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« Reply #180 on: October 14, 2013, 11:43:23 AM »

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But then we have to face the fact that many people will be offended by the mere presence of a Church in their communities.

Are you serious?  Huh

If you think the world has and will always tolerate Churches, then you are woefully ignorant of history.

Even today, here in the "Bible Belt," the depiction of the Cross is being banned.
http://americanoverlook.com/town-to-ban-cross-over-fear-it-will-offend-muslims/103488


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The article does not say "the depiction of the cross is being banned". It is saying that some people in the town feel the building of a 110-foot cross might offend certain non-Christians. Big difference.  police






Real news sources accurately reported the story.  http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130921/NEWS01/309210006/Florence-approves-construction-110-foot-cross-Brandon-board-rejected

The plan and proposed location was a zoning issue. People make much of nothing in modern America, it's being built in another location. 
In my corner of Mississippi, there are very few places this cross could be built because of our county tower ordinance. Most of the places that do qualify have cell phone towers on them already.
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« Reply #181 on: October 14, 2013, 01:07:57 PM »

Why does someone feel the need to build a 110 ft cross? Can't they do something a bit more useful with 80-100k?
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« Reply #182 on: October 14, 2013, 01:25:03 PM »

Why do people have to make simple things difficult? Hand out candy or dont. Goodness.....

I am so glad Im not a kid nowadays...I can see it now.....I dress up in my Stormtrooper costume, meet up with my Chewbacca and Powerpuff girls-clad friends, and all I want is candy. However, all I get is some moron adults having an existential crisis about giving me lemonheads or an icon. Just give me my mike-and-ikes or turn your light off. I have school in the morning and I dont care about some ancient holiday nobody celebrates except that fat chick at school who brings a dream-catcher to school and calls herself a wicker or something........

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Awesome, simply awesome!

Geez, we've got those wicker chair things on the porch.  Crap.....
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« Reply #183 on: October 14, 2013, 01:31:54 PM »

Why does someone feel the need to build a 110 ft cross? Can't they do something a bit more useful with 80-100k?

What I want to know is....why bother...


go big or go home....and 110 ft is puny.


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« Reply #184 on: October 14, 2013, 08:53:49 PM »

This poor woman has been in New york harbor before anyone went trick or treating in the US.


And you can be sure that there were many who said that was tasteless then.
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« Reply #185 on: October 15, 2013, 12:29:26 AM »

Just to reiterate:


If anyone feels that it is best not to proselytize on Halloween, then I respect that. No problem. What I don't respect is when people ridicule and condemn those of us who try to use Halloween as an opportunity to bring some joy, fun, and spiritual edification to children and their parents. Personally I think it is quite tacky to call endeavors to promote the Faith "tacky." So let each of us follow our consciences, and let us strive to conform our consciences to Orthodox Teaching and Christian love. I think if we all do this, then God will honor all of our actions.


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« Reply #186 on: October 15, 2013, 01:47:40 PM »


And you can be sure that there were many who said that was tasteless then.

you mean it's not tacky now?!
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« Reply #187 on: October 15, 2013, 03:23:50 PM »


And you can be sure that there were many who said that was tasteless then.

you mean it's not tacky now?!
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It and the Eiffel Tower to the two greatest atrocities the French ever committed.
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« Reply #188 on: October 15, 2013, 04:36:50 PM »


And you can be sure that there were many who said that was tasteless then.

you mean it's not tacky now?!
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It and the Eiffel Tower to the two greatest atrocities the French ever committed.
Otherwise the French are pretty much perfect.
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« Reply #189 on: October 15, 2013, 05:29:44 PM »


And you can be sure that there were many who said that was tasteless then.

you mean it's not tacky now?!
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Lady Liberty may be a little tacky, but that's nothing compared to the Capitol's decorations.  The Apotheosis of George Washington?  Ugh!
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« Reply #190 on: October 15, 2013, 06:50:00 PM »


And you can be sure that there were many who said that was tasteless then.

you mean it's not tacky now?!
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Lady Liberty may be a little tacky, but that's nothing compared to the Capitol's decorations.  The Apotheosis of George Washington?  Ugh!

