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« on: November 29, 2013, 12:01:21 AM »

Greetings and God bless,

Would anyone happen to know any good (yet accessible) philosophers who hold the Orthodox faith that would be worth reading?  Thank you for your time. 
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2013, 12:20:20 AM »

Richard Swinburne has a few accessible books.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2013, 12:34:22 AM »

David Bentley Hart is a very well known Orthodox philosopher.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2013, 03:30:11 PM »

There is a book called Turning East that contains testimonials from several philosophers who are converts to Orthodoxy.

http://www.svspress.com/turning-east-contemporary-philosophers-and-the-ancient-christian-faith/
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 05:38:36 PM »

David Bradshaw has produced a couple of interesting things.
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2014, 01:45:39 AM »

Who else...? Huh
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2014, 02:19:33 AM »

The Cappadocian Fathers.
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2014, 06:17:46 AM »

The Cappadocian Fathers.

I heard they died a while back, so they don't count...
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2014, 07:18:57 AM »

Greetings and God bless,

Would anyone happen to know any good (yet accessible) philosophers who hold the Orthodox faith that would be worth reading?  Thank you for your time. 

Fr. Pavel Florensky
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2014, 09:37:17 AM »

David Bentley Hart is a very well known Orthodox philosopher.


And he is questioning Palamist doctrine... better to pass.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2014, 09:47:27 AM »

David Bentley Hart is a very well known Orthodox philosopher.


And he is questioning Palamist doctrine... better to pass.

Palamism is not the end-all and be-all of Orthodoxy, much as certain modern Orthodox want it to be.
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2014, 10:04:11 AM »

David Bentley Hart is a very well known Orthodox philosopher.


And he is questioning Palamist doctrine... better to pass.
Heaven forbid we read authors that disagree with our perspectives.
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2014, 11:13:18 AM »

David Bentley Hart is a very well known Orthodox philosopher.
And he is questioning Palamist doctrine... better to pass.

Palamism is not the end-all and be-all of Orthodoxy, much as certain modern Orthodox want it to be.
I failed to notice it since he is being celebrated in Paschal Circle, courtesy in Byzantine rite, reserved to those who defined Orthodox teaching in encounter with heresy. Also, as far as I remeber nobody besides mr. Bentley Hart disagree over Palamism... many go that far to call Hesychast councils Ecumenical... Other certainly go to accept Hesychast councils as absolutley binding in matters of Faith...
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2014, 11:15:57 AM »

David Bentley Hart is a very well known Orthodox philosopher.


And he is questioning Palamist doctrine... better to pass.
Heaven forbid we read authors that disagree with our perspectives.

Well OP asked for philosophers holding Orthodox faith... didnt he?

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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2014, 11:27:59 AM »

David Bentley Hart is a very well known Orthodox philosopher.
And he is questioning Palamist doctrine... better to pass.

Palamism is not the end-all and be-all of Orthodoxy, much as certain modern Orthodox want it to be.
I failed to notice it since he is being celebrated in Paschal Circle, courtesy in Byzantine rite, reserved to those who defined Orthodox teaching in encounter with heresy. Also, as far as I remeber nobody besides mr. Bentley Hart disagree over Palamism... many go that far to call Hesychast councils Ecumenical... Other certainly go to accept Hesychast councils as absolutley binding in matters of Faith...

There is a difference between St. Gregory Palamas and Palamism. Hart takes some issue with the latter, especially the "Neo-Palamism" of the 20th century. That someone might confuse a rejection of a modernist conception of Palamas with a rejection of the saint himself is part of the problem.
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2014, 11:40:28 AM »

David Bentley Hart is a very well known Orthodox philosopher.
And he is questioning Palamist doctrine... better to pass.
Palamism is not the end-all and be-all of Orthodoxy, much as certain modern Orthodox want it to be.
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I failed to notice it since he is being celebrated in Paschal Circle, courtesy in Byzantine rite, reserved to those who defined Orthodox teaching in encounter with heresy. Also, as far as I remeber nobody besides mr. Bentley Hart disagree over Palamism... many go that far to call Hesychast councils Ecumenical... Other certainly go to accept Hesychast councils as absolutley binding in matters of Faith...

There is a difference between St. Gregory Palamas and Palamism. Hart takes some issue with the latter, especially the "Neo-Palamism" of the 20th century. That someone might confuse a rejection of a modernist conception of Palamas with a rejection of the saint himself is part of the problem.

Had it be critique of Vladimir Lossky, than maybe, I would see your point. But Hart goes pretty much on stating, he does not understand necessity of Palama's insisting of essence-energies distinction... and his remarks about Palama not being original metaphysicist... I am paraphrasing, but when it would be only Lossky, I would ignore. Despite the fact, name of Lossky is far greater Authority than Hart... but Hart seems to have issue with Palamas and Palamists (Nicholas Kabasylla, Nilos Kabasylla etc) rather than with Neo-Palamists... (Lossky and co).
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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2014, 12:33:03 PM »

The Cappadocian Fathers.

I heard they died a while back, so they don't count...

You heard wrong. Wink "He is not the God of the dead, but of the living."
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2014, 06:02:35 PM »

There is a whole trend among Orthodox theologians today to reject if not in substance, at least in spirit, much of what was done in the 20th century.

There is a clear tendency to doubt that "neo-patristic synthesis" is viable or even ontologically true. That much of the discourse around energies and essences is just an excuse to be biased against the West.

In this contemporary trend emphasis on the differences if not frowned upon is at least not desired. It is very much interested in what is similar or maybe even the same under different words.

It is true that there is an undercurrent of Anti-Westernism, specially in Orthodox political theology ("God really wants to be under a Christian dictator, an authoritarian theocracy is the icon of the kingdom of God, opression is only bad if practiced against us, it'd be nice to force an Orthodox Christian society over other peoples, bleh to satanic democracy!")

But I believe modern theologians have been a bit too much on the opposite side exchanging the ethnophiletism of particular nations for the ethnophiletism of globalism, the nationality of the global state in construction. Symbolic of that is the theological school of Volos who wants Orthodoxy in Greece to detach itself from the Greek nationality but not from the state. They want to be global citizens but still have all the privileges of being government employees of Greece.

Global citizenship is as bad as national citizenship for the church. Probably worse because at least some nationalities are natural and the "global citizen" is entirely artificial.
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2014, 07:01:17 PM »

Philo or Clement of Alexandria? ..
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2014, 07:27:47 PM »

Philo or Clement of Alexandria?

But Philo was a Jewish philosopher.
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2014, 08:52:30 PM »

Philo or Clement of Alexandria?

But Philo was a Jewish philosopher.

So? ...
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2014, 08:57:04 PM »

Philo or Clement of Alexandria?

But Philo was a Jewish philosopher.

So? ...

Ooh I see what you did there.
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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2014, 10:07:58 PM »

Greetings and God bless,

Would anyone happen to know any good (yet accessible) philosophers who hold the Orthodox faith that would be worth reading?  Thank you for your time. 

Fr. Pavel Florensky
You can add Fr. Sergius Bulgakov to this as well, who I understand was also a convert from atheism.

And although not technically a philosopher, but still, the late Metropolitan Anthony Bloom was also a convert from atheism, and very spiritual in his works, but not far from philosophical as well.
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