Tongue

Come on, we all know you secretly long to have a bracelet of your favorite schlock icons. Smiley

Brilliant! Now I have to keep my fingers crossed for an OC.net Secret Santa, and then hope and pray I draw LBK.

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« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2013, 06:43:43 PM »

You wouldn't want a fine bracelet lovingly crafted by a friend?  Wink I already have a prototype photoshopped using some of your favorites!  Cool
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« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2013, 06:47:41 PM »

One of my "favorites", the dreaded icon bracelet:



Ugh.  Tongue

Come on, we all know you secretly long to have a bracelet of your favorite schlock icons. Smiley

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And thus was born the Great Schlockoclasty controversy of 2013, in which the Confessor LBK defended the right of schlockoclasm against the schlockodules.

In more recent times, some theologians have suggested the schlockodules were misunderstood by the schlockkoclasts, who — though both parties spoke English — no longer shared a common culture or language with the opposing party. Some have suggested a mistranslation resulted in accidental schlockodulism, while others suggested the entire thing was a joke.

Despite the current charitable ecumenical reading of history, the schism has remained in place since 2013, though members of both parties openly commune in each others’ churches.
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« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2013, 06:51:44 PM »

You wouldn't want a fine bracelet lovingly crafted by a friend?  Wink I already have a prototype photoshopped using some of your favorites!  Cool

Oooo, goody! Can I have a look? Pretty-please?  laugh
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« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2013, 06:53:01 PM »

One of my "favorites", the dreaded icon bracelet:



Ugh.  Tongue

Come on, we all know you secretly long to have a bracelet of your favorite schlock icons. Smiley

Brilliant! Now I have to keep my fingers crossed for an OC.net Secret Santa, and then hope and pray I draw LBK.
And thus was born the Great Schlockoclasty controversy of 2013, in which the Confessor LBK defended the right of schlockoclasm against the schlockodules.

In more recent times, some theologians have suggested the schlockodules were misunderstood by the schlockkoclasts, who — though both parties spoke English — no longer shared a common culture or language with the opposing party. Some have suggested a mistranslation resulted in accidental schlockodulism, while others suggested the entire thing was a joke.

Despite the current charitable ecumenical reading of history, the schism has remained in place since 2013, though members of both parties openly commune in each others’ churches.


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You wouldn't want a fine bracelet lovingly crafted by a friend?  Wink I already have a prototype photoshopped using some of your favorites!  Cool

Oooo, goody! Can I have a look? Pretty-please?  laugh

Well, okay... but it totally ruins the surprise:

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« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2013, 07:28:38 PM »

You wouldn't want a fine bracelet lovingly crafted by a friend?  Wink I already have a prototype photoshopped using some of your favorites!  Cool

Oooo, goody! Can I have a look? Pretty-please?  laugh

Well, okay... but it totally ruins the surprise:



You are lovely. 
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« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2013, 07:33:39 PM »

Well, okay... but it totally ruins the surprise:



I see no icons of Jesus doing resistance training, I think you're safe!
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« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2013, 07:41:59 PM »

There were so many options... She might have to get an entire jewelry set. Maybe featuring God the Father as earrings? I know she loves that. Wink
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Well, okay... but it totally ruins the surprise:



You are lovely. 

I can make you one if you'd like, Mor. I'm thinking Carmen Electra, Louis CK, merkins, maybe a cat...
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« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2013, 07:58:55 PM »

I can make you one if you'd like, Mor. I'm thinking Carmen Electra, Louis CK, merkins, maybe a cat...

If you can make one where the only image is of Louis CK wearing nothing but a merkin and holding a cat, I'd cope with the absence of Carmen Electra. 
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« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2013, 07:59:15 PM »

Jesus prayer app! Good grief. There is now an app for everything. Slide while counting . . .

I wonder if, many centuries ago, people railed against prayer ropes.  "Why do you need a rope to pray? Why would you introduce such a material thing into the pure act of prayer with God? Is it that you wish to show off to others? Is prayer by itself not exciting enough for you? Are you so inattentive that you can't keep track of what you're doing without one? Are you so bent on following the latest fad? Truly I tell you, this is nothing more than a passing triviality, a way for people to bring worldly corruptions into their prayer life! We are called to silence, to quiet, not to introduce unnecessary reasons for movement and shifting thoughts while we pray, or put unnecessary physical barriers between ourselves and God!"

Somehow I doubt iphones are made with prayer and fasting by monks.

When the "labor market" gets especially competitive, maybe they will. Sanctity will be required to remain sane under the conditions developing for global labor.
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« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2013, 08:01:29 PM »

I can make you one if you'd like, Mor. I'm thinking Carmen Electra, Louis CK, merkins, maybe a cat...

If you can make one where the only image is of Louis CK wearing nothing but a merkin and holding a cat, I'd cope with the absence of Carmen Electra. 

Is that a challenge?  Wink
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« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2013, 08:47:46 PM »

I can make you one if you'd like, Mor. I'm thinking Carmen Electra, Louis CK, merkins, maybe a cat...

If you can make one where the only image is of Louis CK wearing nothing but a merkin and holding a cat, I'd cope with the absence of Carmen Electra. 

Is that a challenge?  Wink

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« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2013, 10:41:25 PM »

You wouldn't want a fine bracelet lovingly crafted by a friend?  Wink I already have a prototype photoshopped using some of your favorites!  Cool

Oooo, goody! Can I have a look? Pretty-please?  laugh

Well, okay... but it totally ruins the surprise:



You are lovely.  

