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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2013, 02:25:22 PM »
They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2013, 02:31:36 PM »
What a farce.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2013, 02:35:06 PM »
They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
I, for one, hope they would.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2013, 03:08:06 PM »
At least tell me rats chewing holes through the ceiling and making the under floor heating short out is part of the experience.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2013, 03:21:10 PM »
They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
I, for one, hope they would.

Why would you want to have people you don't even know stabbed?
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2013, 03:57:29 PM »
They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
I, for one, hope they would.

Why would you want to have people you don't even know stabbed?
Well if you are going to act the part of a pauper, you need to ready for Scene II of the dragedy.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2013, 04:26:06 PM »
They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
I, for one, hope they would.

Such a nice boy.  ::)
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44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2013, 04:29:14 PM »
They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.
I, for one, hope they would.

You hope that you would be robbed? You have food and apparently stable internet connection. That's fairly bourgeois.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2013, 04:51:55 PM »
I dont have wifi, but i have a fridge
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2013, 05:07:27 PM »
I dont have wifi, but i have a fridge

But still you wish ill and injury on those whom you hate dislike.  Such a nice, Christian boy... ::)
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2013, 05:09:33 PM »
I dont have wifi, but i have a fridge

But still you wish ill and injury on those whom you hate dislike.  Such a nice, Christian boy... ::)

I suspect Augustin is having fun. Your sanctimony, however, is in earnest as usual.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 05:22:14 PM »
I dont have wifi, but i have a fridge

But still you wish ill and injury on those whom you hate dislike.  Such a nice, Christian boy... ::)

I suspect Augustin is having fun. Your sanctimony, however, is in earnest as usual.

Sanctimony is only any good if it IS in earnest  :-*.  Now, if Augustin is "having fun", he sure did a great job of fooling me and one or two others about it.  Somehow, I kinda suspect he isn't, as the attitude expressed in his words above has come across quite strongly in other threads.  But...nice job trying to defend him. ;)  If he's joking, it's not apparent.  It's not all that difficult to make it apparent.

(Btw, when you use the term "sanctimony", by definition you are accusing me of having feigned or false righteousness.  Did it ever occur to you that I might actually take Scripture seriously and try to live my life according to the Word of God and the Fathers, although I frequently fail miserably?)
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2013, 09:03:33 PM »
Did it ever occur to you that I might actually take Scripture seriously and try to live my life according to the Word of God and the Fathers

From your posts in the private area, I hope this is a joke, cause if not it, it is.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2013, 10:10:42 PM »
(Btw, when you use the term "sanctimony", by definition you are accusing me of having feigned or false righteousness.  Did it ever occur to you that I might actually take Scripture seriously and try to live my life according to the Word of God and the Fathers, although I frequently fail miserably?)

Your contempt and callousness toward your fellow human beings is pretty evident across the board. As for your self-deprecation act, it might be more convincing if you posted videos of you flagellating yourself.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 11:12:00 PM »
And the atheists continue to laugh...

(Strange story, though.)
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2013, 11:33:04 PM »
They would get robbed and stabbed as soon as they'd set foot in a real shanty town.

That would make for great reality TV.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2013, 01:35:29 AM »
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2013, 02:46:37 AM »
"Poorism" . Enjoy the experience.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/11/29/rich-tourists-now-staying-in-luxury-shanty-towns-so-they-can-pretend-to-be-poor/

Augustin, have you ever read Douglas Coupland's book "Generation X?" (http://www.amazon.com/Generation-X-Tales-Accelerated-Culture/dp/031205436X/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOTR53JD1BYAG) He mentions recreational slumming there.

I thought all slumming is recreational? If you just live there normally, it's called being poor.

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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2013, 09:41:44 PM »
"Poorism" . Enjoy the experience.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/11/29/rich-tourists-now-staying-in-luxury-shanty-towns-so-they-can-pretend-to-be-poor/

Augustin, have you ever read Douglas Coupland's book "Generation X?" (http://www.amazon.com/Generation-X-Tales-Accelerated-Culture/dp/031205436X/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOTR53JD1BYAG) He mentions recreational slumming there.

I thought all slumming is recreational? If you just live there normally, it's called being poor.

No, if you're poor, it just means you have yet to tap into market that is bored rich people looking for an experience. (Some of the bourgeoisie, more middle-class types, are paid to do slumming. Professional slummers may include undercover cops, soldiers, prostitutes, journalists, writers, actors, and artists. Although, to be fair, many of these might just as well be poor.)
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2013, 09:49:48 PM »
"Poorism" . Enjoy the experience.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/11/29/rich-tourists-now-staying-in-luxury-shanty-towns-so-they-can-pretend-to-be-poor/

Augustin, have you ever read Douglas Coupland's book "Generation X?" (http://www.amazon.com/Generation-X-Tales-Accelerated-Culture/dp/031205436X/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOTR53JD1BYAG) He mentions recreational slumming there.

