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« on: November 30, 2013, 01:53:50 PM »

"Poorism" . Enjoy the experience.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/11/29/rich-tourists-now-staying-in-luxury-shanty-towns-so-they-can-pretend-to-be-poor/
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2013, 02:25:22 PM »

They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2013, 02:31:36 PM »

What a farce.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2013, 02:35:06 PM »

They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
I, for one, hope they would.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2013, 03:08:06 PM »

At least tell me rats chewing holes through the ceiling and making the under floor heating short out is part of the experience.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2013, 03:21:10 PM »

They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
I, for one, hope they would.

Why would you want to have people you don't even know stabbed?
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2013, 03:57:29 PM »

They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
I, for one, hope they would.

Why would you want to have people you don't even know stabbed?
Well if you are going to act the part of a pauper, you need to ready for Scene II of the dragedy.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2013, 04:26:06 PM »

They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
I, for one, hope they would.

Such a nice boy.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2013, 04:29:14 PM »

They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
I, for one, hope they would.

You hope that you would be robbed? You have food and apparently stable internet connection. That's fairly bourgeois.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2013, 04:51:55 PM »

I dont have wifi, but i have a fridge
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2013, 05:07:27 PM »

I dont have wifi, but i have a fridge

But still you wish ill and injury on those whom you hate dislike.  Such a nice, Christian boy... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2013, 05:09:33 PM »

I dont have wifi, but i have a fridge

But still you wish ill and injury on those whom you hate dislike.  Such a nice, Christian boy... Roll Eyes

I suspect Augustin is having fun. Your sanctimony, however, is in earnest as usual.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 05:22:14 PM »

I dont have wifi, but i have a fridge

But still you wish ill and injury on those whom you hate dislike.  Such a nice, Christian boy... Roll Eyes

I suspect Augustin is having fun. Your sanctimony, however, is in earnest as usual.

Sanctimony is only any good if it IS in earnest  Kiss.  Now, if Augustin is "having fun", he sure did a great job of fooling me and one or two others about it.  Somehow, I kinda suspect he isn't, as the attitude expressed in his words above has come across quite strongly in other threads.  But...nice job trying to defend him. Wink  If he's joking, it's not apparent.  It's not all that difficult to make it apparent.

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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2013, 09:03:33 PM »

Did it ever occur to you that I might actually take Scripture seriously and try to live my life according to the Word of God and the Fathers

From your posts in the private area, I hope this is a joke, cause if not it, it is.
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2013, 10:10:42 PM »

(Btw, when you use the term "sanctimony", by definition you are accusing me of having feigned or false righteousness.  Did it ever occur to you that I might actually take Scripture seriously and try to live my life according to the Word of God and the Fathers, although I frequently fail miserably?)

Your contempt and callousness toward your fellow human beings is pretty evident across the board. As for your self-deprecation act, it might be more convincing if you posted videos of you flagellating yourself.
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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 11:12:00 PM »

And the atheists continue to laugh...

(Strange story, though.)
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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2013, 11:31:14 PM »


Augustin, have you ever read Douglas Coupland's book "Generation X?" (http://www.amazon.com/Generation-X-Tales-Accelerated-Culture/dp/031205436X/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOTR53JD1BYAG) He mentions recreational slumming there.
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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2013, 11:33:04 PM »

They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.

That would make for great reality TV.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2013, 01:35:29 AM »

It is time to overthrow the bourgeoisie forever!
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2013, 02:46:37 AM »


I thought all slumming is recreational? If you just live there normally, it's called being poor.
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2013, 09:41:44 PM »


I thought all slumming is recreational? If you just live there normally, it's called being poor.

No, if you're poor, it just means you have yet to tap into market that is bored rich people looking for an experience. (Some of the bourgeoisie, more middle-class types, are paid to do slumming. Professional slummers may include undercover cops, soldiers, prostitutes, journalists, writers, actors, and artists. Although, to be fair, many of these might just as well be poor.)
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2013, 09:49:48 PM »


I thought all slumming is recreational? If you just live there normally, it's called being poor.

No, if you're poor, it just means you have yet to tap into market that is bored rich people looking for an experience. (Some of the bourgeoisie, more middle-class types, are paid to do slumming. Professional slummers may include undercover cops, soldiers, prostitutes, journalists, writers, actors, and artists. Although, to be fair, many of these might just as well be poor.)

