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Days of Heaven
« on: October 23, 2013, 04:39:16 PM »
I'm going to see Days of Heaven tonite. What do I need to know?

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 04:43:26 PM »
Quit ripping me off?
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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 04:57:12 PM »
 :P I promise I was planning to ask this for a couple of days now.

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Re: Days of Heaven
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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2013, 02:02:10 PM »
So that was basically a better version of The Tree of Life.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2013, 08:47:20 PM »
So that was basically a better version of The Tree of Life.

They are similar, for sure, Malik tends to revisit certain themes but I wouldn't see them as being the same movie.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 08:53:31 PM »
So that was basically a better version of The Tree of Life.

They are similar, for sure, Malik tends to revisit certain themes but I wouldn't see them as being the same movie.

After watching one of his films, I couldn't bear to see the second (Tree of Life). I swear I tried, like three times for Orthonorm's sake, but I couldn't get passed minute 15 or so.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 09:11:43 PM »
So that was basically a better version of The Tree of Life.

They are similar, for sure, Malik tends to revisit certain themes but I wouldn't see them as being the same movie.

After watching one of his films, I couldn't bear to see the second (Tree of Life). I swear I tried, like three times for Orthonorm's sake, but I couldn't get passed minute 15 or so.

The cosmogenesis/biogenesis/jurassic sequences didn't do it for me either.  It is worth skipping ahead.  I found the two brothers the most compelling.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 09:56:41 PM »
i have every intention of seeing Days of Heaven, but haven't done so yet.  Tree of Life, as I've said here before, left me crying almost from beginning to end.  And I'm not a crier. 
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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2013, 09:59:40 PM »
So that was basically a better version of The Tree of Life.

They are similar, for sure, Malik tends to revisit certain themes but I wouldn't see them as being the same movie.

After watching one of his films, I couldn't bear to see the second (Tree of Life). I swear I tried, like three times for Orthonorm's sake, but I couldn't get passed minute 15 or so.

How nice of you.

And I am with Ionnis, except I am a crier. Less as I get older I fear.
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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2013, 10:00:16 PM »
So that was basically a better version of The Tree of Life.

They are similar, for sure, Malik tends to revisit certain themes but I wouldn't see them as being the same movie.

After watching one of his films, I couldn't bear to see the second (Tree of Life). I swear I tried, like three times for Orthonorm's sake, but I couldn't get passed minute 15 or so.

The cosmogenesis/biogenesis/jurassic sequences didn't do it for me either.  It is worth skipping ahead.  I found the two brothers the most compelling.

If they just had skipped the dinos . . . or had done them better.
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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 10:00:37 PM »
i have every intention of seeing Days of Heaven, but haven't done so yet.  Tree of Life, as I've said here before, left me crying almost from beginning to end.  And I'm not a crier. 

I cried both times I've watched it.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 10:07:14 PM »
i have every intention of seeing Days of Heaven, but haven't done so yet.  Tree of Life, as I've said here before, left me crying almost from beginning to end.  And I'm not a crier. 

You've described yourself as 'somewhat of a bleeding heart' at one point.

"The New World" and "To the Wonder" are arguably Malick's worst.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 10:43:30 PM »
I thought Days of Heaven was a better movie than Tree of Life. Malik's movies are always visually stunning, and that made it impossible for me not to watch Tree of Life all the way through. But with Malik, sometimes the story and the acting seem to be afterthoughts. But he hit on all cylinders with The Thin Red Line.


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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 11:13:33 PM »
So that was basically a better version of The Tree of Life.

They are similar, for sure, Malik tends to revisit certain themes but I wouldn't see them as being the same movie.

After watching one of his films, I couldn't bear to see the second (Tree of Life). I swear I tried, like three times for Orthonorm's sake, but I couldn't get passed minute 15 or so.

The cosmogenesis/biogenesis/jurassic sequences didn't do it for me either.  It is worth skipping ahead.  I found the two brothers the most compelling.

Same here. Actually, the part that I found corny was the ending. That whole sequence should've been dropped. And Brad Pitt was terrible as usual.

But the kids were amazing.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2013, 11:15:42 PM »
The New World is worst?

Romaios...no.

