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I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« on: October 11, 2013, 04:09:00 AM »
I am always attacking them for their faults because I don't like having to give account to them for my spending or what study I did or anything else or them trying to change me in some manner to watch the news, to mingle with people, and to know the streets of the road
I don't like them forcing me to trust them with my salvation. I have attacked my dad for not reading the bible often even though he has work to do.
I feel it would make sense for them to be suicidal
I feel excessive guilt
too much shame to approach my parents sometimes
I am sorry but I can not keep my spirituality to myself because even when I try to their spirit is provoked to change me
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2013, 05:15:36 AM »
Parents have an amazing love for their children. Many parent-child relationships really one one the best examples of God's love for us.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2013, 05:21:55 AM »
Thanks for replying. I recognise you from tasbeha.org :)

Thanks for saying what you could. I don't know if anyone can help me but myself but I thought someone might convince me to stop this behaviour. But I will try and I think I can get better if I try harder

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2013, 05:31:25 AM »
Thanks for replying. I recognise you from tasbeha.org :)

Thanks for saying what you could. I don't know if anyone can help me but myself but I thought someone might convince me to stop this behaviour. But I will try and I think I can get better if I try harder


mike,

Hello, I am a terrible person. Ask around. That being said, I used to be a horrible person, so I know about improvement.

Sorry, but I am a little confused by your posts. You sound like you are have some troubling times, but I am not sure what behavior specifically you would like to change.

Often trying to change can one of the worst ways to do so, so if you would like to be specific, I might be able to help you go from horrible to terrible. A modest proposition, but I am feeling a little less grandiose than I normally do.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2013, 06:02:28 AM »
I am always attacking them for their faults because I don't like having to give account to them for my spending or what study I did or anything else or them trying to change me in some manner to watch the news, to mingle with people, and to know the streets of the road
I don't like them forcing me to trust them with my salvation. I have attacked my dad for not reading the bible often even though he has work to do.
I feel it would make sense for them to be suicidal
I feel excessive guilt
too much shame to approach my parents sometimes
I am sorry but I can not keep my spirituality to myself because even when I try to their spirit is provoked to change me
So, stop being this way.  Growing up is tough, but it's easier if you face it head on.  Admit your faults, make apologies and improve yourself.

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2013, 06:20:59 AM »
did you delete my reply to orthonorm?
I have it saved in my email.
If you did not delete I would like to put it back if I can but I want an explanation why to whoever did
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2013, 07:03:35 AM »
did you delete my reply to orthonorm?
I have it saved in my email.
If you did not delete I would like to put it back if I can but I want an explanation why to whoever did

Mike, it likely didn't post. It happens sometimes.

Just copy and paste it again.

I've noticed you seem worried about breaking rules or something around here. It's OK to make mistakes. You'll hear about lotsa of mistakes you are not even making.

Just make a new post buddy.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2013, 07:05:08 AM »
I am always attacking them for their faults because I don't like having to give account to them for my spending or what study I did or anything else or them trying to change me in some manner to watch the news, to mingle with people, and to know the streets of the road
I don't like them forcing me to trust them with my salvation. I have attacked my dad for not reading the bible often even though he has work to do.
I feel it would make sense for them to be suicidal
I feel excessive guilt
too much shame to approach my parents sometimes
I am sorry but I can not keep my spirituality to myself because even when I try to their spirit is provoked to change me
So, stop being this way.  Growing up is tough, but it's easier if you face it head on.  Admit your faults, make apologies and improve yourself.