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« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2013, 10:42:00 PM »

Jesus prayer app! Good grief. There is now an app for everything. Slide while counting . . .

I wonder if, many centuries ago, people railed against prayer ropes.  "Why do you need a rope to pray? Why would you introduce such a material thing into the pure act of prayer with God? Is it that you wish to show off to others? Is prayer by itself not exciting enough for you? Are you so inattentive that you can't keep track of what you're doing without one? Are you so bent on following the latest fad? Truly I tell you, this is nothing more than a passing triviality, a way for people to bring worldly corruptions into their prayer life! We are called to silence, to quiet, not to introduce unnecessary reasons for movement and shifting thoughts while we pray, or put unnecessary physical barriers between ourselves and God!"

Somehow I doubt iphones are made with prayer and fasting by monks.

This just in: Apple hires Ethiopian monks to make iPhones. "We're really excited about this new arrangement," said Apple CEO Timothy Cook. "We used to get bad press using Chinese slave labor to make our products--and we still had to pay them. Now, we get monks to make iPhones with prayer and fasting, and we don't have to pay them anything. They get work to do while practicing ascesis and we get cheap phones to sell for outrageous profits. Everybody wins."
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« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2013, 10:43:04 PM »

I can make you one if you'd like, Mor. I'm thinking Carmen Electra, Louis CK, merkins, maybe a cat...

If you can make one where the only image is of Louis CK wearing nothing but a merkin and holding a cat, I'd cope with the absence of Carmen Electra. 

Is that a challenge?  Wink

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« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2013, 10:44:15 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2013, 10:45:57 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2013, 10:46:48 PM »

One more for tonight:

Christ blessing nightlight

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« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2013, 11:24:30 PM »

I can make you one if you'd like, Mor. I'm thinking Carmen Electra, Louis CK, merkins, maybe a cat...

If you can make one where the only image is of Louis CK wearing nothing but a merkin and holding a cat, I'd cope with the absence of Carmen Electra. 

Is that a challenge?  Wink

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This. I. Gotta. See.  Shocked laugh

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« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2013, 11:34:46 PM »

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No fair, not Ortho-schlock, they are just ordinary "plain old schlock." Those are from the Old World Christmas, Flags of the World Ornament series.  Wink
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« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2013, 11:38:15 PM »

I can make you one if you'd like, Mor. I'm thinking Carmen Electra, Louis CK, merkins, maybe a cat...

If you can make one where the only image is of Louis CK wearing nothing but a merkin and holding a cat, I'd cope with the absence of Carmen Electra. 

Is that a challenge?  Wink

Surprise me.  Wink

This. I. Gotta. See.  Shocked laugh

I'm afraid posting it will get me a dot. Cheesy

You could email it to me. I'll make sure Mor gets to see it.  Wink
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« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2013, 11:39:30 PM »

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No fair, not Ortho-schlock, they are just ordinary "plain old schlock." Those are from the Old World Christmas, Flags of the World Ornament series.  Wink
I debated it, but they were the only two flag ornaments offered on an otherwise "Orthodox" merchant's site full of such gems as icon Christmas tree balls. When marketing is taken into consideration, it's like buying an American flag at a Bible store.
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« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2013, 11:40:04 PM »

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No fair, not Ortho-schlock, they are just ordinary "plain old schlock." Those are from the Old World Christmas, Flags of the World Ornament series.  Wink

A good and proper observation, my friend. Thank you for wishing to maintain proper Orthoschlockopraxy.
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You could email it to me. I'll make sure Mor gets to see it.  Wink

Don't say I didn't warn ya.  Grin
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You could email it to me. I'll make sure Mor gets to see it.  Wink

Don't say I didn't warn ya.  Grin

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eww Russian Federation flag! That is not holy! how schlock!
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eww Russian Federation flag! That is not holy! how schlock!

Maybe they don't have the brown, white and black Tsarist flag in their range.  Wink
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Does this belong here?

Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I'm bidding on that one...  Smiley
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Does this belong here?



It's almost too cute to be schlock.  laugh
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It's almost too cute to be schlock.  laugh

Oh? Then how about these:



And there's this nice little Gospel pendant:

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I about choked.

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« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2013, 07:23:39 AM »

It's almost too cute to be schlock.  laugh

Oh? Then how about these:




They're folk art, like Russian matrioshka (nesting) dolls. They're kitsch, but cute and sweet.  Smiley The Russian nun is quite amusing - white veil and a lovely floral design on her black habit. Very authentic.  Shocked  Winklaugh

OTOH, the Christ mosaic top in the post above is abominable and sacrilegious. There was a thread here a while back on some designer fashion label producing stuff like this.  Angry Angry Angry
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« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2013, 09:34:00 PM »

I about choked.



Yup, I'd say that takes the gold medal for Orthoschlock.
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I about choked.



Yup, I'd say that takes the gold medal for Orthoschlock.

I won't disagree. There couldn't possibly be anything out there worse than this, could there? Could there??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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There couldn't possibly be anything out there worse than this, could there? Could there??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2013, 11:00:17 PM »

There couldn't possibly be anything out there worse than this, could there? Could there??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Tread carefully, LBK. 

Remember, I'm much older and uglier than you.  laugh

Critiquing and writing about schlock icons over the years has built up quite a bit of resilience in yours truly.  Wink
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« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2013, 11:18:05 PM »

I about choked.



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Tread carefully, LBK. 

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Doth my eye deceive me, or is that sequined?

It looks printed to me, but the original mosaic is in the great cathedral of Aghia Sophia:



Gold would have been used in the original mosaic.
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Doth my eye deceive me, or is that sequined?