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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2013, 02:22:53 PM »

I dont have wifi, but i have a fridge

But still you wish ill and injury on those whom you hate dislike.  Such a nice, Christian boy... Roll Eyes

I suspect Augustin is having fun. Your sanctimony, however, is in earnest as usual.
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2013, 04:22:13 PM »

It is time to overthrow the bourgeoisie forever!

Didn't someone already try that? How'd it work out, then?
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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2013, 05:12:10 PM »

When I was just graduated from college I unwittingly was taken "slumming" on a visit from the midwest to California to see my brother and sister-in-law. It was ridiculous.  They wanted to stay at this motel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco that was frequented by a lot of the alternative bands that came through town.   So we got there and the motel room we shared was all done up in vampire themes, with mustard yellow walls and red and purple drapery and black velvet paintings of vampires.  So, we then walked through a really scary neighborhood at night to the symphony and then walked back and it was even scarier.  Going back to our room there were naked people at the motel pool, both in the pool and running around, and the motel bar looked something out of the Jetsons.   Around 2 or 3 am on the hideaway sofa my face started itching, and I could hear some band outside the room talking about where they could go to get heroin.  So, the next morning I was really glad to move on, but my face really started swelling up.  Since it was Labor Day weekend, I couldn't go see any doctor and I called my mom back in Ohio who told me to go to the emergency room.  So, my brother took me to the Stanford hospital.  I was telling the nurse where I had been without saying "The Tenderloin" and she said, "oh my God, you weren't in the Tenderloin, were you? You could have gotten yourself killed!".  While I was waiting for the doctor, this nurse was bringing other ER staff to my room and saying "This is the girl who spent the night in the Tenderloin!"  I felt like a zoo animal.   And then the doctor said I had a multiple of flea bite all over my face.   I was so glad to go back to Ohio and haven't been back to California since.
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2013, 01:24:35 AM »

It is time to overthrow the bourgeoisie forever!

Didn't someone already try that? How'd it work out, then?

This time it will work!

And also the communism will work too! It just wont be stalinist! I swear trust me!
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2013, 10:09:36 AM »

It is time to overthrow the bourgeoisie forever!

Didn't someone already try that? How'd it work out, then?

This time it will work!

And also the communism will work too! It just wont be stalinist! I swear trust me!

Uh huh...

Who was it that said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2013, 11:23:53 AM »

^bless your heart!
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2013, 11:46:44 AM »

 
^bless your heart!


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It made me think of one of our unique "Southernisms." My grandmother used to say that you could say anything critical or mean, as long as you prefaced it with, "Bless his/her heart..."

As in "Bless her heart, she can't help that she drinks too much -with her husband running around with that hussy!"
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2013, 11:49:04 AM »

^bless your heart!


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It made me think of one of our unique "Southernisms." My grandmother used to say that you could say anything critical or mean, as long as you prefaced it with, "Bless his/her heart..."

As in "Bless her heart, she can't help that she drinks too much -with her husband running around with that hussy!"

And will maintain that Cincinnati is the end of the South. I grew up this just this nonsense and here it in certain circles today.

Blah, blah, blah (back biting critical stuff).

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Bless his heart.

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God love 'em!
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Our terms of endearment are more on the cannibalistic side: țucu-ți osu/ochii, etc. - "(I'd) kiss your bone/eyes", mânca-l-ar mama/tata - "may mum/dad [speaker] eat him/her [object of affection or anatomical bits thereof]". Kind of like Sufi mysticism.
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2013, 12:23:56 PM »

"Poorism" . Enjoy the experience.



I don't really get it.  They spend money to experience 'poverty' in a 'safe' setting, but they really don't experience the daily grind of poverty which includes things like anxiety to provide for children, how to feed them, get fuel for a lamp, fuel to cook something, to not know if you will have a home tomorrow.

And it's odd that impoverished countries have higher birth rates than wealthier countries like Japan.  Seems like if someone doesn't have a way to provide for children, maybe they should consider not having them, or having less of them.

But sometimes people have many children when times are good, and things change.  So only God knows.

It's like going camping, except more luxurious with radiant heat floors, fuel provided, probably no bed bugs or lice ridden bedding, etc. 

That is pretty disgusting that they spend almost a month's average wages for one night at the camp.  But perhaps it will cause someone to have enough of an insight to others lives to begin to help.  Bill Gates, for example, used to just hoard all his wealth, and somewhere along the line he had a change of heart and became a philanthropist. 

If not, they are the rich man stepping over Lazarus.  It's not a new story.
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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2013, 12:31:13 PM »

"Poorism" . Enjoy the experience.