You must be some detective given the fact you know the exact nature of Mike's problems and how specific you were in addressing them.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2013, 07:10:25 AM »
Thanks the post was

well I would like to not be annoyed when my dad tells me I must stop getting distracted with religious things and to do all that after uni
I get annoyed because I believe part of why I am lazy with my work because I don't give time to religion.
He blames me for having a conscience about things. If I feel I am making others stumble if they see me at a casino even if it is not wrong he does not show me why it is not wrong. He says I am only responsible for myself
I base all my problems on jesus words and the bible but he does not like me even talking about the bible too much but I dont think I am talking too much but he acts like it is
He wants me to trust my souls salvation to him (though he has not said that)
I do want to finish uni but I don't want to be a bad example to those who can not finish uni. My main passion is not to finish uni but to do justice to those who are oppressed by heavy burdens at university. I want my life to be joyful and teach not for people to look down on my little achievements and tell me I chose a little success over my eternal inheritance if I dont become a monk or go to church after uni all the time (but I will go to church if I can manage and if I have to). I want to encourage people to work hard "For in all labor there is profit but idle chatter leads to poverty"
I want to be able to understand spiritual things not to only be occupied by work "For man does not live by bread alone but by every word of God" my dad does not care I mention that
also Jesus said "do not labor for the food that perishes but for the food that the Son of Man will give you for God the Father has set His seal on Him"
I want to work for the glory of God
My dad cares nothing for my spiritual ambitions
He is in fact pretty rich of the top 1000 in australia
and I will never gain his respect if I do not show I can be independent
for Jesus said "Seek first the kingdom and you will be greater than Solomon"
he sometimes tells me masturbation is normal
when I press him he says its a sin but he does not even seem to want me to struggle against it
Well I feel I am choosing my earthly success over spiritual riches for I should do nothing that does not also allow me to have faithful church attendance
because I want to serve people in the church. If work compromises my faith and makes me not an effective witness and empowered for Jesus I should cut it off but I like my success I am having now. But I want to cut it off for fear of my salvation and others
Basically I am afraid for my salvation and others and my dad does not like that
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2013, 07:19:15 AM »
Mike,

A few questions, of course you can decline to answer.

How old are you?

Do you live with your father? If so, how much time do you spend together in a given week?

I am guessing "uni" is "university"?

Is English your first language?

Have you been diagnosed with any mood / psychiatric disorders? Depression, anxiety, etc.?

You speak a lot about your father, how about your mother?

Please feel free to omit without explanation any answer you feel would compromise the degree of anonymity you feel comfortable with. You just sound like you are have some significant struggles or perhaps using language that a bit more severe than I would expect from a young man.

I hope you take no offense by my questions.


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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2013, 07:36:41 AM »
I am 27
I live at home with my father and mother
I have the same problems with my mum but she does not make me feel ashamed though I feel guilty afterwards for how I treat her which I believed is for God
I have been diagnosed with depression anxiety and psychosis but I don't see hallucinations
I also have ADHD
I am at uni most of the time so incase I come home early one day which I must sometimes as I feel sick then I speak to my dad a lot the minute he asks me a question or if I feel ashamed of not studying and feel uncomfortable with his presence
Yes uni is university
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013, 07:46:22 AM »
I have been diagnosed with depression anxiety and psychosis but I don't see hallucinations

Are you receiving are able to receive treatment for this? I've struggled with some depression and anxiety in my time. Psychosis thankfully I've been spared, save that which was drug or alcohol induced. I can't imagine have to manage all three.

If you are receiving treatment for the above is it going well currently?

Dealing with those three would make most living situations difficult.

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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2013, 08:02:26 AM »
Yes I am on zyprexa I am feeling well but I still have some psychotic thoughts like people coughing at me
I am recording my lectures and I am feeling lethargic which is why I am replying

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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2013, 08:11:23 AM »
Yes I am on zyprexa I am feeling well but I still have some psychotic thoughts like people coughing at me
I am recording my lectures and I am feeling lethargic which is why I am replying

Mike take as much time you need to reply.

I am not a therapist mike, I've been in therapy. I do not suffer from psychosis but I have had the pleasure of knowing and even living with some who have and helping some folks try to transition from less stable to more stable living arrangements.

Before, getting into your home life, I have to say the psychosis even when in relative remission in my experience can color the person's experience more than they realize.

Are you in any talking therapy to help manage or better understand your own psychosis? Do your parents know of your diagnoses? I found getting help in understanding psychosis from trained professionals and how to better help cope with those with psychosis help me understand them and for us to get along better. Have your parents received any counseling about how to help understand you better and help you manage your psychosis?

It's really great by the way that you seem pretty open about this and want to better your relationship with those around you.