It looks printed to me, but the original mosaic is in the great cathedral of Aghia Sophia:



Gold would have been used in the original mosaic.

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« Reply #76 on: December 03, 2013, 11:44:04 PM »

Upon zooming in I believe you're correct, LBK. Looks just printed. I think sequins would have taken it to a whole new level of fail, though.
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« Reply #77 on: December 03, 2013, 11:45:46 PM »

The Pilgrim continues on his way, this time with the Jesus Prayer not in his heart but on his hoodie:



And if he gets thirsty after achieving theosis through branding, he can always take a drink from this, which no doubt hangs around his neck next to his baptismal cross:



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« Reply #78 on: December 03, 2013, 11:52:10 PM »

Upon zooming in I believe you're correct, LBK. Looks just printed. I think sequins would have taken it to a whole new level of fail, though.

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« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2013, 12:12:24 AM »

From the Schlock Icons thread:

Nothing wrong with the icons themselves, but trust the Serbs to put them on liquor bottles, often with a prayer to the saint on the reverse: Shocked Shocked





Just in case some folks think the bottle is intended for holy water, here's the packaging:



And some copper-clad versions:




I suppose having the prayer on hand after getting ironed out on slivovits makes a bit of sense ...  Tongue


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You are always quite clever but you are on a real roll here. I nearly lost a lung on the first sentence.

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« Reply #81 on: December 04, 2013, 08:56:31 AM »

St. Nicholas can't catch a break it seems - in the  west or the east!

Recipes: http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/beverages/

Winery on Cyprus: http://www.wine-searcher.com/wine-161978-0001-etko-winery-st-nicholas-commandaria-cyprus

Winery in Germany: http://www.saintnicholaswines.com/
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« Reply #82 on: December 04, 2013, 09:11:15 AM »

St. Nicholas can't catch a break it seems - in the  west or the east!

Recipes: http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/beverages/

Winery on Cyprus: http://www.wine-searcher.com/wine-161978-0001-etko-winery-st-nicholas-commandaria-cyprus

Winery in Germany: http://www.saintnicholaswines.com/

Are you surprised? St Nicholas is, after all, a kind of "patron saint of everything".  laugh And, just to clarify, I wouldn't regard these things as schlocky at all.  Wink

On recipes: The Greeks have Fanouropita (baked in honor of St Phanourios of Rhodes), and Vasilopita (in honor of St Basil the Great, and shared on New Year's Eve or New Year's Day)

On Commandaria: This wine is commonly used by churches as communion wine. Other brands include St John (the Evangelist).

On wineries: Naming wines after saints is a centuries-old European tradition, in both east and west, and one which continues in the New World. Aghiorghitiko is a grape variety named after St George.
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« Reply #83 on: December 04, 2013, 09:12:53 AM »

St. Nicholas wine is good and IIRC there was no image of St. Nicholas on the label.  Drink away!
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An icon of Christ topped with "In the name of Christ the Savior" as a wine label?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #86 on: December 04, 2013, 09:29:58 AM »

An icon of Christ topped with "In the name of Christ the Savior" as a wine label?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

IIRC that's communion wine - we used that brand in church some years back.

That's not meant to be an excuse for the icons on their label...
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« Reply #87 on: December 04, 2013, 09:43:29 AM »

IIRC that's communion wine - we used that brand in church some years back.

That wine can be bought in every second store.
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IIRC that's communion wine - we used that brand in church some years back.

That wine can be bought in every second store.

Well, it was rare in Romania. And it's got holy writ and icons all over it. I think the guy who brought in a dozen bottles did it in good faith.

We only used it a couple of times though, because Father thought it too strong for children.
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It's not that bad, cheap, and strong but a bit too sweet to my taste.
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« Reply #90 on: December 04, 2013, 09:57:26 AM »

It's not that bad, cheap, and strong but a bit too sweet to my taste.

Isn't communion wine supposed to be sweet?

OTOH I remember a Catholic priest saying the opposite, but it might have been his own preference (since he alone partakes of the chalice). Or maybe he just meant it should have no added sugar.
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« Reply #91 on: December 04, 2013, 09:58:14 AM »

It's not that bad, cheap, and strong but a bit too sweet to my taste.

Isn't communion wine supposed to be sweat?

I mean, for recreational usage.
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« Reply #92 on: December 04, 2013, 10:36:27 AM »

It's not that bad, cheap, and strong but a bit too sweet to my taste.

Isn't communion wine supposed to be sweet?

OTOH I remember a Catholic priest saying the opposite, but it might have been his own preference (since he alone partakes of the chalice). Or maybe he just meant it should have no added sugar.

All I know is that it is all Kosher and fortified from what I have seen. Manny for every man!
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« Reply #93 on: December 04, 2013, 10:42:31 AM »

All I know is that it is all Kosher and fortified from what I have seen. Manny for every man!

Is this an acceptable wine for the Eucharist?  It's certainly the most common in my experience.
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 And the newly released, currently discussed on another thread:  St. Theophan Beer.

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I about choked.



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« Reply #99 on: December 04, 2013, 10:27:12 PM »

From the Schlock Icons thread:

Nothing wrong with the icons themselves, but trust the Serbs to put them on liquor bottles, often with a prayer to the saint on the reverse: Shocked Shocked





Just in case some folks think the bottle is intended for holy water, here's the packaging:



And some copper-clad versions:




I suppose having the prayer on hand after getting ironed out on slivovits makes a bit of sense ...  Tongue




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« Reply #100 on: December 04, 2013, 10:29:05 PM »

An icon of Christ topped with "In the name of Christ the Savior" as a wine label?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

IIRC that's communion wine - we used that brand in church some years back.