I went to Washington once and when I saw the capitol I will never forget my disappointment when upon walking into the rotunda, found that it is a fake dome made of cast iron, and there is no wonderful airy space such as you find in the Cathedrals with the  original domes such as that, In fact everything is a fake copy of the originals, such as the Washington monument which is modeled after ancient monoliths made of solid stone erected thousands of years ago, ours is made of bricks.
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« Reply #191 on: October 15, 2013, 07:16:10 PM »


And you can be sure that there were many who said that was tasteless then.

you mean it's not tacky now?!
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Lady Liberty may be a little tacky, but that's nothing compared to the Capitol's decorations.  The Apotheosis of George Washington?  Ugh!

I went to Washington once and when I saw the capitol I will never forget my disappointment when upon walking into the rotunda, found that it is a fake dome made of cast iron, and there is no wonderful airy space such as you find in the Cathedrals with the  original domes such as that, In fact everything is a fake copy of the originals, such as the Washington monument which is modeled after ancient monoliths made of solid stone erected thousands of years ago, ours is made of bricks.

The construction didn't disappoint me, the gaudy paintings and statues did.  I actually prefer my state Capitol much, much better.  It has the same neoclassical architecture, but with tasteful bee motifs.
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« Reply #192 on: October 15, 2013, 07:25:22 PM »


And you can be sure that there were many who said that was tasteless then.

you mean it's not tacky now?!
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Lady Liberty may be a little tacky, but that's nothing compared to the Capitol's decorations.  The Apotheosis of George Washington?  Ugh!

I went to Washington once and when I saw the capitol I will never forget my disappointment when upon walking into the rotunda, found that it is a fake dome made of cast iron, and there is no wonderful airy space such as you find in the Cathedrals with the  original domes such as that, In fact everything is a fake copy of the originals, such as the Washington monument which is modeled after ancient monoliths made of solid stone erected thousands of years ago, ours is made of bricks.

The construction didn't disappoint me, the gaudy paintings and statues did.  I actually prefer my state Capitol much, much better.  It has the same neoclassical architecture, but with tasteful bee motifs.

It is just that the capitol dome is such a symbol of supposed greatness, and it is a complete fake, guess that gives some indication of what is really going on under the look of it.
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« Reply #193 on: October 15, 2013, 07:52:10 PM »


And you can be sure that there were many who said that was tasteless then.

you mean it's not tacky now?!
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Lady Liberty may be a little tacky, but that's nothing compared to the Capitol's decorations.  The Apotheosis of George Washington?  Ugh!

I went to Washington once and when I saw the capitol I will never forget my disappointment when upon walking into the rotunda, found that it is a fake dome made of cast iron, and there is no wonderful airy space such as you find in the Cathedrals with the  original domes such as that, In fact everything is a fake copy of the originals, such as the Washington monument which is modeled after ancient monoliths made of solid stone erected thousands of years ago, ours is made of bricks.

The construction didn't disappoint me, the gaudy paintings and statues did.  I actually prefer my state Capitol much, much better.  It has the same neoclassical architecture, but with tasteful bee motifs.

Cool state capitol: New York's in Albany. A beaux arts behemoth, full of the excesses of the gilded age, a  monument to gross corruption and it's next to "Brasilia north", otherwise known as Rockefeller Plaza. The  nearby ""Egg" (NYS Museum) and the ridiculously ostentatious Senate Office Building are bizarre. 
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« Reply #194 on: October 15, 2013, 07:56:58 PM »

I might be prejudiced a bit, but I like the PA Capitol building.

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« Reply #195 on: October 15, 2013, 07:57:13 PM »

Cool state capitol: New York's in Albany. A beaux arts behemoth, full of the excesses of the gilded age, a  monument to gross corruption and it's next to "Brasilia north", otherwise known as Rockefeller Plaza. The  nearby ""Egg" (NYS Museum) and the ridiculously ostentatious Senate Office Building are bizarre. 

Albany is an oddly put together city.  
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« Reply #196 on: October 15, 2013, 07:57:31 PM »

Oh yes! Albany is a fun city to look at.  Grin
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« Reply #197 on: October 15, 2013, 07:59:42 PM »

And some people want to stomp down on such off topic obscenities . . .
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« Reply #198 on: October 15, 2013, 08:01:33 PM »

And some people want to stomp down on such off topic obscenities . . .
I know, right?  How dare they!  Grin
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« Reply #199 on: October 15, 2013, 08:06:01 PM »

And some people want to stomp down on such off topic obscenities . . .

