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« on: October 11, 2013, 07:33:35 AM »

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I don't understand why some reply to posts with anything but what the topic is about. Some even just post a reply that only complains about the topic for various reasons and some of those are to would-be converts. I mean if a topic bothers you because you've seen it before or because you think its stupid then why even read it? Why not just ignore it all together? We're supposed to be Christ-like and I just believe that our reply's should reflect that.

Stepping down off of soap box......
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2013, 07:36:13 AM »

Warning, rant following.....

I don't understand why some reply to posts with anything but what the topic is about. Some even just post a reply that only complains about the topic for various reasons and some of those are to would-be converts. I mean if a topic bothers you because you've seen it before or because you think its stupid then why even read it? Why not just ignore it all together? We're supposed to be Christ-like and I just believe that our reply's should reflect that.

Stepping down off of soap box......

Post in Convert Issues where the rules of discussion are more to what you appear to expect from others. Just don't tell robe your expectations with the mantle of Christ.

I literally work on a soap box, so I am rarely off one.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2013, 07:39:05 AM »

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Just don't tell robe your expectations with the mantle of Christ.

Its not my expectations of being Christ-like that anyone should be concerned with.

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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2013, 07:42:31 AM »

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Just don't tell robe your expectations with the mantle of Christ.

Its not my expectations of being Christ-like that anyone should be concerned with.
No, it's your definition of Christlike that people should be worried about.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2013, 10:39:55 AM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2013, 10:48:21 AM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.
Yep! And peppered with mockery and derision for good measure, too!

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2013, 11:04:28 AM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Of course, but in a live group dynamic (at least as I remember them since they don't occur much anymore), silence would often fall over the group as all eyes would gaze at once upon the one with the snappy non-sequitors or attempts at humor. The collective power of the evil eyes of the group glaring at the offender would clearly project a message of 'Are you kidding me?'

It's tougher to keep it up live and in person for most of us. Keyboards or tablets make it simple.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2013, 12:03:39 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Of course, but in a live group dynamic (at least as I remember them since they don't occur much anymore), silence would often fall over the group as all eyes would gaze at once upon the one with the snappy non-sequitors or attempts at humor. The collective power of the evil eyes of the group glaring at the offender would clearly project a message of 'Are you kidding me?'

It's tougher to keep it up live and in person for most of us. Keyboards or tablets make it simple.

I love these theories. I am rather "popular" and I ain't much different than I am here. People here tend to be a bit more wound up than the lot I meet. In fact, I am "worse" in person, whatever that means.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2013, 12:30:17 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.
Yep! And peppered with mockery and derision for good measure, too!

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 I think you two are on to something.  Conversations are always derailed in real life; it's weird to think that wouldn't happen online.  A word or comment will spark someone's memory and they'll want to share it and before you know it, we're talking about the migration patterns of lemming when the topic was transubstantiation. Smiley The only thing that bothers me is the mockery and derision.  And I'm one of the one's that brings it (although I've resolved to curb it).  But even then, a responder may be just teasing a poster but because we can't see expressions or hear vocal tones, it's all too easy to misunderstand.  I have no answers but to pray for the strength to overlook others' weaknesses and to work on ourselves.  Undecided
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2013, 12:38:06 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.
Yep! And peppered with mockery and derision for good measure, too!

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 I think you two are on to something.  Conversations are always derailed in real life; it's weird to think that wouldn't happen online.  A word or comment will spark someone's memory and they'll want to share it and before you know it, we're talking about the migration patterns of lemming when the topic was transubstantiation. Smiley The only thing that bothers me is the mockery and derision.  And I'm one of the one's that brings it (although I've resolved to curb it).  But even then, a responder may be just teasing a poster but because we can't see expressions or hear vocal tones, it's all too easy to misunderstand.  I have no answers but to pray for the strength to overlook others' weaknesses and to work on ourselves.  Undecided

You are probably correct that without the visual cues or vocal  tones or body language to accompany off-putting or seemingly irrelevant remarks (emoticons are cheesy and do not do the same) it is tough to understand what some of us mean. An interjection of wit or an off-putting comment in person can often place a derailed conversation back on line. So, I suppose putting up with stuff we don't always get is part of the quirky charm of this site as opposed to some other sites which are either always histrionic or dreadfully dull and pedantic.