I thought all slumming is recreational? If you just live there normally, it's called being poor.

No, if you're poor, it just means you have yet to tap into market that is bored rich people looking for an experience. (Some of the bourgeoisie, more middle-class types, are paid to do slumming. Professional slummers may include undercover cops, soldiers, prostitutes, journalists, writers, actors, and artists. Although, to be fair, many of these might just as well be poor.)

Brilliance.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2013, 11:50:33 AM »
I could have issued several warnings here for ad-hominems and other infractions.  Really people, this is a Christian forum.  Can we not try and conduct ourselves accordingly?  Please refrain from personal attacks and un-Christian thoughts or this thread will be locked and warnings may be issued.

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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2013, 02:22:53 PM »
I dont have wifi, but i have a fridge

But still you wish ill and injury on those whom you hate dislike.  Such a nice, Christian boy... ::)

I suspect Augustin is having fun. Your sanctimony, however, is in earnest as usual.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2013, 04:22:13 PM »
It is time to overthrow the bourgeoisie forever!

Didn't someone already try that? How'd it work out, then?
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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2013, 05:12:10 PM »
When I was just graduated from college I unwittingly was taken "slumming" on a visit from the midwest to California to see my brother and sister-in-law. It was ridiculous.  They wanted to stay at this motel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco that was frequented by a lot of the alternative bands that came through town.   So we got there and the motel room we shared was all done up in vampire themes, with mustard yellow walls and red and purple drapery and black velvet paintings of vampires.  So, we then walked through a really scary neighborhood at night to the symphony and then walked back and it was even scarier.  Going back to our room there were naked people at the motel pool, both in the pool and running around, and the motel bar looked something out of the Jetsons.   Around 2 or 3 am on the hideaway sofa my face started itching, and I could hear some band outside the room talking about where they could go to get heroin.  So, the next morning I was really glad to move on, but my face really started swelling up.  Since it was Labor Day weekend, I couldn't go see any doctor and I called my mom back in Ohio who told me to go to the emergency room.  So, my brother took me to the Stanford hospital.  I was telling the nurse where I had been without saying "The Tenderloin" and she said, "oh my God, you weren't in the Tenderloin, were you? You could have gotten yourself killed!".  While I was waiting for the doctor, this nurse was bringing other ER staff to my room and saying "This is the girl who spent the night in the Tenderloin!"  I felt like a zoo animal.   And then the doctor said I had a multiple of flea bite all over my face.   I was so glad to go back to Ohio and haven't been back to California since.

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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2013, 01:24:35 AM »
It is time to overthrow the bourgeoisie forever!

Didn't someone already try that? How'd it work out, then?

This time it will work!

And also the communism will work too! It just wont be stalinist! I swear trust me!
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2013, 10:09:36 AM »
It is time to overthrow the bourgeoisie forever!

Didn't someone already try that? How'd it work out, then?

This time it will work!

And also the communism will work too! It just wont be stalinist! I swear trust me!

Uh huh...

Who was it that said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2013, 11:23:53 AM »
^bless your heart!
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2013, 11:46:44 AM »
 
^bless your heart!


 ;D

It made me think of one of our unique "Southernisms." My grandmother used to say that you could say anything critical or mean, as long as you prefaced it with, "Bless his/her heart..."

As in "Bless her heart, she can't help that she drinks too much -with her husband running around with that hussy!"
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2013, 11:49:04 AM »
^bless your heart!


 ;D

It made me think of one of our unique "Southernisms." My grandmother used to say that you could say anything critical or mean, as long as you prefaced it with, "Bless his/her heart..."

As in "Bless her heart, she can't help that she drinks too much -with her husband running around with that hussy!"

And will maintain that Cincinnati is the end of the South. I grew up this just this nonsense and here it in certain circles today.

Blah, blah, blah (back biting critical stuff).

Then:

Bless his heart.

or:

God love 'em!
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2013, 12:03:53 PM »
Our terms of endearment are more on the cannibalistic side: țucu-ți osu/ochii, etc. - "(I'd) kiss your bone/eyes", mânca-l-ar mama/tata - "may mum/dad [speaker] eat him/her [object of affection or anatomical bits thereof]". Kind of like Sufi mysticism.

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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2013, 12:23:56 PM »
"Poorism" . Enjoy the experience.



I don't really get it.  They spend money to experience 'poverty' in a 'safe' setting, but they really don't experience the daily grind of poverty which includes things like anxiety to provide for children, how to feed them, get fuel for a lamp, fuel to cook something, to not know if you will have a home tomorrow.