That's not meant to be an excuse for the icons on their label...

As long as you soak the labels off, dry them, and decoupage them to little boards to hang in your icon corner (or wall, or room, or backyard cathedral) you're fine.
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IIRC that's communion wine - we used that brand in church some years back.

That wine can be bought in every second store.

You should export it to America. I'll take two cases.
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All I know is that it is all Kosher and fortified from what I have seen. Manny for every man!

Is this an acceptable wine for the Eucharist?  It's certainly the most common in my experience.

Blech! God save us from such wine.
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Also available with the Bridegroom icon.


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Welp, it didn't take long for the crown to be removed...
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There couldn't possibly be anything out there worse than this, could there? Could there??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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« Reply #106 on: December 04, 2013, 10:46:06 PM »

For when you can't be a monk but want to play like you've got a cassock in the kitchen, the Death to the World apron.

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There couldn't possibly be anything out there worse than this, could there? Could there??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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You beat me to it. Prophecy fulfilled.  Tongue Shocked Shocked Shocked Made even schlockier by the inclusion of the Jesus Prayer.  Angry Angry Angry

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For when you can't be a monk but want to play like you've got a cassock in the kitchen, the Death to the World apron.


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I gotta cop that apron for my Lenten BBQs
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I'm glad that it's made in the USA.  I can buy a box and give it to all my girlfriends for Christmas.
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Also available with the Bridegroom icon.

I'm glad that it's made in the USA.  I can buy a box and give it to all my girlfriends for Christmas.

I wanted to make not decent joke but in the final moment I changed my mind.
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Thank you for changing your mind.

That image is totally unacceptable...and I'm amazed some of you are actually joking about it, instead of finding it offensive.

smh
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Don't mean to be rude, but about 90% of Orthodoxy is a schlock product to me. The other 10% is gold and rare. The real challenge would be a thread about absolutely authentic products.
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Please explain what you just said.

90% of ORTHODOXY is schlock to you?

...and you claim to be Orthodox?

Sheesh!
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Please explain what you just said.

90% of ORTHODOXY is schlock to you?

...and you claim to be Orthodox?

Sheesh!


I don't claim any Orthodoxy is schlock, but what is done/made in the name of it. Let's see that thread about really authentic stuff; you'll see how we all get stuck.
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Don't mean to be rude, but about 90% of Orthodoxy is a schlock product to me. The other 10% is gold and rare. The real challenge would be a thread about absolutely authentic products.

Ioan,

Not to change the subject from the thread, but your picture- wow.



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Please explain what you just said.

90% of ORTHODOXY is schlock to you?

...and you claim to be Orthodox?

Sheesh!


I don't claim any Orthodoxy is schlock, but what is done/made in the name of it. Let's see that thread about really authentic stuff; you'll see how we all get stuck.

You ought to reword your statement then.

It's not Orthodoxy that is schlock, but, people's interpretation and actions which are.
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Please explain what you just said.

90% of ORTHODOXY is schlock to you?

...and you claim to be Orthodox?

Sheesh!


I don't claim any Orthodoxy is schlock, but what is done/made in the name of it. Let's see that thread about really authentic stuff; you'll see how we all get stuck.

You ought to reword your statement then.

It's not Orthodoxy that is schlock, but, people's interpretation and actions which are.


Sure, can reword it, but it's also how you read it.
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Thank you for changing your mind.

That image is totally unacceptable...and I'm amazed some of you are actually joking about it, instead of finding it offensive.

smh

It is an image of an actual product.  In and of itself it cannot offend.  More offensive would be those Orthodox Christians who buy such things and support the person who makes it.
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No...the image is offensive in that there is no other use for the product being depicted other than sticking it on your private parts.

If I posted an image of a private part....would that not be offensive because it's just an image of it, and not really it?

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No...the image is offensive in that there is no other use for the product being depicted other than sticking it on your private parts.

If I posted an image of a private part....would that not be offensive because it's just an image of it, and not really it?



No, this is an article of clothing.  With an icon of it.  There shouldn't be an icon on any underwear or daily clothing.  Or beer/liquor bottles.  Pick a non-liturgical product and an icon should probably not be there.  Posting a picture of genitals, OTOH, are against the rules.  Context would be important, e.g. a still from a porn film versus a picture from an anatomy and physiology textbook.
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I envy him. I wish animals were that close to me, but I think they generally want to kill me for food. Smiley

Don't mean to be rude, but about 90% of Orthodoxy is a schlock product to me. The other 10% is gold and rare. The real challenge would be a thread about absolutely authentic products.

Ioan,

Not to change the subject from the thread, but your picture- wow.



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You can hang it in a church so people can know what time it is even when the liturgy steps outside time.



Not sure why the icon is upside down.
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Because nothing teaches a child icons are sacred like letting them scribble on a picture of St. Mary of Egypt’s face.
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You can hang it in a church so people can know what time it is even when the liturgy steps outside time.



Not sure why the icon is upside down.

LOL!

This is all solid material. How of this stuff are you shopping up yourself?

Best thread in a while. Wow.
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You can hang it in a church so people can know what time it is even when the liturgy steps outside time.



Not sure why the icon is upside down.

LOL!

This is all solid material. How of this stuff are you shopping up yourself?

Best thread in a while. Wow.
This is 100 percent curated from the Internet by searching phrases like "cool Greek Orthodox gear" and "unique Orthodox presents." I promise that if I have posted it here, it can be purchased.