A lot of people are simply too ashamed to even admit they have such experiences often for good reasons granted.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2013, 08:30:56 AM »
Orthonorm has given a lot of good advice.  I am not a therapist either, but I have also struggled with anxiety and depression. I don't know if you have discussed it w/ you doctor, but often the first medication they put you on does not end up being the best or most effective one for you.  You might want to have a discussion w/ your doctor and see if there are other meds that they might transition you to.  I went through a few before I found one that worked well.  I will also say that even after moving to that, it took me a good year before I was able to start seeing things clearly.  It takes your brain awhile to readjust after being used to thinking in one pattern for an expended period of time (at least it did for me, perhaps others have had different experiences).
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2013, 08:49:04 AM »
thanks guys

I am not too depressed but I am depressed because I don't have much achievements. I don't feel I have a purpose.  I don't feel it is a neurochemical issue this time. I feel depressed as I am not allowed to do things I enjoy like watching a tv show or playing games as I have work to do.
My main problem is being really annoyed when I feel people cough at me or leave their desk to make me feel like crap and this stirs me up to misbehave and I can't control it and I can't control casting my pearls before swine. It is going to get me into trouble and put the blood of their souls on me as I am not qualified to be a preacher. I can't stop these irrational thoughts that people are trying to annoy me. One person may think I gave them a dirty look so they don't wait at the traffic light and go before it is green. They make it like I hurt their feeling. I never look anymore in peoples faces. Some people stand near me and talk it seems to get a reaction out of me and distract me. Some come to try to analyse why I am alone. All this causes me to leave uni and go home lest I be a wreck. I feel people try to hurt my feelings on purpose but I can not prove it and it is deemed irrational thinking. Like someone not wanting to wait for the elevator when I am there. People taking longer to serve me at mc donalds on purpose. My dad says never to preach alone but as a team of atleast 2
I feel upset and angry that people call me a retard when I start singing or if I talk on xbox live not clearly. I don't feel this world will ever prosper me or accept me. It has a bias and a hatred against me

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2013, 09:23:48 AM »

Mike, I am sorry to hear you are having such difficulties.  It must be very hard.

We all have a tendency to feel persecuted at times, and believe that people do things on purpose just to offend us.  More often than not, it isn't really true.  The person who ignored me in church and didn't say "hi"...I was sure was being mean, ignoring me after I greeted them.  In fact, they weren't being mean, they had some major worries on their mind, and simply were in "their own world" and didn't even see me....and yet, I took offense, when none was meant.

Try not taking personal offense, so easily.  I know it's hard, but, in the end YOU will be happier, if you do not get offended at every little thing.

I also suggest you pray.  Pray that God help you with controlling your emotions.  When you start feeling upset, or feel someone is being mean, pray.  Pray the Jesus Prayer.  Fill your mind with God, leaving little room for anything else.

As for your parents....sometimes, it's hard to bow to authority.  However, they are your parents.  God picked them for you.  He also told us to love and respect them.  This doesn't mean we have to do everything they say, if what they say is against God's teachings.  However, remember that even God listened to his mother at the Wedding at Cana.  She asked him to help the hosts of the wedding banquet when they had run out of wine.  He told her it wasn't yet his time....and yet, he did as she had asked.  Christ did as his mother told him....so, should we.

It's pride that gets in our way, and we feel nobody has the right to tell us what to do.  However, a huge part of being Orthodoxy is obedience and humility.  Not everything has to be your way.

Mostly, remember to tell your parents you love them.  Even if you've misbehaved towards them...tell them you love them.  It means a lot to a parent to hear that.

You will be in all of our prayers.  Praying that God grants you peace so that you can live the life you were meant to live.

