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I'm not really sure where to put this thread, but here it goes.  I was recently contacted by a recruiter to go to another company in my area.  The company is very highly regarded and I would get a huge boost in pay. It also has a much better corporate culture and opportunity for further advancement than what I currently have.  I have gone through the interview process and I received a job offer today.  This will unfortunately mean I will have much less time during the day for oc.net, but it will be a great career move for me.  I was given 24 hours to give them an answer.  I came home, discussed it with my wife and am going to take the job since from my perspective,  it is pretty much a no brainer.  My wife this evening asked if I had asked God if I should take the job.  I said no and she was quite horrified.  My question is, is this something I should be praying about?  I ask God every day that He will give me wisdom to make wise choices throughout my day in my morning prayers.  Do I just rest in the confidence that God brought this unsolicited into my lap and be thankful for it or should I be praying that He guide me keeping in mind that I only have 24 hours to wait for a response? I feel kind of silly if I already pretty much know I am going to take the job to then pray and ask God if I should take it. That pretty much ends with me saying "Yes, God wants me to do this" and pretending like I got some sign from God that I should take a new job. If I wait for God to tell me every major action that I need to take in my life, I think I would be paralyzed out of concern that I am misinterpreting or misunderstanding Him.

Anyone have any words of wisdom?  Also, if I am way over-thinking this, feel free to tell me to stop worrying about first world problems.  I won't be offended.  :laugh:

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Dude just take the job. /thread

Unless you needed to brag...
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I'm not really sure where to put this thread, but here it goes.  I was recently contacted by a recruiter to go to another company in my area.  The company is very highly regarded and I would get a huge boost in pay. It also has a much better corporate culture and opportunity for further advancement than what I currently have.  I have gone through the interview process and I received a job offer today.  This will unfortunately mean I will have much less time during the day for oc.net, but it will be a great career move for me.  I was given 24 hours to give them an answer.  I came home, discussed it with my wife and am going to take the job since from my perspective,  it is pretty much a no brainer.  My wife this evening asked if I had asked God if I should take the job.  I said no and she was quite horrified.  My question is, is this something I should be praying about?  I ask God every day that He will give me wisdom to make wise choices throughout my day in my morning prayers.  Do I just rest in the confidence that God brought this unsolicited into my lap and be thankful for it or should I be praying that He guide me keeping in mind that I only have 24 hours to wait for a response? I feel kind of silly if I already pretty much know I am going to take the job to then pray and ask God if I should take it. That pretty much ends with me saying "Yes, God wants me to do this" and pretending like I got some sign from God that I should take a new job. If I wait for God to tell me every major action that I need to take in my life, I think I would be paralyzed out of concern that I am misinterpreting or misunderstanding Him.

Anyone have any words of wisdom?  Also, if I am way over-thinking this, feel free to tell me to stop worrying about first world problems.  I won't be offended.  :laugh:

Sounds like you've answered your own questions (who doesn't?).

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Ask your priest.

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Dude just take the job. /thread

Unless you needed to brag...

Well, I did need to brag, but I needed to put it in the form of a narrative whereby there is conflict and eventual resolution.  It is so much more exciting that way.  ;D

I totally plan on taking the job.  I am more just curious if others would sit down and pray about such a thing or if they would just say "heck yes, give me the job"  (this is where I brag on my spirituality as I torment myself over how much prayer I should be exerting.  See, I can multitask my bragging.  BOOYAH!!!)
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I prayed after my employer offered me a full-time position.

I gave thanks to the Lord and asked Him to see me through the experience.

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I prayed after my employer offered me a full-time position.

I gave thanks to the Lord and asked Him to see me through the experience.
That seems like a healthy response.  I like it.  :)
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I ask God every day that He will give me wisdom to make wise choices throughout my day in my morning prayers. 

If I actually did this sincerely, faithfully, and daily, I don't know if I would spend a whole bunch of time praying over a job offer I had only twenty-four hours to decide on, I'd just do what you already described:

...rest in the confidence that God brought this unsolicited into my lap and be thankful for it...
 

It can't hurt to spend some time praying over it, of course, but it's not like you have two weeks to decide, so the time you spend won't be much.  In my own experience, I've found that things I can identify, at least in hindsight, as "God's will" were not necessarily clarified as such through "signs" or intuitions in prayer as much as through the way "life arranged itself".  Sometimes I'm thrown a curveball(s), and I don't know what to do with that, but other times it seems fairly clear.  If this happened to me, I think it would be clear.      
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Although you only have a short time to answer, yes, pray to the LORD and ask if you should be heading this direction.

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Of course God wants you to take the job. Why else would He have had it offered to you?
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God gave us free will so that we can use it. Go ahead. I don't believe God really cares what we do for a living provided that we're not doing anything sinful.