I actually ran across some more thongs today with "IC XC NIKA" on them. I can really only pray it's someone intending to blaspheme, because otherwise  Orthodox people are even more accidentally iconoclastic than I originally believed.

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Because nothing teaches a child icons are sacred like letting them scribble on a picture of St. Mary of Egypt’s face.


I see nothing wrong with that icon.
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LOL!

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We just need an Orthodoxy or Death fanny pack

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« Reply #132 on: December 07, 2013, 12:54:51 AM »


Thank you for changing your mind.

That image is totally unacceptable...and I'm amazed some of you are actually joking about it, instead of finding it offensive.

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Maybe we joke about it BECAUSE we find it offensive.
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« Reply #133 on: December 07, 2013, 12:57:13 AM »


No...the image is offensive in that there is no other use for the product being depicted other than sticking it on your private parts.


No other use? Really? Not even as fuel for the fire in which to burn whoever thought it up?
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I actually ran across some more thongs today with "IC XC NIKA" on them. I can really only pray it's someone intending to blaspheme, because otherwise  Orthodox people are even more accidentally iconoclastic than I originally believed.


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« Reply #135 on: December 07, 2013, 09:38:33 AM »

The way Cafe Press works, once you have created your own design on something, it stays on the database and can be used by anyone else for anything (that's why they're real nitpickers about non-copyrighted images). Someone could have designed a notebook with that icon, and it snowballed from there. Pure ignorance, not necessarily malicious.

As for the icon colouring pages, I see nothing wrong with them. They're standard Sunday school teaching material. Let the kids become familiar with them, learn to recognise the people depicted, and worry about proper painting techniques (much) later.
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I actually ran across some more thongs today with "IC XC NIKA" on them. I can really only pray it's someone intending to blaspheme, because otherwise  Orthodox people are even more accidentally iconoclastic than I originally believed.


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"It can be a great evangelizing tool," said the creator of icon underwear. "Some young people find it difficult to talk to their parents about their interest in Orthodoxy. This underwear provides opportunities for conversation."
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« Reply #137 on: December 08, 2013, 11:06:49 AM »

I won't beat Agabus, but some things made in Serbia:

T-shirt "Orthodox nations"

T-shirt "Serb forever" (the slogan is OK, but what about just a half of the Cross???)

And my favourite, seen by me in reality (but it was a woolen version):

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« Reply #138 on: December 11, 2013, 12:36:48 AM »

The way Cafe Press works, once you have created your own design on something, it stays on the database and can be used by anyone else for anything (that's why they're real nitpickers about non-copyrighted images). Someone could have designed a notebook with that icon, and it snowballed from there. Pure ignorance, not necessarily malicious.
I was hoping nobody would spoil it...
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« Reply #139 on: December 11, 2013, 11:38:03 AM »

The way Cafe Press works, once you have created your own design on something, it stays on the database and can be used by anyone else for anything (that's why they're real nitpickers about non-copyrighted images). Someone could have designed a notebook with that icon, and it snowballed from there. Pure ignorance, not necessarily malicious.
I was hoping nobody would spoil it...

So you're saying that someone didn't necessarily want a sexy thong with an icon of Christ?
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« Reply #140 on: December 11, 2013, 02:43:05 PM »

The way Cafe Press works, once you have created your own design on something, it stays on the database and can be used by anyone else for anything (that's why they're real nitpickers about non-copyrighted images). Someone could have designed a notebook with that icon, and it snowballed from there. Pure ignorance, not necessarily malicious.
I was hoping nobody would spoil it...

So you're saying that someone didn't necessarily want a sexy thong with an icon of Christ?
Nonsense, of course someone wanted it.  Otherwise, I would not have purchased 6 pairs.
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« Reply #141 on: December 11, 2013, 02:56:16 PM »

The way Cafe Press works, once you have created your own design on something, it stays on the database and can be used by anyone else for anything (that's why they're real nitpickers about non-copyrighted images). Someone could have designed a notebook with that icon, and it snowballed from there. Pure ignorance, not necessarily malicious.
I was hoping nobody would spoil it...

So you're saying that someone didn't necessarily want a sexy thong with an icon of Christ?
Nonsense, of course someone wanted it.  Otherwise, I would not have purchased 6 pairs.

Oh, you got the "multiple girlfriends discount" too?  And by 6 pairs, do you mean 6 thongs for 12 cheeks Wink or 12 thongs?
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« Reply #142 on: December 11, 2013, 08:41:02 PM »

Be sure to not miss the opportunity to pick up a pair of Christ the Teacher leggings, to round out your wife, daughter, or girlfriend's wardrobe.

http://www.zazzle.com/christ_the_teacher_legging-256133942985918003

I'd post the photo but I got that annoying message about the upload folder being full - which is always the case whenever I try to post a photo - grrr!

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« Reply #144 on: December 12, 2013, 01:54:23 PM »

I won't beat Agabus, but some things made in Serbia:

T-shirt "Orthodox nations"

T-shirt "Serb forever" (the slogan is OK, but what about just a half of the Cross???)

And my favourite, seen by me in reality (but it was a woolen version):



How come it is possible that all Netodox Serbians are this Patriotic? Is "irony" heretical Western innovation or something?
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How come it is possible that all Netodox Serbians are this Patriotic? Is "irony" heretical Western innovation or something?

I know someone IRL who wears a red, yellow and blue one (Romanian national colours). He's also one of the most honest, down-to-earth and kind-hearted people I know. He just prefers colourful to black stuff, I guess.  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #146 on: December 12, 2013, 02:45:06 PM »

So you're saying that someone didn't necessarily want a sexy thong with an icon of Christ?

