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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 07:13:24 AM »
These are actually some of the smarter of them. :)

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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 07:20:35 AM »
I wonder how the average European would do if asked to name the states on a blank map of the US.

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 07:25:24 AM »
I wonder how the average European would do if asked to name the states on a blank map of the US.

here: http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/its-thanksgiving-so-we-asked-some-brits-to-label-the-us-stat

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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2013, 07:33:27 AM »
I wonder how the average European would do if asked to name the states on a blank map of the US.

here: http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/its-thanksgiving-so-we-asked-some-brits-to-label-the-us-stat

Lol! Just as I figured - people would get California, Texas and Alaska right most of the time (like France, Germany and the UK on the other map); but some even manage to get the East and the West Coast states mixed up!

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2013, 07:39:11 AM »
I would get 8 maybe. Definitely not more than 10.

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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2013, 07:59:43 AM »
I can get most of them, but that's because I lived in Canada and like geography. Otherwise, I honestly can't blame people.

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2013, 08:19:37 AM »
I can get most of them, but that's because I lived in Canada and like geography. Otherwise, I honestly can't blame people.

Same here (except not in Canada).  Geography was one of my favorite subjects growing up.
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2013, 08:38:11 AM »
I would get 8 maybe. Definitely not more than 10.

Same here. American states are all pretty much the same anyway.
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 08:50:16 AM »
I would get 8 maybe. Definitely not more than 10.

Same here. American states are all pretty much the same anyway.

Yeah, basically just big blocks filled with white people.  Kind of like Europe, actually. ;D
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2013, 08:51:42 AM »
I would get 8 maybe. Definitely not more than 10.

Same here. American states are all pretty much the same anyway.

Yeah, basically just big blocks filled with white people.  Kind of like Europe, actually. ;D

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 08:52:31 AM »
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 08:54:15 AM »
I would get 8 maybe. Definitely not more than 10.

Same here. American states are all pretty much the same anyway.

Yeah, basically just big blocks filled with white people.  Kind of like Europe, actually. ;D

No. In American states they all speak English, vote for the same two parties, pretty much have a shared history, watch the same shows, eat the same food (with a few exceptions) and listen to the same music. Not so in Europe.
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2013, 08:57:38 AM »
I am impressed almost everyone got Northern Ireland.

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 09:02:24 AM »
I would get 8 maybe. Definitely not more than 10.

Same here. American states are all pretty much the same anyway.

Yeah, basically just big blocks filled with white people.  Kind of like Europe, actually. ;D

No. In American states they all speak English, vote for the same two parties, pretty much have a shared history, watch the same shows, eat the same food (with a few exceptions) and listen to the same music. Not so in Europe.

So no white people in Europe, huh?
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2013, 09:57:32 AM »
No. In American states they all speak English,

I wish.  Sadly, this doesn't reflect reality.  I can't tell you how many folks I've tried to help who don't speak a lick of English.  I wish folks would learn English if they're gonna move to America.  They can speak whatever they want at home, but in the public square: ENGLISH.

vote for the same two parties,
This is because our media primarily focuses on the two main parties:  Democrats and Republicans.  Nowadays, they're pretty much the same thing.

pretty much have a shared history, watch the same shows, eat the same food (with a few exceptions) and listen to the same music.
Well we are the UNITED states, after all.

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2013, 10:24:59 AM »
I can get most of them, but that's because I lived in Canada and like geography. Otherwise, I honestly can't blame people.

I will admit that I would have a hard time drawing a map of Canada.  I am better than your average Amerikaner at geography, but not that good.  Basically, I'd just draw a santa hat with a bunch of islands up top (using Greenland as the ball, even though it's not Canada, just for a sense of completeness) then write Newfoundland/PEI on the right (I could have sworn there was a third Atlantic bit....New Braunschweig or something), BC on the left with Alberta, Manitoba, and Saskatchepuwan in some order in the middle with Ontario and Quebec in that order going eastwards.  In the north I'd write "used to be Yukon/Northern Stuff, now has some funny name...Nunavuk, Nanook'o'north or something like that.) 
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2013, 01:25:17 PM »
Lots of people got New York wrong. It's more than a city!  :police:
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2013, 01:29:14 PM »
Out of curiosity, Michal- when did you learn English?
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2013, 01:31:38 PM »
Out of curiosity, Michal- when did you learn English?

I started when I was 7. Why are you asking?

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2013, 01:35:23 PM »
I would get 8 maybe. Definitely not more than 10.

Same here. American states are all pretty much the same anyway.

Yeah, basically just big blocks filled with white people.  Kind of like Europe, actually. ;D

No. In American states they all speak English, vote for the same two parties, pretty much have a shared history, watch the same shows, eat the same food (with a few exceptions) and listen to the same music. Not so in Europe.