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See, I can multitask my bragging.  BOOYAH!!!)

I am not easily impressed, but I have to admit this was truly outstanding.  ;D
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Well, I accepted it this morning.  I did take Sol's advice and offered up a prayer of thanksgiving and a petition for continued guidance.

Is it just a protestant thing specifically or a Christian thing in general that many people expect God to give them specific answers or reassurance that they are doing the right thing when making significant life choices? I just feel uncomfortable with it. Maybe I have a wrong attitude, I don't know...
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I hope you did at least 1680 prostrations ( 70 each for the the 24 hours you were given to decide pray).

EDIT:  I was just going to ask if you prayed.
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I hope you did at least 1680 prostrations ( 70 each for the the 24 hours you were given to decide pray).

EDIT:  I was just going to ask if you prayed.
Psht.  70 times is for n00bs. I whipped out my 300 knot prayer rope and prayed and prostrated 300 times each hour.  Not that I'm bragging, but just sayin'...
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I hope you did at least 1680 prostrations ( 70 each for the the 24 hours you were given to decide pray).

EDIT:  I was just going to ask if you prayed.
Psht.  70 times is for n00bs. I whipped out my 300 knot prayer rope and prayed and prostrated 300 times each hour.  Not that I'm bragging, but just sayin'...
Pride cometh before the fall...so prostrations or falls?   :laugh:

300 knots....I laugh.  Couldn't spring for the Patriarchal 1000-knot?  To be extra holy and whatnot. ;D
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I hope you did at least 1680 prostrations ( 70 each for the the 24 hours you were given to decide pray).

EDIT:  I was just going to ask if you prayed.
Psht.  70 times is for n00bs. I whipped out my 300 knot prayer rope and prayed and prostrated 300 times each hour.  Not that I'm bragging, but just sayin'...
Pride cometh before the fall...so prostrations or falls?   :laugh:

300 knots....I laugh.  Couldn't spring for the Patriarchal 1000-knot?  To be extra holy and whatnot. ;D
My extreme humility did not allow for it.  ;)
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I hope you did at least 1680 prostrations ( 70 each for the the 24 hours you were given to decide pray).

EDIT:  I was just going to ask if you prayed.
Psht.  70 times is for n00bs. I whipped out my 300 knot prayer rope and prayed and prostrated 300 times each hour.  Not that I'm bragging, but just sayin'...
Pride cometh before the fall...so prostrations or falls?   :laugh:

300 knots....I laugh.  Couldn't spring for the Patriarchal 1000-knot?  To be extra holy and whatnot. ;D
My extreme humility did not allow for it.  ;)

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Well, I accepted it this morning.  I did take Sol's advice and offered up a prayer of thanksgiving and a petition for continued guidance.

Is it just a protestant thing specifically or a Christian thing in general that many people expect God to give them specific answers or reassurance that they are doing the right thing when making significant life choices? I just feel uncomfortable with it. Maybe I have a wrong attitude, I don't know...

Just remain humble, as others have humorously mentioned.   :)

Since I forgot, congratulations on the new position!!   ;D
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Well, I accepted it this morning.  I did take Sol's advice and offered up a prayer of thanksgiving and a petition for continued guidance.

Congratulations!

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Is it just a protestant thing specifically or a Christian thing in general that many people expect God to give them specific answers or reassurance that they are doing the right thing when making significant life choices? I just feel uncomfortable with it. Maybe I have a wrong attitude, I don't know...

I think it's a general Christian impulse to pray before making significant choices and to hope for direction.  But I also have problems with praying for specific issues and expecting God to give specific answers: sometimes, the way God orders life or allows life to be ordered is the way he answers.  But the way some people expect an answer in a specific way, or come back from prayer saying God spoke to them, God assured them, and so on...maybe they're all holier than I am, but I also wonder if they've already come to a certain decision on the matter, "go to God", and then come out affirming that God agrees with them so that they can feel better about it.  I've seen Protestants do that, and Catholics and Orthodox influenced by such ideas. 
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I was recently contacted by a recruiter to go to another company in my area.  The company is very highly regarded and I would get a huge boost in pay. It also has a much better corporate culture and opportunity for further advancement than what I currently have.  I have gone through the interview process and I received a job offer today.  This will unfortunately mean I will have much less time during the day for oc.net, but it will be a great career move for me.  I was given 24 hours to give them an answer.  I came home, discussed it with my wife and am going to take the job since from my perspective,  it is pretty much a no brainer. 

You said no to a job offer which would get you way more pay because you wouldn't be able to visit OC.net as much?