I have it on good authority that it's going to be marketed as a chastity device. Because we don't do chastity belts in the 21st century. Butt floss is more 'It'. Tongue
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« Reply #147 on: December 12, 2013, 02:49:37 PM »

LOL. So earnest it's almost Evangelical.

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LOL. So earnest it's almost Evangelical.



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« Reply #149 on: December 12, 2013, 05:02:37 PM »

I know someone IRL who wears a red, yellow and blue one (Romanian national colours). He's also one of the most honest, down-to-earth and kind-hearted people I know. He just prefers colourful to black stuff, I guess.  Lips Sealed

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Have not decited yet schlock or not:

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I saw one of those at TJs. The young lad wearing it said that they are quite popular and he had no idea that it came from the Orthodox tradition. He just thought it was cool because a lot of Armenians here like to wear them.
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« Reply #154 on: December 17, 2013, 10:25:52 PM »

Found it at Target the other day, but this is the only picture I can find of it online. It's a 1,000-piece puzzle of Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood, St. Petersburg. I didn't really think it was schlock, but thought I'd share it here either way.

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Have not decited yet schlock or not:



Orthodox or not, you really can't beat a traditional, three dimensional Nativity scene.  I've seen two dimension examples like that above, and it just doesn't work.  I'd rather they use a huge but conventional icon if they have to use an icon.  But still, Nativity scenes are one thing for which I encourage good statuary.   
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I saw one of those at TJs. The young lad wearing it said that they are quite popular and he had no idea that it came from the Orthodox tradition. He just thought it was cool because a lot of Armenians here like to wear them.

The markings in these clothes only resemble those of Orthodox monastic garments. What is actually written is either gibberish, or modern song lyrics. Be that as it may, the appropriation, even in butchered form, of monastic insignia by fashion designers is disgusting.
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Oyyyy!!!!  Tongue Tongue Angry
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I saw one of those at TJs. The young lad wearing it said that they are quite popular and he had no idea that it came from the Orthodox tradition. He just thought it was cool because a lot of Armenians here like to wear them.

I've never seen it.  Thank goodness.
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More "oyyy" factor: The passage in the Gospel book Christ is holding is from Mark 8 :34:

“Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me."


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« Reply #161 on: December 18, 2013, 07:28:50 AM »




You can venerate the icon before you do a selfie.
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« Reply #162 on: December 18, 2013, 08:26:46 AM »


It's a beautiful icon, and I have an icon as my home screen on my cellphone, however, as a cover....not so sure.

The icon would be banging against the table, your fingers would be pawing at it, you'd be sliding it in to your pocket, or stuffing it in your purse, along with loose change and receipts, you'd be dropping it, etc.

Besides, they cut off the top of His head, etc.

I don't think it's appropriate.
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« Reply #163 on: December 18, 2013, 08:46:03 AM »

I have an icon as my home screen on my cellphone,

Another one interesting issue to discuss.
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I have an icon as my home screen on my cellphone,

Another one interesting issue to discuss.

Since you want a little help with your English and I've seen you make this mistake before.

But yes, putting icons all over the place in "electronic" format could be problematic.
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LOL. So earnest it's almost Evangelical.



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Yeah, what isn't gay there?
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It's a beautiful icon, and I have an icon as my home screen on my cellphone, however, as a cover....not so sure.

The icon would be banging against the table, your fingers would be pawing at it, you'd be sliding it in to your pocket, or stuffing it in your purse, along with loose change and receipts, you'd be dropping it, etc.

Besides, they cut off the top of His head, etc.

I don't think it's appropriate.

What about all the ancient coins of the Empire which had Icons on them? The same problems would apply to them as well.
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I am in a hurry ATM, but is this thread "crashing" for anyone else?

Not only am I getting database errors, I am getting specific files paths and some information about arachne's (who seems to be the first person on this page) account that is could be problematic.

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Mike started one:
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« Reply #171 on: December 18, 2013, 10:15:59 AM »


Sheenj, I agree with what you said...although at the moment, I can't "quote" you.  Wink

I don't know about the coins, but, I know that today, cellphones are just thrown around, put in all manner of places, etc.

It's my own personal opinion...but, I think it disrespectful to pound Jesus in to the table as you throw your phone down.....or to be pressing on Him as your squeeze your phone and madly text someone.

It just seems to "casual" and disrespectful of an icon. After all, we consider icons to be windows to heaven.  That the individual depicted on the icon is truly there.  Well....there goes Jesus....as you leave your phone on the hood of your car and drive off.

I don't know.  It's just me.  I would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to all things holy.

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I don't know.  It's just me.  I would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to all things holy.

So what for you is the difference between that and having an icon as a wallpaper?
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« Reply #173 on: December 18, 2013, 10:45:56 AM »


Actually, it's my homescreen.

Well...it not on the back side of my phone, which gets the most abuse.

It also turns off before I place it in its case...and therefore, it's technically not really there.
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Actually, it's my homescreen.

Well...it not on the back side of my phone, which gets the most abuse.

It also turns off before I place it in its case...and therefore, it's technically not really there.

Was it destroyed in the proper manner then?
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Yes...it was extinguished in proper manner for a "cyber" icon.  Wink
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What you need is an app that fills the screen with flames right before it turns off.
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LOL!  I'm sure someone is working on it, already!
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Yes...it was extinguished in proper manner for a "cyber" icon.  Wink

Really, I think if you are going to take icons seriously, I don't understand how having them on your computer screen or phone makes any more sense than wearing them on a bracelet, t-shirt, etc.