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2013, 12:39:45 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Of course, but in a live group dynamic (at least as I remember them since they don't occur much anymore), silence would often fall over the group as all eyes would gaze at once upon the one with the snappy non-sequitors or attempts at humor. The collective power of the evil eyes of the group glaring at the offender would clearly project a message of 'Are you kidding me?'

It's tougher to keep it up live and in person for most of us. Keyboards or tablets make it simple.

I love these theories. I am rather "popular" and I ain't much different than I am here. People here tend to be a bit more wound up than the lot I meet. In fact, I am "worse" in person, whatever that means.
I express my thoughts much better in writing than in speech.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013, 12:44:48 PM »


You have to admit that there are a few posters who simply love to belittle others at any and every opportunity they get.

It's not part of fruitful discussion.  In fact, it closes down the discussion because the other party is now humiliated, angered, or simply intimidated from replying further.

Being nice to someone, speaking politely, not belittling others,....is not a sign of weakness. 

Being rude and obnoxious is not a sign of intelligence or superiority.
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You have to admit that there are a few posters who simply love to belittle others at any and every opportunity they get.

It's not part of fruitful discussion.  In fact, it closes down the discussion because the other party is now humiliated, angered, or simply intimidated from replying further.

Being nice to someone, speaking politely, not belittling others,....is not a sign of weakness. 

Being rude and obnoxious is not a sign of intelligence or superiority.

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The 'off topicness' stuff is just part of a discussion board.

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You have to admit that there are a few posters who simply love to belittle others at any and every opportunity they get.

It's not part of fruitful discussion.  In fact, it closes down the discussion because the other party is now humiliated, angered, or simply intimidated from replying further.

Being nice to someone, speaking politely, not belittling others,....is not a sign of weakness. 

Being rude and obnoxious is not a sign of intelligence or superiority.

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You have to admit that there are a few posters who simply love to belittle others at any and every opportunity they get.

It's not part of fruitful discussion.  In fact, it closes down the discussion because the other party is now humiliated, angered, or simply intimidated from replying further.

Being nice to someone, speaking politely, not belittling others,....is not a sign of weakness. 

Being rude and obnoxious is not a sign of intelligence or superiority.

A voice of reason in an unreasonable and infantile age.

Quite true and in a real conversation, it is much easier to 'freeze' a jerk with a good "middle school librarian" stare, a few choice words and a sigh. 
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2013, 02:03:16 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2013, 02:15:41 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2013, 02:22:01 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

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Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2013, 02:27:12 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2013, 02:27:36 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

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Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

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Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

our minds just work faster....Wink

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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2013, 02:40:54 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

our minds just work faster....Wink

Uhhh............. Cheesy

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Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

our minds just work faster....Wink

Uhhh............. Cheesy

You can do it!  I know you can.  Snappy comeback, GO!

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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2013, 02:43:07 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

our minds just work faster....Wink

Uhhh............. Cheesy

You can do it!  I know you can.  Snappy comeback, GO!

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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2013, 02:45:44 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

our minds just work faster....Wink

Uhhh............. Cheesy

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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2013, 02:47:52 PM »

And now the 'why does everything always go off topic' topic, has gone off topic.



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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2013, 02:48:47 PM »

*flings booger at topic*
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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2013, 02:50:42 PM »

*flings booger at topic*

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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2013, 02:51:07 PM »

And now the 'why does everything always go off topic' topic, has gone off topic.





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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2013, 03:18:23 PM »

And now the 'why does everything always go off topic' topic, has gone off topic.