You, sir, are a hero.
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I was recently contacted by a recruiter to go to another company in my area.  The company is very highly regarded and I would get a huge boost in pay. It also has a much better corporate culture and opportunity for further advancement than what I currently have.  I have gone through the interview process and I received a job offer today.  This will unfortunately mean I will have much less time during the day for oc.net, but it will be a great career move for me.  I was given 24 hours to give them an answer.  I came home, discussed it with my wife and am going to take the job since from my perspective,  it is pretty much a no brainer.  

You said no to a job offer which would get you way more pay because you wouldn't be able to visit OC.net as much?

You, sir, are a hero.
Sadly no.  I have given way to corporate greed and took the offer. Augustine will be furious with me.  :(
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I was recently contacted by a recruiter to go to another company in my area.  The company is very highly regarded and I would get a huge boost in pay. It also has a much better corporate culture and opportunity for further advancement than what I currently have.  I have gone through the interview process and I received a job offer today.  This will unfortunately mean I will have much less time during the day for oc.net, but it will be a great career move for me.  I was given 24 hours to give them an answer.  I came home, discussed it with my wife and am going to take the job since from my perspective,  it is pretty much a no brainer. 

You said no to a job offer which would get you way more pay because you wouldn't be able to visit OC.net as much?

You, sir, are a hero.
Sadly no.  I have given way to corporate greed and took the offer. Augustine will be furious with me.  :(

I misread it. Oops. I knew my sight was declining but this is bad :/
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I have in-laws who always betray their feelings about your decisions with a  question about prayer. If they like what you’re doing, they congratulate you. If they don’t like it, they ask if you have really prayed about it. Those who respond in the negative are told, “Well, you really need to pray about this before you commit to it;” those who  respond in the affirmative are told, “You should pray some more and really listen to God.”
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I have in-laws who always betray their feelings about your decisions with a  question about prayer. If they like what you’re doing, they congratulate you. If they don’t like it, they ask if you have really prayed about it. Those who respond in the negative are told, “Well, you really need to pray about this before you commit to it;” those who  respond in the affirmative are told, “You should pray some more and really listen to God.”
lol, I know people like this as well.  Prayer seems like one of those things that can be used by people to manipulate others.  I guess that is part of the reason why her question rubbed me the wrong way a bit.
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Well, I accepted it this morning.  I did take Sol's advice and offered up a prayer of thanksgiving and a petition for continued guidance.

Congratulations!

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Is it just a protestant thing specifically or a Christian thing in general that many people expect God to give them specific answers or reassurance that they are doing the right thing when making significant life choices? I just feel uncomfortable with it. Maybe I have a wrong attitude, I don't know...

I think it's a general Christian impulse to pray before making significant choices and to hope for direction.  But I also have problems with praying for specific issues and expecting God to give specific answers: sometimes, the way God orders life or allows life to be ordered is the way he answers.  But the way some people expect an answer in a specific way, or come back from prayer saying God spoke to them, God assured them, and so on...maybe they're all holier than I am, but I also wonder if they've already come to a certain decision on the matter, "go to God", and then come out affirming that God agrees with them so that they can feel better about it.  I've seen Protestants do that, and Catholics and Orthodox influenced by such ideas. 

Agreed. We (my wife and I, both cradle and both with old country grandparents) were never taught by our parents or grandparents to expect God to give us specific answers to our prayers or to expect Him to tell us what to do. However, in our culture where politicians regularly assert a direct line to God, where sports teams give specific thanks to Jesus for scoring a goal and so on, I think the view of prayer from an Eastern Christian perspective (I say this because our grandparents were all Greek Catholic in Europe) is different. Praying for strength to deal with adversity, for a good outcome and always in thanksgiving  was the norm. Perhaps though, the difference is more semantics...

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I would thank God for the job opportunity and then accept the position.
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I would thank God for the job opportunity and then accept the position.
Yup.

I think I now know what happened to you lately. You have mellowed out. Which is a good thing.

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Who am I that God should give me direct answers, especially when I already don't do what He explicitly tells me to do? God's guidance of our lives is not something over which we have control, that is, we're not often going to get a direct answer or a sign, but even without that things work out or don't work out according to God's will. I would disagree that God doesn't care what we do. In a hard-to-define sense, our work is part of how we work out our salvation and something God has given us to do, like as He gives us our talents and responsibilities.
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Also, I think you should pray about it before you start threads about yourself.
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Also, I think you should pray about it before you start threads about yourself.

lol. Priceless!  ;D
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Mazal Tov, Triggie!!!!!!  More than that, I have nothing to had that won't end up (or start out) being inane. ;D ;D

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Also, I think you should pray about it before you start threads about yourself.