And yes, everyone with your analogies I think the same about photos of anyone. It's ridiculous to me to see people who have their kid as their computer wallpaper or whatever. It's vulgar in my estimation.

Now posting an icon for didactic reasons like LBK might do makes sense in terms of economy, though its still a bit weird. Just like showing someone a photo of yourself before meeting them might make sense. 

Liza, don't think I am judging you or something, I can't imagine a person whose heart is more in the right place than yours, except for maybe Opus. I am speaking in generalities.
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What you need is an app that fills the screen with flames right before it turns off.

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Yes...it was extinguished in proper manner for a "cyber" icon.  Wink

Really, I think if you are going to take icons seriously, I don't understand how having them on your computer screen or phone makes any more sense than wearing them on a bracelet, t-shirt, etc.

And yes, everyone with your analogies I think the same about photos of anyone. It's ridiculous to me to see people who have their kid as their computer wallpaper or whatever. It's vulgar in my estimation.

Now posting an icon for didactic reasons like LBK might do makes sense in terms of economy, though its still a bit weird. Just like showing someone a photo of yourself before meeting them might make sense. 

Liza, don't think I am judging you or something, I can't imagine a person whose heart is more in the right place than yours, except for maybe Opus. I am speaking in generalities.

I totally understand where you are coming from, Orthonorm....and respect your opinion, as it is truly valid.

However, what I have on my phone isn't really an "icon" per se.  I wish I could add it as an attachment....but, the Forum drive is full...and no attachment can be added.

What I have is a photo that I took of my church during Vespers...it does have an icon in it, but, it's not solely the icon.


My computer desktop also has an image from my church.  As it's nearing Nativity, I have an image from last year's Nativity.  Why, you ask.

Well....instead of putting up a Santa Claus or poinsettia or something....I find that the image helps put me in the Christmas spirit.

It also serves as a starting point for numerous conversations with coworkers who notice the desktop and comment on it....opening the door for added conversation.   Just like hanging an Orthodox calendar would.

Just yesterday, I was in my boss's office.  It was my year end review.  It went faster than expected and with 15 minutes to spare, he asked me if I had any plans for the holidays.  He knows I am Orthodox, but, I don't think he knows much about Orthodoxy.  I reminded him that I don't celebrate until January 7th...which led to the whole "why the difference in dates" conversation, Julian versus Gregorian calendars, date of Easter/Pascha...and differences between RC and Orthodox.

While I hesitated in going in to too much of the differences between the Churches I did give a few....it sparked his interest and he said he would have to do some reading on the subject.

So, you never know.  We shouldn't hide our "Light" under a bushel, but, advertise it from the highest mountain top....however, in doing so, we should never forget the true value of that Light, it's source, and the respect that it is due.
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« Reply #181 on: December 18, 2013, 12:16:30 PM »

I found it on my Facebook.

This is the image I have the home-screen of my phone.  It's centered and the top and bottom are all black.


..and this is my computer desktop.


...and since I use two monitors at work...the one most visible to others will often not have anything but this image displayed on it.
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« Reply #182 on: December 23, 2013, 05:56:26 PM »

Again, Serbia.
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« Reply #183 on: December 23, 2013, 05:58:13 PM »

Still not as cool as incense from Carrefour.
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« Reply #184 on: December 23, 2013, 07:34:40 PM »

For our Coptic friends:



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Again, Serbia.
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« Reply #186 on: December 23, 2013, 07:37:56 PM »

And now the Chalcedonian version, from Holy Russia:



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« Reply #187 on: December 24, 2013, 12:11:48 AM »

And now the Chalcedonian version, from Holy Russia:





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« Reply #188 on: January 09, 2014, 01:41:37 PM »

A pretty decent commentary on how people treat holy things, actually:

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« Reply #189 on: January 09, 2014, 01:44:24 PM »

Doesn't the Stalin calendar take the prize and end the thread? http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-stalin-calendar/25224022.html

How much worse could you get?
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« Reply #190 on: January 09, 2014, 02:59:32 PM »

Doesn't the Stalin calendar take the prize and end the thread? http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-stalin-calendar/25224022.html

How much worse could you get?
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Doesn't the Stalin calendar take the prize and end the thread? http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-stalin-calendar/25224022.html

How much worse could you get?

Never ask that question.
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Doesn't the Stalin calendar take the prize and end the thread? http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-stalin-calendar/25224022.html

How much worse could you get?
If we're going the calendar route, there's always the gay priest calendar. (NOTE: No actual exposure in the link, but one censored NSFW pic contained in the story.)

That one has no connection to the real Church though, the Stalin calendar does.
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« Reply #193 on: January 09, 2014, 03:54:30 PM »

Doesn't the Stalin calendar take the prize and end the thread? http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-stalin-calendar/25224022.html

How much worse could you get?

Never ask that question.

H.L. Mencken's pithy observation that one would never go broke by underestimating the taste of the American public is probably equally apropos to many of the Orthodox faithful, so I suppose you are correct.   Wink
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« Reply #194 on: January 09, 2014, 05:00:24 PM »

Have not decited yet schlock or not:



I think this would be a great gift for my mother. She has this old magnetic nativity scene where in the Magi and some shepherds are on this track. Each figure moves around the track and when they pass in front of the Holy Family they make a little turn. It was nice when she bought the thing, but now it is falling apart.