(On a side note:  Orthonorm, is that really you?)
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2013, 09:27:24 AM »
thanks guys

I am not too depressed but I am depressed because I don't have much achievements. I don't feel I have a purpose.  I don't feel it is a neurochemical issue this time. I feel depressed as I am not allowed to do things I enjoy like watching a tv show or playing games as I have work to do.
My main problem is being really annoyed when I feel people cough at me or leave their desk to make me feel like crap and this stirs me up to misbehave and I can't control it and I can't control casting my pearls before swine. It is going to get me into trouble and put the blood of their souls on me as I am not qualified to be a preacher. I can't stop these irrational thoughts that people are trying to annoy me. One person may think I gave them a dirty look so they don't wait at the traffic light and go before it is green. They make it like I hurt their feeling. I never look anymore in peoples faces. Some people stand near me and talk it seems to get a reaction out of me and distract me. Some come to try to analyse why I am alone. All this causes me to leave uni and go home lest I be a wreck. I feel people try to hurt my feelings on purpose but I can not prove it and it is deemed irrational thinking. Like someone not wanting to wait for the elevator when I am there. People taking longer to serve me at mc donalds on purpose. My dad says never to preach alone but as a team of atleast 2
I feel upset and angry that people call me a retard when I start singing or if I talk on xbox live not clearly. I don't feel this world will ever prosper me or accept me. It has a bias and a hatred against me

Oh, mike - I have a good friend that's so very much like you (he's even on Zyprexa). Now I understand why you think your priest never has enough time for you, that you want to become a preacher or that you make your parents' life miserable. Things are surely not the way they seem to you right now. Have patience and have hope! I'm sure that you're surrounded by people who care - it may take a while until you learn how to live with this cross and find something meaningful to do, but many people manage.

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2013, 09:36:19 AM »
Mike, I hope and pray that things will improve for you.

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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2013, 09:58:07 AM »
Yes I am on zyprexa I am feeling well but I still have some psychotic thoughts like people coughing at me

Medicine should rid you of psychosis, but certain ideas like what you mentioned will linger on. People might be coughing, but most of the time it's not directed at you or anybody else. If you're doing CBT or some other therapy, they'll teach you how to deconstruct these thought patterns. If you find something weird about people's behaviour, the best thing to do is be open about it and speak to someone you trust (ideally a therapist). As orthonorm said, the more open you are, the more chances you have to get better.   
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2013, 03:17:03 PM »
Mike,

I'll agree with what someone else said, that medication should help the psychosis, and if it doesn't seem to be working then perhaps consider another medication along with therapy. It took me a while to find the right drug combination to handle my issues so that I could function normally again in public.

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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2013, 04:39:26 PM »
these are good pieces of advice.
i also know someone on strong drugs to manage similar problems and this is good advice that works for my friend.
i am so pleased to see so much good advice here on orthodoxChristianity.net  :)

it seems like you parents are really caring but don't have quite the same spiritual life that you would like to have.
i think you have to follow their advice most of the time, but maybe ask for more freedom to go to church etc. as a reward if you did what they asked you to (like studying, for example).
praying regularly and reading a small piece of the Bible each day will help. do you use the prayerbook (agpeya)?

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2013, 04:43:42 PM »
Parents have an amazing love for their children. Many parent-child relationships really one one the best examples of God's love for us.

Aaaaand 99.9% of the time this ain't so at all, except in the romanticized world that middle-aged old farts have in their minds.

The reality is this: most parents suck. They do. They're winging this parenting stuff like we do everything else and they are going to get things wrong. I think a lot of our personal problems develop from always submitting to our parents and being forced to believe that they were right all ours lives. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a dude on the internet.

In fact, that goes for everyone here.

My advice: don't trust anyone's advice except for a licensed professional. None of us here know your story and I imagine that most of us aren't even qualified to help you. See a therapist, school counselor, trusted adult etc.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2013, 05:14:46 PM »
Parents have an amazing love for their children. Many parent-child relationships really one one the best examples of God's love for us.

Aaaaand 99.9% of the time this ain't so at all, except in the romanticized world that middle-aged old farts have in their minds.

The reality is this: most parents suck. They do. They're winging this parenting stuff like we do everything else and they are going to get things wrong. I think a lot of our personal problems develop from always submitting to our parents and being forced to believe that they were right all ours lives. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a dude on the internet.

In fact, that goes for everyone here.