And it's odd that impoverished countries have higher birth rates than wealthier countries like Japan.  Seems like if someone doesn't have a way to provide for children, maybe they should consider not having them, or having less of them.

But sometimes people have many children when times are good, and things change.  So only God knows.

It's like going camping, except more luxurious with radiant heat floors, fuel provided, probably no bed bugs or lice ridden bedding, etc. 

That is pretty disgusting that they spend almost a month's average wages for one night at the camp.  But perhaps it will cause someone to have enough of an insight to others lives to begin to help.  Bill Gates, for example, used to just hoard all his wealth, and somewhere along the line he had a change of heart and became a philanthropist. 

If not, they are the rich man stepping over Lazarus.  It's not a new story.

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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2013, 12:31:13 PM »
"Poorism" . Enjoy the experience.



I don't really get it.  They spend money to experience 'poverty' in a 'safe' setting, but they really don't experience the daily grind of poverty which includes things like anxiety to provide for children, how to feed them, get fuel for a lamp, fuel to cook something, to not know if you will have a home tomorrow. 
Maybe that’s the trick. Make it “unsafe,” and don’t give them any resources. Keep them locked in the “game reserve” for a week and see how well they fare.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2013, 03:03:32 PM »
"Poorism" . Enjoy the experience.



I don't really get it.  They spend money to experience 'poverty' in a 'safe' setting, but they really don't experience the daily grind of poverty which includes things like anxiety to provide for children, how to feed them, get fuel for a lamp, fuel to cook something, to not know if you will have a home tomorrow. 
Maybe that’s the trick. Make it “unsafe,” and don’t give them any resources. Keep them locked in the “game reserve” for a week and see how well they fare.

Great idea for "reality"  ::) t.v.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2013, 05:09:26 PM »
Our terms of endearment are more on the cannibalistic side: țucu-ți osu/ochii, etc. - "(I'd) kiss your bone/eyes", mânca-l-ar mama/tata - "may mum/dad [speaker] eat him/her [object of affection or anatomical bits thereof]". Kind of like Sufi mysticism.

The more I learn, the more bizarre your people seem.  :P
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2013, 06:12:35 PM »
Our terms of endearment are more on the cannibalistic side: țucu-ți osu/ochii, etc. - "(I'd) kiss your bone/eyes", mânca-l-ar mama/tata - "may mum/dad [speaker] eat him/her [object of affection or anatomical bits thereof]". Kind of like Sufi mysticism.

The more I learn, the more bizarre your people seem.  :P
We have similar creepy expressions in English about someone being so [X] that we could eat them up. Often addressed to children which just adds to the creepiness.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2013, 06:14:35 PM »
When I was just graduated from college I unwittingly was taken "slumming" on a visit from the midwest to California to see my brother and sister-in-law. It was ridiculous.  They wanted to stay at this motel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco that was frequented by a lot of the alternative bands that came through town.   So we got there and the motel room we shared was all done up in vampire themes, with mustard yellow walls and red and purple drapery and black velvet paintings of vampires.  So, we then walked through a really scary neighborhood at night to the symphony and then walked back and it was even scarier.  Going back to our room there were naked people at the motel pool, both in the pool and running around, and the motel bar looked something out of the Jetsons.   Around 2 or 3 am on the hideaway sofa my face started itching, and I could hear some band outside the room talking about where they could go to get heroin.  So, the next morning I was really glad to move on, but my face really started swelling up.  Since it was Labor Day weekend, I couldn't go see any doctor and I called my mom back in Ohio who told me to go to the emergency room.  So, my brother took me to the Stanford hospital.  I was telling the nurse where I had been without saying "The Tenderloin" and she said, "oh my God, you weren't in the Tenderloin, were you? You could have gotten yourself killed!".  While I was waiting for the doctor, this nurse was bringing other ER staff to my room and saying "This is the girl who spent the night in the Tenderloin!"  I felt like a zoo animal.   And then the doctor said I had a multiple of flea bite all over my face.   I was so glad to go back to Ohio and haven't been back to California since.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2013, 08:42:07 PM »
We have similar creepy expressions in English about someone being so [X] that we could eat them up. Often addressed to children which just adds to the creepiness.

Sure, but it's usually "So and so is so cute I could eat him/her up", not "So and so is so cute I could eat his/her spleen". 
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2013, 08:47:42 PM »
We have similar creepy expressions in English about someone being so [X] that we could eat them up. Often addressed to children which just adds to the creepiness.

Sure, but it's usually "So and so is so cute I could eat him/her up", not "So and so is so cute I could eat his/her spleen". 