::Edit:: yes I realize this thing is huge, but if you knew my mother you would know that this fits nicely with her plethora of religious imagery.
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« Reply #195 on: January 12, 2014, 10:26:48 PM »

I think this would be a great gift for my mother. She has this old magnetic nativity scene where in the Magi and some shepherds are on this track. Each figure moves around the track and when they pass in front of the Holy Family they make a little turn.

dcommini,

I'd love to see a photo of that set. Any chance?

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« Reply #196 on: January 12, 2014, 11:47:39 PM »

Have not decited yet schlock or not:



I think this would be a great gift for my mother. She has this old magnetic nativity scene where in the Magi and some shepherds are on this track. Each figure moves around the track and when they pass in front of the Holy Family they make a little turn. It was nice when she bought the thing, but now it is falling apart.

::Edit:: yes I realize this thing is huge, but if you knew my mother you would know that this fits nicely with her plethora of religious imagery.

Heh. I had almost completely forgotten about that set. She still has it? I don't recall seeing it out Christmas of 2003, which I believe is the last time I was actually at her house for Christmas (note to others: This does not mean I haven't visited my mom for Christmas since 2003- she has a tendency to travel during Christmas, the odds of actually being at her house during a Christmas vacation are about 20-1; we're more likely to catch her at our grandparents or her in-laws or stepchildrens' or our houses. As a child I often wondered why we bothered decorating for Christmas at all as I can count the number of times we celebrated Christmas at the house on one hand.  laugh ).
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« Reply #197 on: January 14, 2014, 11:31:25 AM »

I think this would be a great gift for my mother. She has this old magnetic nativity scene where in the Magi and some shepherds are on this track. Each figure moves around the track and when they pass in front of the Holy Family they make a little turn.

dcommini,

I'd love to see a photo of that set. Any chance?

Many years,

Neil

If it hasn't completely fallen apart yet then I will take a picture and upload it when I go up to Indiana in a few days.



Heh. I had almost completely forgotten about that set. She still has it? I don't recall seeing it out Christmas of 2003, which I believe is the last time I was actually at her house for Christmas (note to others: This does not mean I haven't visited my mom for Christmas since 2003- she has a tendency to travel during Christmas, the odds of actually being at her house during a Christmas vacation are about 20-1; we're more likely to catch her at our grandparents or her in-laws or stepchildrens' or our houses. As a child I often wondered why we bothered decorating for Christmas at all as I can count the number of times we celebrated Christmas at the house on one hand.  laugh ).

Yes, she still has that set (or at least she did a few months ago). She usually leaves it out year round now, hence the reason it is falling apart. Have you really not been to any of her houses (for Christmas) since 2003? I'm pretty sure she had the thing out when we lived in Columbia, it fits so nicely with all the other religious paraphernalia that it may just blend in so nicely and be hard to notice unless you're looking for it.
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I've just found it. Russians...

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It's almost too cute to be schlock.  laugh

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 Cheesy Those are so cute!
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« Reply #200 on: January 27, 2014, 02:14:51 PM »

I've just found it. Russians...



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Awesome. I know * likes to level everything down to some ridiculous common denominator which he believes conditions the view he is taking a stance against.

That he is almost always wrong is beside the point. He is clever when he does it, but nevertheless usually inaccurate.

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It's almost too cute to be schlock.  laugh

Oh? Then how about these:




 Cheesy Those are so cute!

Those actually look like nice little ornaments. They would go well on a Christmas tree. Smiley
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He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.



Wow, talk about a double whammy of schlockodoxy. Stepping on Christ, and an uncanonical "icon" of him to boot!  Shocked
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Brings new (bad) meaning to the rather cheesy Footprints in the Sand poem.


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Brings new (bad) meaning to the rather cheesy Footprints in the Sand poem.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.  Kiss Kiss Kiss
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Wow, talk about a double whammy of schlockodoxy. Stepping on Christ, and an uncanonical "icon" of him to boot!  Shocked
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« Reply #208 on: February 16, 2014, 10:41:16 PM »

While not produced by an "Orthodox" source, these caught my eye:



The spiel:

"My soles magnify the Lord." That's what you'll be saying as you slip into a pair of righteous Shoes of the Fisherman flip-flops.

These sandals leave their unique message "in the sand at the seashore, on sidewalks after a rain shower, and on wet pool decks." And "while the words disappear as the sands shift and the sidewalk dries, these footprints leave the greatest impression on the soul." Amen.

Hand-finished in Thailand, Shoes of the Fisherman flip-flops are blue and white with a contoured insole, and are "waffled to keep feet cool." Take your first steps into a new world of witnessing for just $XXXX (plus postage and packing).


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Wow, talk about a double whammy of schlockodoxy. Stepping on Christ, and an uncanonical "icon" of him to boot!  Shocked
Or maybe they are for really pious Orthodox, so they can step on heretical schlock wherever they go. Wink
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He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.



Wow, talk about a double whammy of schlockodoxy. Stepping on Christ, and an uncanonical "icon" of him to boot!  Shocked
Or maybe they are for really pious Orthodox, so they can step on heretical schlock wherever they go. Wink

I'm surprised it took so long for someone to say it.  Wink

At any rate, I'd never wear them. Or any flip-flops, for that matter. They keep falling off my feet.
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« Reply #212 on: February 17, 2014, 12:28:18 AM »

He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.



Wow, talk about a double whammy of schlockodoxy. Stepping on Christ, and an uncanonical "icon" of him to boot!  Shocked
Or maybe they are for really pious Orthodox, so they can step on heretical schlock wherever they go. Wink

I'm surprised it took so long for someone to say it.  Wink

At any rate, I'd never wear them. Or any flip-flops, for that matter. They keep falling off my feet.


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