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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2013, 03:21:38 PM »

Pathetic. Huh
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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2013, 03:25:30 PM »


The ultimate subject of all conversations.
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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2013, 03:30:26 PM »

Pathetic. Huh
Huh?  Huh
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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2013, 03:30:59 PM »


The ultimate subject of all conversations.
Wait, did I wander into the random postings thread without knowing it?  Wink
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2013, 03:31:59 PM »

+1  Huh
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2013, 03:33:43 PM »


The ultimate subject of all conversations.
Wait, did I wander into the random postings thread without knowing it?  Wink

Uhhh................... Cheesy  "Religious" is the new Random.
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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2013, 03:38:16 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

our minds just work faster....Wink

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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2013, 03:39:42 PM »

Of course, it is sometimes annoying but my gosh, it's a conversation, isn't it? Even if it is online and not face-to-face. I don't really feel like it's up to me to dictate how other people talk, and sometimes you can learn something interesting, even if the topic goes way off. I tend to say whatever pops into my head anyway; things remind me of other things and sometimes it can be a bit confusing for anyone who's conversing with me, in real life.

Sounds a lot like what my beloved wife does!  Maybe it's a wimmen thing.  Grin

our minds just work faster....Wink

It's true. laugh

I'm not so sure it's that women's minds work faster as it is that y'all just aren't listening!

You're not my wife, are you? Grin Shocked
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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2013, 03:40:02 PM »

Another one thread why this board is bad?
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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2013, 04:17:06 PM »

Another one thread why this board is bad?

Okay, here's your chance to make it "better".....http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,54184.new.html#new
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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2013, 06:56:55 PM »

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Okay, here's your chance to make it "better".....http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,54184.new.html#new

I don't think the boards bad, if I did I wouldn't hang around. I just don't understand when some are told that what they're replying is offensive why they shrug their shoulders and ignore them. I'm not saying everyone needs to be a people pleaser just civil. Of course the very people this thread speaks of will probably continue to poke fun though.

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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2013, 07:37:42 PM »

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Okay, here's your chance to make it "better".....http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,54184.new.html#new

I don't think the boards bad, if I did I wouldn't hang around. I just don't understand when some are told that what they're replying is offensive why they shrug their shoulders and ignore them. I'm not saying everyone needs to be a people pleaser just civil. Of course the very people this thread speaks of will probably continue to poke fun though.



 Some members say the most egregious and stupid things without thinking of the other person.  I oughtta know; I'm one of them.  But I'm determined that no matter what someone says that might irk me, I'm going to be kind and civil.  At least I'm going to try my best.  I even wrote a song about it called "Kindness Back".

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« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2013, 07:48:19 PM »

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Okay, here's your chance to make it "better".....http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,54184.new.html#new

I don't think the boards bad, if I did I wouldn't hang around. I just don't understand when some are told that what they're replying is offensive why they shrug their shoulders and ignore them. I'm not saying everyone needs to be a people pleaser just civil. Of course the very people this thread speaks of will probably continue to poke fun though.


I would say that I am aware of my own status as one of giving and taking quite a bit on this board.  Most of it is in good fun, but there are occasions when I get irritated with someone and say something that I probably shouldn't.  That being said, there are also those here who have a tendency to get rather melodramatic about things that they perceive to be offensive.  As a result, I tend to look more at who is telling me they are offended and then evaluate whether what I said was offensive.  There are people here that I value their opinions a great deal and there are people here that I have little respect for their opinions.  That isn't to say I hate the person, just that I find that they have a high level of immaturity, self-love, or similar that does not resonate well with me.

Also, oftentimes what you see as rudeness is the culmination of a rather long relationship between two people or a group of people. I read some of the things that I have responded to others in earlier posts and think, "wow, that came off rather harsh", but at the time, it was more just banter and matching of wits than anything else...

Could the boards be more civil?  Yes, probably so.  Could they be more inviting to newcomers and inquirers in particularly? I would say definitely so. I think if there is one thing that I would change it would be the coldness that is displayed to people who are interested in Orthodoxy, but haven't really taken any concrete steps.  All too often do I see inside jokes and banter thrown around in those threads, and that probably should not take place.  In all fairness, I am probably guilty of doing that myself, so I am pointing at myself on that as much or more than at anyone else.
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