So no white people in Europe, huh?

This is a parody, right? Please?

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2013, 01:40:29 PM »
Out of curiosity, Michal- when did you learn English?

I started when I was 7. Why are you asking?

Oh, I was just curious if you started learning it when you were young because you speak it very well. Well... you type it very well anyway. I don't know how you pronounce it.  :P
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2013, 01:42:59 PM »
I started when I was 10. Is that somehow unusual? Doesn't all European countries have English lessons in elementary school?
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2013, 01:52:38 PM »
Do they? I don't know.
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2013, 01:54:36 PM »
strange- I haven't been in the UK for 10 years, and I'm still reasonably sure the little bit at the top of Ireland is part of the UK. And that the country known as mini-Poland is in fact Belarus. And that Turkey is not Ukraine.
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2013, 02:28:46 PM »
I would have done pretty well with this- up until the point you get to all the Balkan and former USSR states that had the gall to break into different countries after the Iron Curtain fell. Most of those countries broke apart right before I entered high school, and by the time geography came round again we had yet to get updated textbooks :D
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« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2013, 02:32:40 PM »
I would have done pretty well with this- up until the point you get to all the Balkan and former USSR states that had the gall to break into different countries after the Iron Curtain fell. Most of those countries broke apart right before I entered high school, and by the time geography came round again we had yet to get updated textbooks :D

Most of the people around here solve this by switching "Soviet" to "Russian". Eastern Europe consists of Greek tourist attractions, Romanian gypsies and different kinds of Russians.

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2013, 03:06:41 PM »
I started when I was 10. Is that somehow unusual? Doesn't all European countries have English lessons in elementary school?

I started learning English when I got a Playstation. I think I was four at the time. The English you learn at school is bad anyway. At best you'll learn how to order a pizza and ask for directions.
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2013, 03:10:25 PM »
I started when I was 10. Is that somehow unusual? Doesn't all European countries have English lessons in elementary school?

I started learning English when I got a Playstation. I think I was four at the time. The English you learn at school is bad anyway. At best you'll learn how to order a pizza and ask for directions.

Good point. I forgot my first lessons with this:


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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2013, 03:11:19 PM »
I started when I was 10. Is that somehow unusual? Doesn't all European countries have English lessons in elementary school?

I started learning English when I got a Playstation. I think I was four at the time. The English you learn at school is bad anyway. At best you'll learn how to order a pizza and ask for directions.

There was always Cartoon Network.

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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2013, 03:16:16 PM »
I started when I was 10. Is that somehow unusual? Doesn't all European countries have English lessons in elementary school?

I started learning English when I got a Playstation. I think I was four at the time. The English you learn at school is bad anyway. At best you'll learn how to order a pizza and ask for directions.

There was always Cartoon Network.

The shows on Cartoon Network were almost always dubbed.
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2013, 03:16:47 PM »
I started when I was 10. Is that somehow unusual? Doesn't all European countries have English lessons in elementary school?

I started when I was 6, in a private institute after school hours. There were no language lessons in primary school back then. People still do the private institute thing anyway - the learning is better and faster.
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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2013, 03:25:30 PM »
What language do you primarily think in?
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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2013, 03:29:05 PM »
What language do you primarily think in?

Karelian dialect of Finnish language. A bit weird since it's not my native dialect. Although I've sometimes suprised myself by thinking in English (and Swedish) too.

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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2013, 03:29:58 PM »
What language do you primarily think in?

Me? Greek and English, about 60-40. Sometimes switching in midthought. Being in my head can be very confusing. ;)
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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2013, 03:33:34 PM »
The shows on Cartoon Network were almost always dubbed.

We had original version prior to start of Polish branch.

What language do you primarily think in?

Mix of Polish and Podlachian mostly.

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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2013, 03:46:31 PM »
What language do you primarily think in?

Dutch. Sometimes English.
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« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2013, 05:00:29 PM »
Am I the only person who doesn't find most of Europe or North America interesting enough to justify learning and retaining facts about its geography? I have a feeling I would do okay with the European map if I really applied myself (or at least I'm probably not stupid enough to put freaking Uzbekistan on it; I don't know if Americans in general are aware of Central Asia as its own distinct cultural and geographical region; I have a feeling that most even today after what seems like a million years in Afghanistan would think that those countries are part of the Middle East), and I've been to most of the United States except for New England (I've only been to MA; that's enough for me...ship it back to Old England, please), but sheesh...I hate to agree with Cyrillic, but much of the USA is culturally homogenous and frankly pretty boring. We can and do easily divide up into cultural zones because there are only a few sort of macro-cultures that represent most of the country, and the same is true for Europe if you really think about it. I know, I know...you have many countries and languages (most of which are from one family, but y'know...shhhh, Europe is so much more interesting than North America), and I'm really proud of you, but where do you think the USA got most of its boring, ignorant white people in the first place? I'm looking at you, England/Germany/France/Scandinavia/Slavic countries. You did that.

