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« Reply #90 on: October 08, 2013, 04:35:04 PM »
Cities I thought were overrated:
Venice, Italy

This is true. It smells like fish and the canals weren't even that pretty.

The Northern Italian countryside was much better. We didn't get to see Florence, but we saw Assisi, which is on a big hill in the middle of an Umbrian plain.
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« Reply #91 on: October 08, 2013, 04:39:58 PM »
Cities I thought were overrated:
Venice, Italy

This is true. It smells like fish and the canals weren't even that pretty.

The Northern Italian countryside was much better. We didn't get to see Florence, but we saw Assisi, which is on a big hill in the middle of an Umbrian plain.

Someone told me that the Library of St. Mark is pretty neat, though.
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« Reply #92 on: October 08, 2013, 05:00:00 PM »
Cities I thought were overrated:

New York, NY

Cities I thought were overrated:

York, PA
York, PA cannot be overrated because no one likes it to begin with.  Therefore, we sit accurately as the dump hole of PA in concurrence with everyone's perceptions.  ;D
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« Reply #93 on: October 08, 2013, 05:00:40 PM »
Cities I thought were overrated:
Venice, Italy

This is true. It smells like fish raw sewage and the canals weren't even that pretty.

The Northern Italian countryside was much better. We didn't get to see Florence, but we saw Assisi, which is on a big hill in the middle of an Umbrian plain.
Fixed that for you.  ;D
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« Reply #94 on: October 08, 2013, 05:02:55 PM »
Favorite world large cities that I have been in:
Florence, Italy
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Los Angeles, CA
Chicago, IL
Washington, DC
Las Vegas, NV

Cities I thought were overrated:
Venice, Italy
Lima, Peru
Philadelphia, PA
New York, NY
Miami, FL
St. Louis, MO
Boston, MA

Can't speak to all of them, but I wouldn't include New York as overrated. The other American one's you mentioned maybe...parts of each of them are pretty great.....
I like NY a lot, but I think it is overrated. When I have friends from overseas come to the US, they all want to see NY as their number one priority.  It is a cool city, but it would not be my number 1 attraction in the country.  Probably not even in my top 5.
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« Reply #95 on: October 08, 2013, 05:41:21 PM »
I like NY a lot, but I think it is overrated. When I have friends from overseas come to the US, they all want to see NY as their number one priority.  It is a cool city, but it would not be my number 1 attraction in the country.  Probably not even in my top 5.

You have to know where to go.  The typical tourist attractions are nice for about five minutes if you've never seen them before, but it gets old fast.  But there's a lot more to NY than just NYC, and there's a lot more to NYC than just Manhattan. 

There's not much more to York, PA than York, PA, however.  :P
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« Reply #96 on: October 08, 2013, 05:54:37 PM »
I like NY a lot, but I think it is overrated. When I have friends from overseas come to the US, they all want to see NY as their number one priority.  It is a cool city, but it would not be my number 1 attraction in the country.  Probably not even in my top 5.

You have to know where to go.  The typical tourist attractions are nice for about five minutes if you've never seen them before, but it gets old fast.  But there's a lot more to NY than just NYC, and there's a lot more to NYC than just Manhattan. 

There's not much more to York, PA than York, PA, however.  :P
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« Reply #97 on: October 08, 2013, 06:01:52 PM »
Cities I thought were overrated:
Venice, Italy

This is true. It smells like fish and the canals weren't even that pretty.

The Northern Italian countryside was much better. We didn't get to see Florence, but we saw Assisi, which is on a big hill in the middle of an Umbrian plain.

People go to Venice at the wrong time of year.

Highly recommended reading: Death in Venice. I have no translation suggestions.
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« Reply #98 on: October 08, 2013, 06:23:43 PM »
Favorite world large cities that I have been in:
Florence, Italy
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Los Angeles, CA
Chicago, IL
Washington, DC
Las Vegas, NV

Cities I thought were overrated:
Venice, Italy
Lima, Peru
Philadelphia, PA
New York, NY
Miami, FL
St. Louis, MO
Boston, MA

I liked St. Louis, but I know people there so that was most of the attraction. 