I don't really get it.  They spend money to experience 'poverty' in a 'safe' setting, but they really don't experience the daily grind of poverty which includes things like anxiety to provide for children, how to feed them, get fuel for a lamp, fuel to cook something, to not know if you will have a home tomorrow. 
Maybe that’s the trick. Make it “unsafe,” and don’t give them any resources. Keep them locked in the “game reserve” for a week and see how well they fare.
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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2013, 03:03:32 PM »

"Poorism" . Enjoy the experience.



I don't really get it.  They spend money to experience 'poverty' in a 'safe' setting, but they really don't experience the daily grind of poverty which includes things like anxiety to provide for children, how to feed them, get fuel for a lamp, fuel to cook something, to not know if you will have a home tomorrow. 
Maybe that’s the trick. Make it “unsafe,” and don’t give them any resources. Keep them locked in the “game reserve” for a week and see how well they fare.

Great idea for "reality"  Roll Eyes t.v.
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Our terms of endearment are more on the cannibalistic side: țucu-ți osu/ochii, etc. - "(I'd) kiss your bone/eyes", mânca-l-ar mama/tata - "may mum/dad [speaker] eat him/her [object of affection or anatomical bits thereof]". Kind of like Sufi mysticism.

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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2013, 06:12:35 PM »

Our terms of endearment are more on the cannibalistic side: țucu-ți osu/ochii, etc. - "(I'd) kiss your bone/eyes", mânca-l-ar mama/tata - "may mum/dad [speaker] eat him/her [object of affection or anatomical bits thereof]". Kind of like Sufi mysticism.

The more I learn, the more bizarre your people seem.  Tongue
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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2013, 06:14:35 PM »

When I was just graduated from college I unwittingly was taken "slumming" on a visit from the midwest to California to see my brother and sister-in-law. It was ridiculous.  They wanted to stay at this motel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco that was frequented by a lot of the alternative bands that came through town.   So we got there and the motel room we shared was all done up in vampire themes, with mustard yellow walls and red and purple drapery and black velvet paintings of vampires.  So, we then walked through a really scary neighborhood at night to the symphony and then walked back and it was even scarier.  Going back to our room there were naked people at the motel pool, both in the pool and running around, and the motel bar looked something out of the Jetsons.   Around 2 or 3 am on the hideaway sofa my face started itching, and I could hear some band outside the room talking about where they could go to get heroin.  So, the next morning I was really glad to move on, but my face really started swelling up.  Since it was Labor Day weekend, I couldn't go see any doctor and I called my mom back in Ohio who told me to go to the emergency room.  So, my brother took me to the Stanford hospital.  I was telling the nurse where I had been without saying "The Tenderloin" and she said, "oh my God, you weren't in the Tenderloin, were you? You could have gotten yourself killed!".  While I was waiting for the doctor, this nurse was bringing other ER staff to my room and saying "This is the girl who spent the night in the Tenderloin!"  I felt like a zoo animal.   And then the doctor said I had a multiple of flea bite all over my face.   I was so glad to go back to Ohio and haven't been back to California since.
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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2013, 06:19:10 PM »

aren't these the same people who brought us OWS?
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« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2013, 08:42:07 PM »

We have similar creepy expressions in English about someone being so [X] that we could eat them up. Often addressed to children which just adds to the creepiness.

Sure, but it's usually "So and so is so cute I could eat him/her up", not "So and so is so cute I could eat his/her spleen". 
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« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2013, 08:47:42 PM »

We have similar creepy expressions in English about someone being so [X] that we could eat them up. Often addressed to children which just adds to the creepiness.

Sure, but it's usually "So and so is so cute I could eat him/her up", not "So and so is so cute I could eat his/her spleen". 

Hey, it's Romania.
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« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2013, 06:58:54 AM »

When I was just graduated from college I unwittingly was taken "slumming" on a visit from the midwest to California to see my brother and sister-in-law. It was ridiculous.  They wanted to stay at this motel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco that was frequented by a lot of the alternative bands that came through town.   So we got there and the motel room we shared was all done up in vampire themes, with mustard yellow walls and red and purple drapery and black velvet paintings of vampires.  So, we then walked through a really scary neighborhood at night to the symphony and then walked back and it was even scarier.  Going back to our room there were naked people at the motel pool, both in the pool and running around, and the motel bar looked something out of the Jetsons.   Around 2 or 3 am on the hideaway sofa my face started itching, and I could hear some band outside the room talking about where they could go to get heroin.  So, the next morning I was really glad to move on, but my face really started swelling up.  Since it was Labor Day weekend, I couldn't go see any doctor and I called my mom back in Ohio who told me to go to the emergency room.  So, my brother took me to the Stanford hospital.  I was telling the nurse where I had been without saying "The Tenderloin" and she said, "oh my God, you weren't in the Tenderloin, were you? You could have gotten yourself killed!".  While I was waiting for the doctor, this nurse was bringing other ER staff to my room and saying "This is the girl who spent the night in the Tenderloin!"  I felt like a zoo animal.   And then the doctor said I had a multiple of flea bite all over my face.   I was so glad to go back to Ohio and haven't been back to California since.