My advice: don't trust anyone's advice except for a licensed professional. None of us here know your story and I imagine that most of us aren't even qualified to help you. See a therapist, school counselor, trusted adult etc.
We might suck and we might we winging it, but that doesn't mean we don't love our kids and want to do the best we can for them.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2013, 05:35:26 PM »
Parents have an amazing love for their children. Many parent-child relationships really one one the best examples of God's love for us.

Aaaaand 99.9% of the time this ain't so at all, except in the romanticized world that middle-aged old farts have in their minds.

The reality is this: most parents suck. They do. They're winging this parenting stuff like we do everything else and they are going to get things wrong. I think a lot of our personal problems develop from always submitting to our parents and being forced to believe that they were right all ours lives. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a dude on the internet.

In fact, that goes for everyone here.

My advice: don't trust anyone's advice except for a licensed professional. None of us here know your story and I imagine that most of us aren't even qualified to help you. See a therapist, school counselor, trusted adult etc.

Reality is, most teens think their parents suck on some level. I know I did at 17. The older I get, the more I see that if my mom didn't love me as God loves us, she would have threw me out of her home and saved herself years of tears and emotional pain that I personally put her through.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2013, 05:49:24 PM »
I never thought my parents sucked as a teen, and I never put them through any kind of hell either.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2013, 07:33:33 PM »
I never thought my parents sucked as a teen, and I never put them through any kind of hell either.
You failed then as a teenager.  Start now.  They need some good tribulation.
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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2013, 09:22:17 PM »
Thanks for all the replies. I was sleeping during that time I think. Thanks all for wanting to help :)  I am seeing a psychologist for CBT but I am still fixed on my thoughts he has not yet been able to convince me my thoughts are wrong
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2013, 10:20:26 PM »
Thanks for all the replies. I was sleeping during that time I think. Thanks all for wanting to help :)  I am seeing a psychologist for CBT but I am still fixed on my thoughts he has not yet been able to convince me my thoughts are wrong


mike,

With all conceit, I think I can help you a little perhaps. I'll be "busy" for the next few days. I'll get back to you ASAP.

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2013, 10:28:10 PM »
At first I thought my daughter started this post  ;)

As a parent, nobody expects you to be perfect as I wish I could change how I have sometimes lashed out at my children. One big thing to keep in mind; you should obey your parents, not because they deserve it but because God commands it and He didn't put any conditions that your parents have to measure up to in your eyes before this has to be obeyed. If your parents screw up, its not your place to judge or correct them. Your parents are accountable to God for how they raise you. I would also add that God doesn't put age limitations on His commandment to honor our fathers and mothers.

I mean no offense to you. When I was a teen, someone had to explain this to me as well as I was being disrespectful to my parents.

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2013, 12:54:18 AM »
I never thought my parents sucked as a teen, and I never put them through any kind of hell either.
You failed then as a teenager.  Start now.  They need some good tribulation.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2013, 03:45:36 AM »
Thanks for all the replies. I was sleeping during that time I think. Thanks all for wanting to help :)  I am seeing a psychologist for CBT but I am still fixed on my thoughts he has not yet been able to convince me my thoughts are wrong


mike,

With all conceit, I think I can help you a little perhaps. I'll be "busy" for the next few days. I'll get back to you ASAP.



Thanks but I may be busy with work. I only come here when I am lethargic and knowing I can not focus already

At first I thought my daughter started this post  ;)

As a parent, nobody expects you to be perfect as I wish I could change how I have sometimes lashed out at my children. One big thing to keep in mind; you should obey your parents, not because they deserve it but because God commands it and He didn't put any conditions that your parents have to measure up to in your eyes before this has to be obeyed. If your parents screw up, its not your place to judge or correct them. Your parents are accountable to God for how they raise you. I would also add that God doesn't put age limitations on His commandment to honor our fathers and mothers.

I mean no offense to you. When I was a teen, someone had to explain this to me as well as I was being disrespectful to my parents.