The city I liked the least was Gatlin, NE.  Too many children there.
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« Reply #99 on: October 08, 2013, 08:00:44 PM »
People rate York PA?

I got arrested there once.

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« Reply #100 on: October 09, 2013, 12:09:19 AM »
People rate York PA?

I got arrested there once.

People rate York, PA if only to make their own domicile look better. You can always count on it being lower down the list than your own residence.  Possible exception is Newark, NJ.

lol, dare I ask why?

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« Reply #101 on: October 09, 2013, 12:13:22 AM »
People rate York, PA if only to make their own domicile look better. You can always count on it being lower down the list than your own residence.  Possible exception is Newark, NJ.
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« Reply #102 on: October 09, 2013, 12:16:51 AM »
People rate York, PA if only to make their own domicile look better. You can always count on it being lower down the list than your own residence.  Possible exception is Newark, NJ.
lol, that is mostly true.  I do like Cape May though.

As an aside, people from New Jersey seem to have this highly exalted view of their state which I have never understood. They pretty much live in a suburb of Philly or NYC, and they aren't nice suburbs.
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« Reply #103 on: October 09, 2013, 12:21:57 AM »
I've always thought of NJ as basically the entirety of the Turnpike with its rest stops.  the people settle around those and connect themselves to the main road with other roads, but basically NJ is consubstantial with I-95. 
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« Reply #104 on: October 09, 2013, 07:22:29 AM »
I've always thought of NJ as basically the entirety of the Turnpike with its rest stops.  the people settle around those and connect themselves to the main road with other roads, but basically NJ is consubstantial with I-95. 

Of one essence or of one nature?

NJ pretty much sucks, especially Camden, but it does have some of the prettiest farms in a lot of the townships.  My grandfather used to live near Browns Mills.
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« Reply #105 on: October 09, 2013, 07:47:01 AM »
Wow, going from the "ethical/moral implications" of reconquering Constantinople to the suburbs along the New Jersey Turnpike. Not exactly a straight line ......

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« Reply #106 on: October 09, 2013, 07:51:27 AM »
Wow, going from the "ethical/moral implications" of reconquering Constantinople to the suburbs along the New Jersey Turnpike. Not exactly a straight line ......
Is it ever in Orthodoxy?  :laugh:
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« Reply #107 on: October 09, 2013, 07:52:38 AM »
How is Istanbul like Camden, NJ?  Or Newark, for that matter?
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« Reply #108 on: October 09, 2013, 07:56:35 AM »
How is Istanbul like Camden, NJ?  Or Newark, for that matter?
Both are dumps?
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« Reply #109 on: October 09, 2013, 08:04:24 AM »
How is Istanbul like Camden, NJ?  Or Newark, for that matter?
Both are dumps?

Istanbul = 14.000.000 people.


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« Reply #110 on: October 09, 2013, 08:09:52 AM »
How is Istanbul like Camden, NJ?  Or Newark, for that matter?
They both have illustrious histories and their existances have significantly impacted world history.

Oh wait...
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« Reply #111 on: October 09, 2013, 08:12:05 AM »
How is Istanbul like Camden, NJ?  Or Newark, for that matter?
Both are dumps?

Istanbul = 14.000.000 people.


And Camden does not.  Ok.  Istanbul's skyline is much better.
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« Reply #112 on: October 09, 2013, 09:16:40 AM »
I'm really sad Philly isn't all its made out to be.

I wanted to go out there.
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« Reply #113 on: October 09, 2013, 09:19:49 AM »
I'm really sad Philly isn't all its made out to be.

I wanted to go out there.

I'd say it's still worth a visit.

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« Reply #114 on: October 09, 2013, 09:20:49 AM »
I've always thought of NJ as basically the entirety of the Turnpike with its rest stops.  the people settle around those and connect themselves to the main road with other roads, but basically NJ is consubstantial with I-95. 