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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2013, 06:58:54 AM »
When I was just graduated from college I unwittingly was taken "slumming" on a visit from the midwest to California to see my brother and sister-in-law. It was ridiculous.  They wanted to stay at this motel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco that was frequented by a lot of the alternative bands that came through town.   So we got there and the motel room we shared was all done up in vampire themes, with mustard yellow walls and red and purple drapery and black velvet paintings of vampires.  So, we then walked through a really scary neighborhood at night to the symphony and then walked back and it was even scarier.  Going back to our room there were naked people at the motel pool, both in the pool and running around, and the motel bar looked something out of the Jetsons.   Around 2 or 3 am on the hideaway sofa my face started itching, and I could hear some band outside the room talking about where they could go to get heroin.  So, the next morning I was really glad to move on, but my face really started swelling up.  Since it was Labor Day weekend, I couldn't go see any doctor and I called my mom back in Ohio who told me to go to the emergency room.  So, my brother took me to the Stanford hospital.  I was telling the nurse where I had been without saying "The Tenderloin" and she said, "oh my God, you weren't in the Tenderloin, were you? You could have gotten yourself killed!".  While I was waiting for the doctor, this nurse was bringing other ER staff to my room and saying "This is the girl who spent the night in the Tenderloin!"  I felt like a zoo animal.   And then the doctor said I had a multiple of flea bite all over my face.   I was so glad to go back to Ohio and haven't been back to California since.

Trust me, the entire state of California is exactly like this.
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2013, 03:47:59 PM »
When I was just graduated from college I unwittingly was taken "slumming" on a visit from the midwest to California to see my brother and sister-in-law. It was ridiculous.  They wanted to stay at this motel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco that was frequented by a lot of the alternative bands that came through town.   So we got there and the motel room we shared was all done up in vampire themes, with mustard yellow walls and red and purple drapery and black velvet paintings of vampires.  So, we then walked through a really scary neighborhood at night to the symphony and then walked back and it was even scarier.  Going back to our room there were naked people at the motel pool, both in the pool and running around, and the motel bar looked something out of the Jetsons.   Around 2 or 3 am on the hideaway sofa my face started itching, and I could hear some band outside the room talking about where they could go to get heroin.  So, the next morning I was really glad to move on, but my face really started swelling up.  Since it was Labor Day weekend, I couldn't go see any doctor and I called my mom back in Ohio who told me to go to the emergency room.  So, my brother took me to the Stanford hospital.  I was telling the nurse where I had been without saying "The Tenderloin" and she said, "oh my God, you weren't in the Tenderloin, were you? You could have gotten yourself killed!".  While I was waiting for the doctor, this nurse was bringing other ER staff to my room and saying "This is the girl who spent the night in the Tenderloin!"  I felt like a zoo animal.   And then the doctor said I had a multiple of flea bite all over my face.   I was so glad to go back to Ohio and haven't been back to California since.

Trust me, the entire state of California is exactly like this.

Even Napa?
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2013, 05:03:02 PM »
When I was just graduated from college I unwittingly was taken "slumming" on a visit from the midwest to California to see my brother and sister-in-law. It was ridiculous.  They wanted to stay at this motel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco that was frequented by a lot of the alternative bands that came through town.   So we got there and the motel room we shared was all done up in vampire themes, with mustard yellow walls and red and purple drapery and black velvet paintings of vampires.  So, we then walked through a really scary neighborhood at night to the symphony and then walked back and it was even scarier.  Going back to our room there were naked people at the motel pool, both in the pool and running around, and the motel bar looked something out of the Jetsons.   Around 2 or 3 am on the hideaway sofa my face started itching, and I could hear some band outside the room talking about where they could go to get heroin.  So, the next morning I was really glad to move on, but my face really started swelling up.  Since it was Labor Day weekend, I couldn't go see any doctor and I called my mom back in Ohio who told me to go to the emergency room.  So, my brother took me to the Stanford hospital.  I was telling the nurse where I had been without saying "The Tenderloin" and she said, "oh my God, you weren't in the Tenderloin, were you? You could have gotten yourself killed!".  While I was waiting for the doctor, this nurse was bringing other ER staff to my room and saying "This is the girl who spent the night in the Tenderloin!"  I felt like a zoo animal.   And then the doctor said I had a multiple of flea bite all over my face.   I was so glad to go back to Ohio and haven't been back to California since.

Trust me, the entire state of California is exactly like this.

Even Napa?

Oh yeah...and Sonoma.  I should know...I spent 18 years in California, and every square inch of it is EXACTLY like that.  EXACTLY!!
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Re: Newer trends in contemporary bourgeois decadence
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2013, 10:58:54 PM »
Oh yeah...and Sonoma.  I should know...I spent 18 years in California, and every square inch of it is EXACTLY like that.  EXACTLY!!
Well, that's disappointing.  The wine coming out of California doesn't fit that description, fortunately.
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