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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #270 on: October 15, 2013, 03:48:47 PM »
...just an inferior samosa.  :P

I love girl scout cookies!  8)

Those are Samoas, silly  :P

Samosas are the best things ever, though.

Fact: Samosa is the pet name I gave to a young man when he was a baby.

Samosas remind me of tongue-speaking Pentecostals, of Lucian and Paul of Samosata.

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #271 on: October 15, 2013, 04:33:00 PM »
Now that Indian is basically the only food you can get around here...

I want to tell you how blessed you are, but having had my share of bad Indian restaurant food, I'll just hope for the best.
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #272 on: October 15, 2013, 04:50:26 PM »
We had a Chaldean lituturgy at my parish a year or two ago, and I seem to remember Allah being used for God... Though it could be my memory playing tricks on me.


Also, the Chaldeans present were surprised that I couldn't understand the Liturgy. Apparently I look Middle Eastern.  :D
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #273 on: October 15, 2013, 05:13:23 PM »
Correction: Slavic Bog is related to Bhagavan.  ;)

Podkarpatska, remember what I said about my inner Slav?  :)

Your inner Slav ought to know that the bellybutton of the world is not in India, but inside the Carpathian horseshoe.  ;D

This explains so much......all that lint....

now that the thread has reached it's obvious conclusion (complete chaos), i would like to point out that the medical term for too much lint in the bellybutton
(when mixed with old skin and a drop of hardened dirt) is 'omphalolith'.
so, next time you meet someone who is afraid to clean it out properly in the shower/bath you can inform him/her that he/she has an omphalolith.

these can be found not only in east/central europe over a cold winter (washing may not be practical at -20 celcius) but also all over the world!
of course the term may differ outside of europe...
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #274 on: October 15, 2013, 05:20:36 PM »
Correction: Slavic Bog is related to Bhagavan.  ;)

Podkarpatska, remember what I said about my inner Slav?  :)

Your inner Slav ought to know that the bellybutton of the world is not in India, but inside the Carpathian horseshoe.  ;D

This explains so much......all that lint....

now that the thread has reached it's obvious conclusion (complete chaos), i would like to point out that the medical term for too much lint in the bellybutton
(when mixed with old skin and a drop of hardened dirt) is 'omphalolith'.
so, next time you meet someone who is afraid to clean it out properly in the shower/bath you can inform him/her that he/she has an omphalolith.

That would explain the presence of omphaloskepsis in eastern Europe.
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #275 on: October 15, 2013, 05:25:14 PM »
...just an inferior samosa.  :P

I love girl scout cookies!  8)

So do I, and samoas are my favourite.  I miss lemon chalets!  :'(
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #276 on: October 15, 2013, 05:26:58 PM »
now that the thread has reached it's obvious conclusion (complete chaos), i would like to point out that the medical term for too much lint in the bellybutton
(when mixed with old skin and a drop of hardened dirt) is 'omphalolith'.
so, next time you meet someone who is afraid to clean it out properly in the shower/bath you can inform him/her that he/she has an omphalolith.

That would explain the presence of omphaloskepsis in eastern Europe.

Yeah, we're all a bunch of navel-gazers around here. "To pull or not to pull the omphalo-plug?" - that is the question.  :laugh:

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #277 on: October 15, 2013, 05:28:02 PM »
Samosas are the best things ever, though.

Samosa chaat is even better! 
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #278 on: October 15, 2013, 05:29:14 PM »
I don't know about bellybuttons, but I know the proper order of things.  Anything you can do we can do better.  For example, the pierogi...just an inferior samosa.  :P

My Chinese friends would beg to differ, as would the Italians......and anyone else whose indigenous foods include stuffed pasta pockets of a sort!!

Chinese and Italians prefer pierogis to samosas?  Fie on them!  :P
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #279 on: October 15, 2013, 05:41:11 PM »
now i am craving poppadums and lime pickle...