Of one essence or of one nature?

NJ pretty much sucks, especially Camden, but it does have some of the prettiest farms in a lot of the townships.  My grandfather used to live near Browns Mills.

Not to mention, the entire state is loaded with STDs

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« Reply #115 on: October 09, 2013, 09:23:22 AM »
lol, dare I ask why?


There was a neo-Nazi rally in York and I... had some fun at their expense.

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« Reply #116 on: October 09, 2013, 09:24:06 AM »
It is worth it to see.  The last time I went, about 6 or 7 years ago, I thought it was pretty cool.  Two things struck me:  One bum dressed in jeans and an Army BDU shirt playing "Yankee Doodle Dandy" on a flute over and over again  AND a hipster handing out a communist newspaper saying that Bush needed to go (even though it was his last term and Obama was pretty much going to be the winner).  Good times.  Pat's cheesesteaks were delicious.
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« Reply #117 on: October 09, 2013, 09:24:37 AM »
I've always thought of NJ as basically the entirety of the Turnpike with its rest stops.  the people settle around those and connect themselves to the main road with other roads, but basically NJ is consubstantial with I-95. 

Of one essence or of one nature?

NJ pretty much sucks, especially Camden, but it does have some of the prettiest farms in a lot of the townships.  My grandfather used to live near Browns Mills.

Not to mention, the entire state is loaded with STDs

The Jersey Shore crowd?
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« Reply #118 on: October 09, 2013, 09:27:34 AM »
Snooki Transmitted Diseases...




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« Reply #119 on: October 09, 2013, 09:29:19 AM »
lol, dare I ask why?


There was a neo-Nazi rally in York and I... had some fun at their expense.
LOL!  nice.  Stay classy, York.

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« Reply #120 on: October 09, 2013, 09:31:09 AM »
Snooki Transmitted Diseases...

Every time I see a picture of her, I throw up in my mouth a little bit. :(
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« Reply #121 on: October 09, 2013, 09:31:35 AM »
It is worth it to see.  The last time I went, about 6 or 7 years ago, I thought it was pretty cool.  Two things struck me:  One bum dressed in jeans and an Army BDU shirt playing "Yankee Doodle Dandy" on a flute over and over again  AND a hipster handing out a communist newspaper saying that Bush needed to go (even though it was his last term and Obama was pretty much going to be the winner).  Good times.  Pat's cheesesteaks were delicious.

Philly is worth visiting for the cheesesteaks.  The rest is meh.  I guess maybe the Liberty Bell too if cracked bells are your thing.  If you plan on going to the Jersey shore, it is worth a detour for a walkabout.
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« Reply #122 on: October 09, 2013, 09:34:35 AM »
It is worth it to see.  The last time I went, about 6 or 7 years ago, I thought it was pretty cool.  Two things struck me:  One bum dressed in jeans and an Army BDU shirt playing "Yankee Doodle Dandy" on a flute over and over again  AND a hipster handing out a communist newspaper saying that Bush needed to go (even though it was his last term and Obama was pretty much going to be the winner).  Good times.  Pat's cheesesteaks were delicious.

Philly is worth visiting for the cheesesteaks.  The rest is meh.  I guess maybe the Liberty Bell too if cracked bells are your thing.  If you plan on going to the Jersey shore, it is worth a detour for a walkabout.

Ok, to derail the thread even further:  Pat's or Geno's?  Personally, I like Pat's.  Or for any other Philly folk, are there other steak places worth visiting? 
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« Reply #123 on: October 09, 2013, 09:36:43 AM »
There is much better food in Philly than cheese steaks. Yeah, the liberty bell is meh. There are also a lot of really cool but less famous places scattered throughout the city. Some must-sees: the Mutter Museum (a collection of medical oddities) and the UPenn archaeological museum. And the art museum is really pretty awesome.