No. In American states they all speak English, vote for the same two parties, pretty much have a shared history, watch the same shows, eat the same food (with a few exceptions) and listen to the same music. Not so in Europe.

There's probably a large degree of sarcasm in the above reply (or at least I hope there is...you really want to knock us because we don't have the wonder that is Eurovision to showcase our lovely native talent? Hahaha), but it still deserves pondering...particularly the language part...

In addition to an untracked number of tri-and-above-linguals (and the non-English monolinguals Gabriel was complaining about), in the USA of today we're close to twenty percent bilinguals. Not so impressive compared to Europe, I guess, but 20% of 300 million is still 60 million people, which is what...equal to about 12-13% of Europe's total population? And that's without the comprehensive education mandates to teach another language comparable to what I understand is the norm in most of Europe. We could and should be doing a lot better (and like the article I just liked says, we are becoming more multilingual these days), but the perception that the USA is a monolingual country is not true. It has a monolingual majority, but it's important to realize how these perceptions are formed: European census' actually ask different questions about language than USA census' do, which lead Europe to have a higher overall incidence of bilingualism than the United States. I am willing to bet that if the European census asked the USA census' question (or vice-versa), we'd see very different statistics about language use on our respective consonants.

This is all in addition to obvious differences in geography and such that make it easier to be a monolingual in the USA than in Europe. Moving from California to New Mexico was about 1,200 miles, if I remember correctly. In that space, I crossed over one state (Arizona). Sometimes when I fly home, I cross over part of another (Nevada). In covering roughly the same amount of physical space across Europe, I could travel from London, England to Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina (1,278 miles), during which time I would pass through the sovereign nations of Belgium, Germany, Austria, Slovenia, and Croatia, each of which has its own official language or dialect, in addition to many minority languages. If we wanted to treat the United States similarly, I could claim that since I know for a fact there are speakers of many different languages in California, Arizona, and New Mexico (in addition to their official languages; I can pluralize that because in New Mexico we actually have two -- English and Spanish), there might actually be more diversity to be had in my American journey than in my European one, especially given the genetic distance between, say, Navajo and English when compared to Slovenian and Croatian, or of course the German dialects of Austria and Germany. Really, such diversity. Hoera voor Europa! Hura za Evropo! Húrra fyrir Evrópu! (Dutch/Slovenian/Icelandic...I could add more, but you get the point.)

So, y'know...don't break your arms patting yourselves on the back, Europe, O land of diversity (in white people), where the monolingual idea ultimately comes from (see, e.g., Edwards 2004 Multilingualism in the English-speaking world; it's tied to the nation-state, a quintessentially European concept). ;)
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2013, 05:05:23 PM »
^ I like being boring, so I fit in the good ole U. S. A. just fine. :police: You are correct, though, there is no reason to spend a lot of time on the geography of Europe or the U. S. A. unless you have a reason.  It may be good to know the major countries of Europe and look up the rest as needed.

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2013, 05:09:33 PM »
Am I the only person who doesn't find most of Europe or North America interesting enough to justify learning and retaining facts about its geography?

I like looking at maps when I have a few minutes to kill. I find it enjoyable, and I can also fool myself into thinking it's educational.

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2013, 05:42:49 PM »
There's probably a large degree of sarcasm in the above reply (or at least I hope there is...you really want to knock us because we don't have the wonder that is Eurovision to showcase our lovely native talent? Hahaha)

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2013, 05:56:20 PM »
Wow, this is interesting that some of you think in multiple languages, too. To be honest I can't tell if I think more in Romanian or English. Romanian is native, but I've also learned English early on and moved to Canada in my teens. I probably think in English more; it has become practical for me.

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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2013, 06:12:54 PM »
I would get 8 maybe. Definitely not more than 10.

Same here. American states are all pretty much the same anyway.

Yeah, basically just big blocks filled with white people.  Kind of like Europe, actually. ;D

No. In American states they all speak English, vote for the same two parties, pretty much have a shared history, watch the same shows, eat the same food (with a few exceptions) and listen to the same music. Not so in Europe.

That's debatable. It depends on one's perspective.
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Re: Americans Try To Place European Countries On A Map
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2013, 09:34:46 PM »
What language do you primarily think in?

English- specifically, British English with an Estuary accent. The language I grew up with, because I don't know any other language well enough to think in it.
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