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #280 on: October 15, 2013, 05:43:58 PM »
Just for funsies, I checked out an Arab orthodox website that specializes in Byzantine chant and wouldn't you know it: every hymn with the word "God" in it has the word "Allah" in Arabic versions of the hymn. For example, at Orthros for "God is The Lord" in Grave mode.

Will Theophilos please drop his prelest now and stop channeling the same spirits possessing JoshuaIsIam?

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #281 on: October 15, 2013, 06:06:31 PM »

Will Theophilos please drop his prelest now and stop channeling the same spirits possessing JoshuaIsIam?

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #282 on: October 15, 2013, 06:14:48 PM »
Just for funsies, I checked out an Arab orthodox website that specializes in Byzantine chant and wouldn't you know it: every hymn with the word "God" in it has the word "Allah" in Arabic versions of the hymn. For example, at Orthros for "God is The Lord" in Grave mode.

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Same also in the Coptic Orthodox church (a church of mainly native Arabic speakers), as you can see by comparing the texts of the Tenermakarizon part of Vespers for the month of Kiahk (or many other hymns) in English, Coptic, and Arabic. Where English has "God", as in the line "and God has reconciled with us once again", Coptic has "Efnouti" (a Efnouti hotpen erof enkesop), and Arabic has "Allah" ( وأصلحنا الله مره أخرى).
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #283 on: October 15, 2013, 06:18:16 PM »

Same also in the Coptic Orthodox church (a church of mainly native Arabic speakers), as you can see by comparing the texts of the Tenermakarizon part of Vespers for the month of Kiahk (or many other hymns) in English, Coptic, and Arabic. Where English has "God", as in the line "and God has reconciled with us once again", Coptic has "Efnouti" (a Efnouti hotpen erof enkesop), and Arabic has "Allah" ( وأصلحنا الله مره أخرى).

Why don't you also worship Allat, who was Allah's daughter?  ::)
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #284 on: October 15, 2013, 06:25:27 PM »
Why don't you understand the difference between the name of something in a given language and the theology behind the use of the name? I'm perfectly fine worshiping Allah without becoming confused as to who or what I'm referring to when I use that name (to the extent that I do; I don't really use Arabic in worship unless it is giving responses or singing hymns in church, since I'm not a native Arabphone). I am sorry that you have become confused, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us have. Worshiping Allah is Orthodox for those Christians in Arabic-speaking cultures. I similarly do not shy away from Dios, Deus, Bog, etc. A rose by any other name, y'know? It's the theology behind it that makes the difference, as there are only so many names for God. Maybe you should work on your own theology before attempting to criticize mine or others' based on such a simplistic objection?
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #285 on: October 15, 2013, 06:27:37 PM »
This thread is getting us nowhere xD
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« Reply #286 on: October 15, 2013, 06:29:17 PM »
Why don't you understand the difference between the name of something in a given language and the theology behind the use of the name? I'm perfectly fine worshiping Allah without becoming confused as to who or what I'm referring to when I use that name (to the extent that I do; I don't really use Arabic in worship unless it is giving responses or singing hymns in church, since I'm not a native Arabphone). I am sorry that you have become confused, but that doesn't mean that the rest of us have. Worshiping Allah is Orthodox for those Christians in Arabic-speaking cultures. I similarly do not shy away from Dios, Deus, Bog, etc. A rose by any other name, y'know? It's the theology behind it that makes the difference, as there are only so many names for God. Maybe you should work on your own theology before attempting to criticize mine or others' based on such a simplistic objection?

I wish you had simply answered my question.  ::)
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« Reply #287 on: October 15, 2013, 06:29:56 PM »
This thread is getting us nowhere xD

because it is about Allah  ;D
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« Reply #288 on: October 15, 2013, 06:30:26 PM »
This thread is getting us nowhere xD

That's not quite right...I do believe the conductor just said 'Now arriving at the Square One Station, all aboard'

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #289 on: October 15, 2013, 06:30:55 PM »
Why don't you also worship Allat, who was Allah's daughter?  ::)

Because she's a woman.  We don't worship women, we venerate them.  
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #290 on: October 15, 2013, 06:31:24 PM »
This thread is getting us nowhere xD

It shows what the overwhelming consensus is here.
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #291 on: October 15, 2013, 06:32:49 PM »
This thread is getting us nowhere xD

because it is about Allah  ;D

That post was directed at you, because you aren't hearing us.