Thanks for positive practical counsel. I do it all because I don't like them questioning me about everything. I want to enjoy my life. I also do it for I fear for their health. It bothers me that they may die soon even if my dad is perhaps only 59 now and mum similar age. I want them to live long to see that God is with me and does not want my life to be spent in sadness. I want to demonstrate the way of life to follow. As solomon said to see what is good for the sons of men to do all the days of their life. Sorry for rambling on and maybe being incoherent again. That may not be what I truly want to say. I believe God does not want me living miserable but to grow in talents and have a positive view towards our Master. "Perfect love casts out fear" I don't want anyone trying to make me afraid of them. But we must also fear God if we are not obeying Him as Psalm 2:10-12 says Kiss the Son and Rejoice with trembling. Now therefore be wise O Kings and be instructed you judges of the Earth






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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2013, 11:44:24 AM »
Reality is, most teens think their parents suck on some level. I know I did at 17.

Most adults I've seen seem to hate their parents as well for their childhood. This is especially true for generation-Xers.

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..she would have threw me out of her home and saved herself years of tears and emotional pain that I personally put her through.

Personally I never got this type of thinking. Why should we be thankful that our parents haven't kicked us out? They can't kick us out till we're 18. They aren't doing us any favor. Through having us they voluntarily accepted the duty of raising us for 18 years. They're just doing their duty; not a favor. If they didn't want to do it then they shouldn't have had sex.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2013, 12:01:27 PM »
Reality is, most teens think their parents suck on some level. I know I did at 17.

Most adults I've seen seem to hate their parents as well for their childhood. This is especially true for generation-Xers.

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..she would have threw me out of her home and saved herself years of tears and emotional pain that I personally put her through.

Personally I never got this type of thinking. Why should we be thankful that our parents haven't kicked us out? They can't kick us out till we're 18. They aren't doing us any favor. Through having us they voluntarily accepted the duty of raising us for 18 years. They're just doing their duty; not a favor. If they didn't want to do it then they shouldn't have had sex.

They can't leave you homeless til 18, but they can send you to places like a foster home to ensure you will be cared for by someone. My mother had the option to turn me over when I was 15 to a therapeutic group home and didn't. Parental duty is a choice these days like almost everything else. Moving on...
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2013, 09:13:09 AM »
Desire not to change others, because only them will you really love them.
Change yourself. Speak words of love and give advices for the Truth but if they want not don't force or push.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2013, 08:08:16 PM »
I am always attacking them for their faults because I don't like having to give account to them for my spending or what study I did or anything else or them trying to change me in some manner to watch the news, to mingle with people, and to know the streets of the road
I don't like them forcing me to trust them with my salvation. I have attacked my dad for not reading the bible often even though he has work to do.
I feel it would make sense for them to be suicidal
I feel excessive guilt
too much shame to approach my parents sometimes
I am sorry but I can not keep my spirituality to myself because even when I try to their spirit is provoked to change me
So, stop being this way.  Growing up is tough, but it's easier if you face it head on.  Admit your faults, make apologies and improve yourself.

Agreed.   Mike honor your father & mother - it's the first commandment with a promise.

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2013, 08:10:08 PM »
Reality is, most teens think their parents suck on some level. I know I did at 17.

Most adults I've seen seem to hate their parents as well for their childhood. This is especially true for generation-Xers.

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..she would have threw me out of her home and saved herself years of tears and emotional pain that I personally put her through.

Personally I never got this type of thinking. Why should we be thankful that our parents haven't kicked us out? They can't kick us out till we're 18. They aren't doing us any favor. Through having us they voluntarily accepted the duty of raising us for 18 years. They're just doing their duty; not a favor. If they didn't want to do it then they shouldn't have had sex.

Children are an absolute blessing.  Train them up in the Lord... In this day (its hard to but) train them to be contented with small things.  You'll be surprised how wonderful they can be.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2013, 08:10:45 PM »
I am always attacking them for their faults because I don't like having to give account to them for my spending or what study I did or anything else or them trying to change me in some manner to watch the news, to mingle with people, and to know the streets of the road
I don't like them forcing me to trust them with my salvation. I have attacked my dad for not reading the bible often even though he has work to do.
I feel it would make sense for them to be suicidal
I feel excessive guilt
too much shame to approach my parents sometimes
I am sorry but I can not keep my spirituality to myself because even when I try to their spirit is provoked to change me
So, stop being this way.  Growing up is tough, but it's easier if you face it head on.  Admit your faults, make apologies and improve yourself.

