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Offline GabrieltheCelt

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Re: NPR - To Stave Off Decline, Churches Attract New Members With Beer
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2013, 02:58:38 PM »
Third, the 'water into wine' miracle did not happen in a religious setting.  It certainly wasn't in a church setting because churches weren't around then.

It was a wedding where Jesus (and his disciples) and Mary were invited guests, not a gay civil union at the local courthouse.  Why attempt to read it in a purely secular way just because it wasn't within the four walls of a synagogue? 

 Because there's no indication that it was within the four walls of a synagogue.  The larger point I was making is that, except for wine, alcohol isn't a part of our religious services, which a wedding most certainly is.
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Re: NPR - To Stave Off Decline, Churches Attract New Members With Beer
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2013, 03:22:15 PM »
Third, the 'water into wine' miracle did not happen in a religious setting.  It certainly wasn't in a church setting because churches weren't around then.

It was a wedding where Jesus (and his disciples) and Mary were invited guests, not a gay civil union at the local courthouse.  Why attempt to read it in a purely secular way just because it wasn't within the four walls of a synagogue?  

 Because there's no indication that it was within the four walls of a synagogue.  The larger point I was making is that, except for wine, alcohol isn't a part of our religious services, which a wedding most certainly is.
plum brandy is for sure,  part of many orthodox services.
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Re: NPR - To Stave Off Decline, Churches Attract New Members With Beer
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2013, 03:35:27 PM »
The IOCC (International Orthodox Christian Charities) regularly hosts wine tastings at parishes.  Not quite the same thing, but seems like some here could be upset by this.  I was upset about this at my parish, but only because it was held on a Friday evening that was not a wine & oil day on the calendar.
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Re: NPR - To Stave Off Decline, Churches Attract New Members With Beer
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2013, 03:59:59 PM »
Third, the 'water into wine' miracle did not happen in a religious setting.  It certainly wasn't in a church setting because churches weren't around then.

It was a wedding where Jesus (and his disciples) and Mary were invited guests, not a gay civil union at the local courthouse.  Why attempt to read it in a purely secular way just because it wasn't within the four walls of a synagogue?  

 Because there's no indication that it was within the four walls of a synagogue.  The larger point I was making is that, except for wine, alcohol isn't a part of our religious services, which a wedding most certainly is.
plum brandy is for sure,  part of many orthodox services.

And wheat, wine, bread, and oil are blessed every Litia, which I can only assume occurs after Vespers on major feasts.
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