You've offered some good advice lately, so we're following it. Anyway, it's more interesting and probably less contentious than what we were discussing.
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« Reply #200 on: October 15, 2013, 08:54:43 PM »

And some people want to stomp down on such off topic obscenities . . .

You've offered some good advice lately, so we're following it. Anyway, it's more interesting and probably less contentious than what we were discussing.

It really is.
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« Reply #201 on: October 18, 2013, 06:35:02 PM »

Gebre is not alone..  http://ocl.org/halloween-an-orthodox-approach/
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« Reply #202 on: October 18, 2013, 10:56:58 PM »


And you can be sure that there were many who said that was tasteless then.

you mean it's not tacky now?!
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Lady Liberty may be a little tacky, but that's nothing compared to the Capitol's decorations.  The Apotheosis of George Washington?  Ugh!

I went to Washington once and when I saw the capitol I will never forget my disappointment when upon walking into the rotunda, found that it is a fake dome made of cast iron, and there is no wonderful airy space such as you find in the Cathedrals with the  original domes such as that, In fact everything is a fake copy of the originals, such as the Washington monument which is modeled after ancient monoliths made of solid stone erected thousands of years ago, ours is made of bricks.

The construction didn't disappoint me, the gaudy paintings and statues did.  I actually prefer my state Capitol much, much better.  It has the same neoclassical architecture, but with tasteful bee motifs.
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« Reply #203 on: October 19, 2013, 03:53:36 PM »


wow, this is giving me more ideas!
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i like the idea of icons and candles.
i wonder if cutting a large cross in a pumkin and lighting a candle inside it will work?

don't worry, there will also be sweets...
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« Reply #204 on: October 19, 2013, 03:57:59 PM »


i like the idea of icons and candles.
i wonder if cutting a large cross in a pumkin and lighting a candle inside it will work?

I like the idea as well. I'd do it, if we got trick-or-treaters here.

As for the pumpkin, make it several smaller crosses all around. You don't want the flame to be visible. Wink
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« Reply #205 on: October 19, 2013, 04:03:09 PM »

ok, thanks!
i've been a non-celebrator of halloween since i was 5, so didn't get much pumpkin-cutting practice!

how many little crosses would you suggest?
if i put a short, fat candle inside with the top replaced like a lid, do you think the candle will still burn inside without going out?
(need to prepare for rain in this country! i seem to remember how much you love the weather here...)
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« Reply #206 on: October 19, 2013, 05:22:28 PM »

I can't carve to save my life, but probably 4-5 crosses around the rim (after cutting off the lid) would be enough. The cuts should give the candle enough air to keep burning.
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« Reply #207 on: October 21, 2013, 05:32:36 PM »

Here is a video on handing out tracts for Halloween.  It just makes me want to cringe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mdvpchs6wjs#t=62
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« Reply #208 on: October 21, 2013, 07:00:24 PM »

Here is a video on handing out tracts for Halloween.  It just makes me want to cringe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mdvpchs6wjs#t=62

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« Reply #209 on: October 21, 2013, 07:02:23 PM »

Here is a video on handing out tracts for Halloween.  It just makes me want to cringe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mdvpchs6wjs#t=62

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« Reply #210 on: October 21, 2013, 07:06:07 PM »

ok, thanks!
i've been a non-celebrator of halloween since i was 5, so didn't get much pumpkin-cutting practice!

how many little crosses would you suggest?
if i put a short, fat candle inside with the top replaced like a lid, do you think the candle will still burn inside without going out?
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« Reply #211 on: October 24, 2013, 12:10:00 AM »

I have an icon of St John's severed head in a dish.  That's the whole icon.  Nothing else. 

I love it. 

It's quite prevalent among the Old Believers around my parts. In fact, I know a guy whose icon corner consists of this one alone.

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« Reply #212 on: October 31, 2013, 05:37:30 PM »

so...
no kids knocked on my door.
i prayed for them anyway, and ate a lot of chocolate!

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