I didn't get Tree Of Life either. Generational?
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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2013, 11:17:03 PM »
I thought Days of Heaven was a better movie than Tree of Life. Malik's movies are always visually stunning, and that made it impossible for me not to watch Tree of Life all the way through. But with Malik, sometimes the story and the acting seem to be afterthoughts. But he hit on all cylinders with The Thin Red Line.


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Days of Heaven sure won out in terms of the subtlety of how it got its point across. The Tree of Life just had too many voice-overs, Bible verses and obvious symbolism for my tastes.

I'm sortof a moderate minimalist when it comes to movies, art, etc.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2013, 11:22:58 PM »
The New World is worst?

Romaios...no.

Yes. Definitely. Disney's Pocahontas is way better.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2013, 11:28:27 PM »
The New World is worst?

Romaios...no.

Yes. Definitely. Disney's Pocahontas is way better.

Happily I've been spared both. I think Disney movies are what drove me into being the most misbehaved child in elementary school.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2013, 11:45:34 PM »
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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2013, 12:01:51 AM »
^^It doesn't compare to Disney, and it's too late anyways. At this age, the thing that gets me is other people in their twenties who still take pleasure in watching that stuff, especially the new "Pixar" nonsense. That stuff is the embodiment of evil and the root threat to our society.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2013, 12:02:27 AM »
The New World is worst?

Romaios...no.

Yes. Definitely. Disney's Pocahontas is way better.

I actually enjoyed The New World.  It coincided with a particular time in my life.  I don't know if my opinion would differ if the time was better, but it's the only time I saw it.  

I've gotta get to Tree of Life...I DVR'd it the other day having heard about it so much here.  
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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2013, 12:07:16 AM »
ever since i learned that  rod dreher watches malick in a complex ritual of spiritual masturbation, exercise, i mean,  it ruined it for me before i got a chance to see it. he's using malick along with jesus prayer and reminiscences of oysters cooked a la francaise.
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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2013, 12:09:31 AM »
^^It doesn't compare to Disney.

I meant to say even Disney was better.

Schlock and kitsch.  

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2013, 12:13:07 AM »
he's using malick along with jesus prayer and reminiscences of oysters cooked a la francaise.

That guy could really use a cilice and some whips for his devotions...  ::)

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2013, 12:13:50 AM »
^^It doesn't compare to Disney.

I meant to say even Disney was better.

Schlock and kitsch.  

Sure, but it doesn't have a huge cultural following.

And I doubt they spent millions of dollars to make those.

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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2013, 12:18:17 AM »
And I doubt they spent millions of dollars to make those.

If you mean Viennese porcelain, it was all the rage back in its day. Still is for some odd people: http://artist.christies.com/Vienna-Porcelain-Factory-56144.aspx

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2013, 12:22:32 AM »
And I doubt they spent millions of dollars to make those.

If you mean Viennese porcelain, it was all the rage back in its day. Still is for some odd people: http://artist.christies.com/Vienna-Porcelain-Factory-56144.aspx

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2013, 12:24:25 AM »
So that was basically a better version of The Tree of Life.

They are similar, for sure, Malik tends to revisit certain themes but I wouldn't see them as being the same movie.

It was a telemarketer.

What do you think were the thematic differences?
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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2013, 01:13:15 AM »
So that was basically a better version of The Tree of Life.

They are similar, for sure, Malik tends to revisit certain themes but I wouldn't see them as being the same movie.

It was a telemarketer.

What do you think were the thematic differences?

The family, especially the boys, in The Tree of Life is quite unlike lovers/sister in Days of Heaven.

You could boil them down to be about love, loyalty, betrayal, sin, death . . . but thats pretty much every movie.

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Re: Days of Heaven
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2013, 03:35:56 PM »
So that was basically a better version of The Tree of Life.

They are similar, for sure, Malik tends to revisit certain themes but I wouldn't see them as being the same movie.

It was a telemarketer.

What do you think were the thematic differences?

The family, especially the boys, in The Tree of Life is quite unlike lovers/sister in Days of Heaven.

You could boil them down to be about love, loyalty, betrayal, sin, death . . . but thats pretty much every movie.

OK. The main theme I'm seeing in both movies is a character who's looking for pure good and evil (or nature and grace) in a world where both are inextricably bound up. I think Malick is looking for meaning in that ambiguity. The Tree of Life does give the story a new dimension by adding the Father character as a sort of God-figure.

But I've been drumming this beat for years, so maybe it's a perspective issue. I'll think about it.