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Offline OrthoNoob

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Forgiveness Phrases at Forgiveness Vespers
« on: November 18, 2013, 02:09:26 PM »
Is it proper for a layman to say 'The Lord forgives, and I forgive' in response to a request for forgiveness at Forgiveness Vespers? I've heard it done but it sounds vaguely clerical.
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Re: Forgiveness Phrases at Forgiveness Vespers
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 02:16:09 PM »
We follow indicative for us and imperative for God.
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Re: Forgiveness Phrases at Forgiveness Vespers
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 02:21:21 PM »
We follow indicative for us and imperative for God.

So...'I forgive, and may God forgive'?
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Re: Forgiveness Phrases at Forgiveness Vespers
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 02:22:02 PM »
We follow indicative for us and imperative for God.

So...'I forgive, and may God forgive'?

Sort of.
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Re: Forgiveness Phrases at Forgiveness Vespers
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 02:22:56 PM »
We follow indicative for us and imperative for God.

So...'I forgive, and may God forgive'?

Sort of.

We dont really have a third-person imperative in English (as I'm sure you're aware) so that's as close as I can figure out how to get.
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Re: Forgiveness Phrases at Forgiveness Vespers
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 02:54:20 PM »
eh, romanians only use the phrase at funerals. or when talking abiout the departed, as in " my aunt, may she be forgiven, could empty a bottle of palinka like nothing..."