Well, there is this:

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O Lord Jesus Christ, Only-begotten Son of Thy Eternal Father, Thou hast said with Thy most holy lips: "Without Me, you can do nothing." My Lord and my God, in faith I embrace Thy words with my heart and soul, and bow before Thy goodness; help me, a sinner, to do in union with Thee this work which I am about to begin, in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

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What I fail to understand, though, is WHY you would sacrifice your time spent on this board for mere $$$$$$?  Not only will augustin717 be sorely disappointed in you, but, without you, O Triggie, our lives here will be immeasurably poorer, deficient in potent inanities and irrelevancies and digressions.  Whatever shall we DO??
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What I fail to understand, though, is WHY you would sacrifice your time spent on this board for mere $$$$$$?  Not only will augustin717 be sorely disappointed in you, but, without you, O Triggie, our lives here will be immeasurably poorer, deficient in potent inanities and irrelevancies and digressions.  Whatever shall we DO??


Only six $s?  That's not very much.
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What I fail to understand, though, is WHY you would sacrifice your time spent on this board for mere $$$$$$?  Not only will augustin717 be sorely disappointed in you, but, without you, O Triggie, our lives here will be immeasurably poorer, deficient in potent inanities and irrelevancies and digressions.  Whatever shall we DO??


Only six $s?  That's not very much.

What is the value of silver these days?
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What I fail to understand, though, is WHY you would sacrifice your time spent on this board for mere $$$$$$?  Not only will augustin717 be sorely disappointed in you, but, without you, O Triggie, our lives here will be immeasurably poorer, deficient in potent inanities and irrelevancies and digressions.  Whatever shall we DO??

On the positive side, there will be much fewer complaints about forumers who disrupt important threads with silliness.  ;D

I'm sure I'll still be around, I probably just won't be posting during the day.  :-\
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What I fail to understand, though, is WHY you would sacrifice your time spent on this board for mere $$$$$$?  Not only will augustin717 be sorely disappointed in you, but, without you, O Triggie, our lives here will be immeasurably poorer, deficient in potent inanities and irrelevancies and digressions.  Whatever shall we DO??

On the positive side, there will be much fewer complaints about forumers who disrupt important threads with silliness.  ;D

I'm sure I'll still be around, I probably just won't be posting during the day.  :-\

Better you should work at night and post during the day.

Forumers wouldn't dare complain about silliness.  Would they?? ??? ???
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I'm sure I'll still be around, I probably just won't be posting during the day.  :-\

I'll thank you on behalf of your wife, if you thank your employer on behalf of me.
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I'm sure I'll still be around, I probably just won't be posting during the day.  :-\

I'll thank you on behalf of your wife, if you thank your employer on behalf of me.
Oh, your such a peach.  :-*
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If you wish to be perfect, sell all of your things and give it to the poor, and FOLLOW ME

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not me but

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If you wish to be perfect, sell all of your things and give it to the poor, and FOLLOW ME

uh

not me but

well you know

...

My wife would probably have some strong opinions about me selling all our posessions.  ;)
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My wife would probably have some strong opinions about me selling all our posessions.  ;)

I thought she was Protestant, what's her problem with the Bible?  Did she suddenly become Orthodox?
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My wife would probably have some strong opinions about me selling all our posessions.  ;)

I thought she was Protestant, what's her problem with the Bible?  Did she suddenly become Orthodox?
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That is mean and I love it.

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On the flip side, what if SHE said, "Honey, I'm selling everything because the Bible says so."?
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On the flip side, what if SHE said, "Honey, I'm selling everything because the Bible says so."?
I would say, you can sell it all except for my TV so I can watch football and my computer so I can waste time on oc.net.  ;D
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On the flip side, what if SHE said, "Honey, I'm selling everything because the Bible says so."?
I would say, you can sell it all except for my TV so I can watch football and my computer so I can waste time on oc.net.  ;D
Assuming she hasn't already sold all your internet.  Those AOL Free 50 hour diskettes don't grown on trees.  Anymore.
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On the flip side, what if SHE said, "Honey, I'm selling everything because the Bible says so."?
I would say, you can sell it all except for my TV so I can watch football and my computer so I can waste time on oc.net.  ;D
Assuming she hasn't already sold all your internet.  Those AOL Free 50 hour diskettes don't grown on trees.  Anymore.

 :o

The horrors!!!!

Don't say such things, my poor heart can't take it.
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The cross you must bear, my friend.  Imagine:  she says, "I want to become an Orthodox Christian, but I don't want internet in the house."  What do you do?


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The cross you must bear, my friend.  Imagine:  she says, "I want to become an Orthodox Christian, but I don't want internet in the house."  What do you do?



I would get rid of the internet. Just a man, all alone with his thoughts.  With an Iphone. And an etrade app.

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LOL, gotta love the e*trade baby!
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