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« Reply #292 on: October 15, 2013, 06:33:35 PM »
Why don't you also worship Allat, who was Allah's daughter?  ::)

Because she's a woman.  We don't worship women, we venerate them.  

You worship Allah because he is male?  ;D
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« Reply #293 on: October 15, 2013, 06:37:35 PM »
Why don't you also worship Allat, who was Allah's daughter?  ::)

Because she's a woman.  We don't worship women, we venerate them.  

You worship Allah because he is male?  ;D

Yes.  Is there any other reason?
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« Reply #294 on: October 15, 2013, 06:43:43 PM »
This is my final post on this issue:

I shall never pray to Allah or invoke him because I always obey the commandment in Exodus 3:15 and never submit to foreign gods (Allah, Allat, Al-uzzat whatever)

No matter what happens, I shall never pray with people who utter this word in their worship and never get any of the sacraments from a church where that word is uttered.

May Adonai YHWH bless and protect all of His children!

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« Reply #295 on: October 15, 2013, 06:49:29 PM »
I am almost certain that this will be a violation of canon law.
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« Reply #296 on: October 15, 2013, 06:53:00 PM »
This is my final post on this issue:

I shall never pray to Allah or invoke him because I always obey the commandment in Exodus 3:15 and never submit to foreign gods (Allah, Allat, Al-uzzat whatever)

No matter what happens, I shall never pray with people who utter this word in their worship and never get any of the sacraments from a church where that word is uttered.

May Adonai YHWH bless and protect all of His children!

 :-X  :-X  :-X

I would like to see you and YiM debate what to call each Biblical character.
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #297 on: October 15, 2013, 06:58:14 PM »
This is my final post on this issue:

I shall never pray to Allah or invoke him because I always obey the commandment in Exodus 3:15 and never submit to foreign gods (Allah, Allat, Al-uzzat whatever)

No matter what happens, I shall never pray with people who utter this word in their worship and never get any of the sacraments from a church where that word is uttered.

May Adonai YHWH bless and protect all of His children!

 :-X  :-X  :-X

I would like to see you and YiM debate what to call each Biblical character.
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #298 on: October 15, 2013, 07:02:53 PM »
This is my final post on this issue:

I shall never pray to Allah or invoke him because I always obey the commandment in Exodus 3:15 and never submit to foreign gods (Allah, Allat, Al-uzzat whatever)

No matter what happens, I shall never pray with people who utter this word in their worship and never get any of the sacraments from a church where that word is uttered.

May Adonai YHWH bless and protect all of His children!

 :-X  :-X  :-X

I would like to see you and YiM debate what to call each Biblical character.
Theophilos and YiM debating would be the ultimate dream come true since neither of them can comprehend anything that anyone else is saying so it would degenerate into mass chaos. Hilarity would ensue.  :laugh:
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« Reply #299 on: October 15, 2013, 07:06:36 PM »
My furby analogy stands....

Furbish- This is the term for the special language spoken by the Furbys. When you first get a Furby, they will speak mainly Furbish and be quite difficult to understand, but as your Furby develops, they will speak more English and less Furbish. When fully developed, Furbys will speak roughly 80% English and 20% Furbish.

Why Furbys and not Furbies?
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« Reply #300 on: October 15, 2013, 07:09:03 PM »
Theophilos and YiM debating would be the ultimate dream come true since neither of them can comprehend anything that anyone else is saying so it would degenerate into mass chaos. Hilarity would ensue.  :laugh:
If we can break down their argument into a flow chart that would be epic.

It would probably be the greatest circular flow chart ever made.