Trust me, the entire state of California is exactly like this.
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« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2013, 03:47:59 PM »

When I was just graduated from college I unwittingly was taken "slumming" on a visit from the midwest to California to see my brother and sister-in-law. It was ridiculous.  They wanted to stay at this motel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco that was frequented by a lot of the alternative bands that came through town.   So we got there and the motel room we shared was all done up in vampire themes, with mustard yellow walls and red and purple drapery and black velvet paintings of vampires.  So, we then walked through a really scary neighborhood at night to the symphony and then walked back and it was even scarier.  Going back to our room there were naked people at the motel pool, both in the pool and running around, and the motel bar looked something out of the Jetsons.   Around 2 or 3 am on the hideaway sofa my face started itching, and I could hear some band outside the room talking about where they could go to get heroin.  So, the next morning I was really glad to move on, but my face really started swelling up.  Since it was Labor Day weekend, I couldn't go see any doctor and I called my mom back in Ohio who told me to go to the emergency room.  So, my brother took me to the Stanford hospital.  I was telling the nurse where I had been without saying "The Tenderloin" and she said, "oh my God, you weren't in the Tenderloin, were you? You could have gotten yourself killed!".  While I was waiting for the doctor, this nurse was bringing other ER staff to my room and saying "This is the girl who spent the night in the Tenderloin!"  I felt like a zoo animal.   And then the doctor said I had a multiple of flea bite all over my face.   I was so glad to go back to Ohio and haven't been back to California since.

Trust me, the entire state of California is exactly like this.

Even Napa?
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« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2013, 05:03:02 PM »

When I was just graduated from college I unwittingly was taken "slumming" on a visit from the midwest to California to see my brother and sister-in-law. It was ridiculous.  They wanted to stay at this motel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco that was frequented by a lot of the alternative bands that came through town.   So we got there and the motel room we shared was all done up in vampire themes, with mustard yellow walls and red and purple drapery and black velvet paintings of vampires.  So, we then walked through a really scary neighborhood at night to the symphony and then walked back and it was even scarier.  Going back to our room there were naked people at the motel pool, both in the pool and running around, and the motel bar looked something out of the Jetsons.   Around 2 or 3 am on the hideaway sofa my face started itching, and I could hear some band outside the room talking about where they could go to get heroin.  So, the next morning I was really glad to move on, but my face really started swelling up.  Since it was Labor Day weekend, I couldn't go see any doctor and I called my mom back in Ohio who told me to go to the emergency room.  So, my brother took me to the Stanford hospital.  I was telling the nurse where I had been without saying "The Tenderloin" and she said, "oh my God, you weren't in the Tenderloin, were you? You could have gotten yourself killed!".  While I was waiting for the doctor, this nurse was bringing other ER staff to my room and saying "This is the girl who spent the night in the Tenderloin!"  I felt like a zoo animal.   And then the doctor said I had a multiple of flea bite all over my face.   I was so glad to go back to Ohio and haven't been back to California since.

Trust me, the entire state of California is exactly like this.

Even Napa?

Oh yeah...and Sonoma.  I should know...I spent 18 years in California, and every square inch of it is EXACTLY like that.  EXACTLY!!
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« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2013, 10:58:54 PM »

Oh yeah...and Sonoma.  I should know...I spent 18 years in California, and every square inch of it is EXACTLY like that.  EXACTLY!!
Well, that's disappointing.  The wine coming out of California doesn't fit that description, fortunately.
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« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2013, 03:22:26 PM »

Oh yeah...and Sonoma.  I should know...I spent 18 years in California, and every square inch of it is EXACTLY like that.  EXACTLY!!
Well, that's disappointing.  The wine coming out of California doesn't fit that description, fortunately.

Something mysterious and mystical happens to it on the way out  Grin.  This is indeed fortunate!!
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