Agreed.   Mike honor your father & mother - it's the first commandment with a promise.

Man, they buy your toilet paper.... Remember that.  You don't have any right to give anybody any kind of lip or correction when they buy your toilet paper.

I moved out and mine are still buying me stuff.

My father insists on buying my groceries. Apparently, my shopping is too "sad" and frugal, of all things.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2013, 12:42:46 AM »
thanks guys

I am not too depressed but I am depressed because I don't have much achievements. I don't feel I have a purpose.  I don't feel it is a neurochemical issue this time. I feel depressed as I am not allowed to do things I enjoy like watching a tv show or playing games as I have work to do.
My main problem is being really annoyed when I feel people cough at me or leave their desk to make me feel like crap and this stirs me up to misbehave and I can't control it and I can't control casting my pearls before swine. It is going to get me into trouble and put the blood of their souls on me as I am not qualified to be a preacher. I can't stop these irrational thoughts that people are trying to annoy me. One person may think I gave them a dirty look so they don't wait at the traffic light and go before it is green. They make it like I hurt their feeling. I never look anymore in peoples faces. Some people stand near me and talk it seems to get a reaction out of me and distract me. Some come to try to analyse why I am alone. All this causes me to leave uni and go home lest I be a wreck. I feel people try to hurt my feelings on purpose but I can not prove it and it is deemed irrational thinking. Like someone not wanting to wait for the elevator when I am there. People taking longer to serve me at mc donalds on purpose. My dad says never to preach alone but as a team of atleast 2
I feel upset and angry that people call me a retard when I start singing or if I talk on xbox live not clearly. I don't feel this world will ever prosper me or accept me. It has a bias and a hatred against me





This problem never gets healed. I feel people sense that I love quietness so I can worship God and I hear them grunt or I feel their anger. They do anything to disturb the peace and stop me from having peace and praying to God as I enjoy the peace. I feel they try to make me feel they are more powerful than me or God and that anyone who may be converting others to God be being peaceful must be attacked so I feel provoked to say things to them trying to remain as respectful in my words as possible even saying God does not want to punish anyone and said not to judge. I say God is a fair judge and all good souls will be saved so they don't have an excuse to grind me to pieces. If I was peaceful inside this would never be happening is it because I don't fast enough or take the eucharist or read the bible as often? but the bible does not work alone without fasting maybe. And I feel I know already alot in the bible and may provoke me to get worse if I am not fasting
The chains of yesterday surround me and I yearn for peace and rest
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2013, 04:41:38 PM »
Yes... I had the same problem... But you know what happened? God changed them. They now seek quietness too.
Fast as your Priest tells you. Read the Bible( we never know everything, each time we learn more.)
Love everyone, even those who hate and insult you, speak about God to them but do not insist if they don't hear.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2013, 09:49:04 PM »
Don't except peace to come quickly,some times it is slow.I have found peace in my pain in that if pray to God about it I can endure.I too have these problems.I used to think that others would think bad about me,that they would laugh at me.That was not the case.I am 54now Pray,Pray,Pray,fast,when you can't go to church pray at home.If you need change your meds.get a good Doc.-therpist and do go or wright to a monstery ,ask they as well for payers.God be with you.

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2013, 09:58:36 PM »
Thankyou for the support Nikolaos Greek and Gayle

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2013, 10:02:35 PM »
Mike, buddy, you remain in my thoughts.
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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
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Thanks I love you

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Re: I make my parents life a living hell but they still love me
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2013, 09:34:28 AM »
Don't try to force them and don't even bring up discussions if they are not going to be mutually accepted. I have fought (not argued, but fought) just about everybody in my life regarding these issues. What can I say, lots of energy and nerves wasted and nothing came of it. Do I regret it? No, it's been pretty cool. :) Is it the normal way to do things? Nope. But you need a lot of (painful) experience to learn that. :) So, basically, just be calm and enjoy yourself as they go to hell with smiles on their faces...
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