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« Reply #301 on: October 15, 2013, 07:09:56 PM »
I still have my old furby from the late 90s. Annoying little brat.
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #302 on: October 15, 2013, 07:11:47 PM »
...just an inferior samosa.  :P

I love girl scout cookies!  8)

Those are Samoas, silly  :P

Samosas are the best things ever, though.

Fact: Samosa is the pet name I gave to a young man when he was a baby.

Samosas remind me of tongue-speaking Pentecostals, of Lucian and Paul of Samosata.

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #303 on: October 15, 2013, 07:12:11 PM »
My furby analogy stands....

Furbish- This is the term for the special language spoken by the Furbys. When you first get a Furby, they will speak mainly Furbish and be quite difficult to understand, but as your Furby develops, they will speak more English and less Furbish. When fully developed, Furbys will speak roughly 80% English and 20% Furbish.

Why Furbys and not Furbies?

I didn't write that - I just quoted from the "Furby Instruction Manual" or whatever it's called.

That looks like a 20% Furbish plural, though.  :P

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #304 on: October 15, 2013, 07:13:22 PM »
...just an inferior samosa.  :P

I love girl scout cookies!  8)

Those are Samoas, silly  :P

Samosas are the best things ever, though.

Fact: Samosa is the pet name I gave to a young man when he was a baby.

Samosas remind me of tongue-speaking Pentecostals, of Lucian and Paul of Samosata.

Do they produce evil, heretical after-effects for you?
:laugh:  Probably depends on how many you drink, I suppose.
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« Reply #305 on: October 15, 2013, 07:15:14 PM »
I still have my old furby from the late 90s. Annoying little brat.
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« Reply #306 on: October 15, 2013, 07:15:52 PM »
I miss the days when Judaizers were ruthlessly persecuted.
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« Reply #307 on: October 15, 2013, 07:19:08 PM »
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Do they produce evil, heretical after-effects for you?

I've never tried any, but the name sure doesn't sound appetizing at all to me. Unlike pierogi...

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« Reply #308 on: October 15, 2013, 07:20:45 PM »
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I've never tried any, but the name sure doesn't sound appetizing at all to me. Unlike pierogi...

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #309 on: October 15, 2013, 07:21:59 PM »
Here is a pic of Theophilus 10 yrs from now.  ;D

Guys! They're not intercoursing. It's just an unfortunate angle.

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #310 on: October 15, 2013, 07:24:58 PM »
I would trust that man with my life to answer all of my religious doubts regarding Islam.

Just look at the paint palette hanging around his neck that seems to be encrusted in jewels.

Then the chef's hat is a nice touch.
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #311 on: October 15, 2013, 07:26:37 PM »
They're the best things your tastebuds have never tried. Best things ever!

Maybe, but my ear-drums tell me otherwise.

Sort of like Allah irritates YHWHphilos, while the Tetragrammaton is music to his years and "sweeter than honey to his mouth"...

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #312 on: October 15, 2013, 07:33:02 PM »
They're the best things your tastebuds have never tried. Best things ever!

Maybe, but my ear-drums tell me otherwise.

Sort of like Allah irritates YHWHphilos, while the Tetragrammaton is music to his years and "sweeter than honey to his mouth"...

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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #313 on: October 15, 2013, 07:33:38 PM »
They're the best things your tastebuds have never tried. Best things ever!

Maybe, but my ear-drums tell me otherwise.

Sort of like Allah irritates YHWHphilos, while the Tetragrammaton is music to his years and "sweeter than honey to his mouth"...
YHWHphilos.....LOL!!!!
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Re: Good news: No Allah for Christians!
« Reply #314 on: October 15, 2013, 07:36:26 PM »
They're the best things your tastebuds have never tried. Best things ever!

Maybe, but my ear-drums tell me otherwise.

Sort of like Allah irritates YHWHphilos, while the Tetragrammaton is music to his years and "sweeter than honey to his mouth"...
I either am easily amused tonight or there have been a high numbers of really funny posts, because I have been laughing quite a bit all all the recent posts.  :laugh:
Guys! They're not intercoursing. It's just an unfortunate angle.