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Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« on: October 15, 2013, 04:43:10 PM »
Who are the mainline Protestants today?

Half a century ago, the denominations under the mainline umbrella [Episcopal, Presbyterian, Methodist, American Baptist, etc., churches] dominated the American faith landscape.  Now, after decades of declining numbers, only about one in five U.S. adults identifies with a mainline denomination.

Could replacing the “mainline” name help stem the slide?

Religion News Service took up the challenge, inviting votes and comments in an informal survey. A few of the suggestions given:

“Liberal Church”
“Grandma’s Church”
“The Refined Church” (more refined than reformed)
“Forward Christians”
“The Churches Formerly Known as Christian"
"The Syncretist Churches”
“The Unorthodox Churches"
“Red Letter Christian Church”
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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013, 05:15:35 PM »
I liked "Legacy Denominations". So true!  :laugh:

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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 05:53:54 PM »
Definitely vintage.

They don't even believe in Christianity in some cases, yet they continue operating as 'a Christian Church'.
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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013, 06:03:57 PM »
i dunno, judging by sheer numbers, all mainline prot churches in downtown Chicago draw in crowds, on any Sunday morning, that the orthodox would envy.
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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013, 08:10:09 PM »
Vintage or Vibrate?

Either way, it's gay.
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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 08:32:03 PM »
i dunno, judging by sheer numbers, all mainline prot churches in downtown Chicago draw in crowds, on any Sunday morning, that the orthodox would envy.
I go just so they can tell me what I want to hear. And the pastor there did a cartwheel in front of us, by moving in 3 directions he simulated the triune God.
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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2013, 08:34:22 PM »
i dunno, judging by sheer numbers, all mainline prot churches in downtown Chicago draw in crowds, on any Sunday morning, that the orthodox would envy.
I go just so they can tell me what I want to hear. And the pastor there did a cartwheel in front of us, by moving in 3 directions he simulated the triune God.

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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2013, 08:52:09 PM »
Would you still laugh if I told you that really happened? Someone even put up a negative review of that church on Google Maps describing the event.
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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2013, 08:55:17 PM »
Would you still laugh if I told you that really happened? Someone even put up a negative review of that church on Google Maps describing the event.

Exactly how does that make it less funny?

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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2013, 08:59:36 PM »
Would you still laugh if I told you that really happened? Someone even put up a negative review of that church on Google Maps describing the event.

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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2013, 09:00:37 PM »
i dunno, judging by sheer numbers, all mainline prot churches in downtown Chicago draw in crowds, on any Sunday morning, that the orthodox would envy.
I go just so they can tell me what I want to hear. And the pastor there did a cartwheel in front of us, by moving in 3 directions he simulated the triune God.

I'm out of it today, but I can only think of how doing a cartwheel is two directions. Your body rotating in a circle as you travel left or right... what's the third?
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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2013, 09:03:19 PM »
i dunno, judging by sheer numbers, all mainline prot churches in downtown Chicago draw in crowds, on any Sunday morning, that the orthodox would envy.
I go just so they can tell me what I want to hear. And the pastor there did a cartwheel in front of us, by moving in 3 directions he simulated the triune God.

I'm out of it today, but I can only think of how doing a cartwheel is two directions. Your body rotating in a circle as you travel left or right... what's the third?

You need to read the Holographic Universe and you would know there are like at least FOUR dimensions or something.

I just know the seventh looks like a donut when you render it in three dimensions and the book had a disappointing lack of those silver stickers that showed different stuff when you moved them back and forth in front of light.
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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2013, 09:05:24 PM »

I'm out of it today, but I can only think of how doing a cartwheel is two directions. Your body rotating in a circle as you travel left or right... what's the third?

The torque generated by the rotation according to the Right Hand Rule?

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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2013, 09:05:43 PM »
i dunno, judging by sheer numbers, all mainline prot churches in downtown Chicago draw in crowds, on any Sunday morning, that the orthodox would envy.
I go just so they can tell me what I want to hear. And the pastor there did a cartwheel in front of us, by moving in 3 directions he simulated the triune God.

I'm out of it today, but I can only think of how doing a cartwheel is two directions. Your body rotating in a circle as you travel left or right... what's the third?

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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2013, 09:06:28 PM »
i dunno, judging by sheer numbers, all mainline prot churches in downtown Chicago draw in crowds, on any Sunday morning, that the orthodox would envy.
I go just so they can tell me what I want to hear. And the pastor there did a cartwheel in front of us, by moving in 3 directions he simulated the triune God.

I'm out of it today, but I can only think of how doing a cartwheel is two directions. Your body rotating in a circle as you travel left or right... what's the third?


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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2013, 09:07:51 PM »
That reminds me, did we ever get a consensus on whether those were Cherubs or Thrones?

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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2013, 09:11:04 PM »
That reminds me, did we ever get a consensus on whether those were Cherubs or Thrones?

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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2013, 09:17:07 PM »
i dunno, judging by sheer numbers, all mainline prot churches in downtown Chicago draw in crowds, on any Sunday morning, that the orthodox would envy.
I go just so they can tell me what I want to hear. And the pastor there did a cartwheel in front of us, by moving in 3 directions he simulated the triune God.

I'm out of it today, but I can only think of how doing a cartwheel is two directions. Your body rotating in a circle as you travel left or right... what's the third?


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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2013, 09:20:47 PM »
Would you still laugh if I told you that really happened? Someone even put up a negative review of that church on Google Maps describing the event.

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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2013, 09:50:25 PM »
Would you still laugh if I told you that really happened? Someone even put up a negative review of that church on Google Maps describing the event.

I'd go if after doing the cartwheel the pastor had screamed, "Are you not entertained?"
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2013, 09:51:31 PM »
Would you still laugh if I told you that really happened? Someone even put up a negative review of that church on Google Maps describing the event.

I'd go if after doing the cartwheel the pastor had screamed, "Are you not entertained?"
Watch that youtube clip.

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Re: Mainline Protestants: Vintage or vibrant?
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2013, 01:07:53 AM »
Would you still laugh if I told you that really happened? Someone even put up a negative review of that church on Google Maps describing the event.

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Pastor Wes doing a cartwheel
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Ridiculous, but not surprising.
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