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« Reply #124 on: October 09, 2013, 09:38:32 AM »
There is much better food in Philly than cheese steaks. Yeah, the liberty bell is meh. There are also a lot of really cool but less famous places scattered throughout the city. Some must-sees: the Mutter Museum (a collection of medical oddities) and the UPenn archaeological museum. And the art museum is really pretty awesome.

The bell doesn't do anything!   ::)

Next time I go, I will check out the museums.  Thanks!
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« Reply #125 on: October 09, 2013, 09:41:58 AM »
It is worth it to see.  The last time I went, about 6 or 7 years ago, I thought it was pretty cool.  Two things struck me:  One bum dressed in jeans and an Army BDU shirt playing "Yankee Doodle Dandy" on a flute over and over again  AND a hipster handing out a communist newspaper saying that Bush needed to go (even though it was his last term and Obama was pretty much going to be the winner).  Good times.  Pat's cheesesteaks were delicious.

Philly is worth visiting for the cheesesteaks.  The rest is meh.  I guess maybe the Liberty Bell too if cracked bells are your thing.  If you plan on going to the Jersey shore, it is worth a detour for a walkabout.

Ok, to derail the thread even further:  Pat's or Geno's?  Personally, I like Pat's.  Or for any other Philly folk, are there other steak places worth visiting? 
I am a Pat's man as well, but they both really are quite fantastic.
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« Reply #126 on: October 09, 2013, 09:45:30 AM »
Huh? This is fast day; ^ those are food porn posts. Is outrage!
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Re: The Re-Conquering of Constantinopolis - Ethical/Moral Implications
« Reply #127 on: October 09, 2013, 09:50:16 AM »
Your concept of what food porn is is deficient.  Let me assist you.



Wizwit,  mmmm.
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Re: The Re-Conquering of Constantinopolis - Ethical/Moral Implications
« Reply #128 on: October 09, 2013, 09:50:49 AM »
There is much better food in Philly than cheese steaks. Yeah, the liberty bell is meh. There are also a lot of really cool but less famous places scattered throughout the city. Some must-sees: the Mutter Museum (a collection of medical oddities) and the UPenn archaeological museum. And the art museum is really pretty awesome.

Sure there is, but you can get exquisite food in any major city.  If you are going to experience Philly, you want to eat something that is distinctly Philadelphian, so pick up a soft pretzel, some water ice (aka italian ice) and a cheesesteak.

The UPenn museum is quite impressive.  I'm not much of an art aficionado, so the art museum did not really appeal to me. I've never been the Mutter Museum, so I can't speak to that one.
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Re: The Re-Conquering of Constantinopolis - Ethical/Moral Implications
« Reply #129 on: October 09, 2013, 10:25:57 AM »
There was a neo-Nazi rally in York and I... had some fun at their expense.

I guess you were among the "anti-racist anarchists"?  :)
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Re: The Re-Conquering of Constantinopolis - Ethical/Moral Implications
« Reply #130 on: October 09, 2013, 10:28:06 AM »
NJ pretty much sucks, especially Camden, but it does have some of the prettiest farms in a lot of the townships.  My grandfather used to live near Browns Mills.

Not to mention, the entire state is loaded with STDs

I know one girl from NJ who is clean, so I really think you ought to apologise for your gross overstatement.
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Re: The Re-Conquering of Constantinopolis - Ethical/Moral Implications
« Reply #131 on: October 09, 2013, 10:40:43 AM »
NJ pretty much sucks, especially Camden, but it does have some of the prettiest farms in a lot of the townships.  My grandfather used to live near Browns Mills.

Not to mention, the entire state is loaded with STDs

I know one girl from NJ who is clean, so I really think you ought to apologise for your gross overstatement.

The state is riddled with STDs.  As in the government of NJ.  Or the very soil of NJ.  Who knows? :D
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Re: The Re-Conquering of Constantinopolis - Ethical/Moral Implications
« Reply #132 on: October 09, 2013, 07:18:00 PM »
There was a neo-Nazi rally in York and I... had some fun at their expense.

I guess you were among the "anti-racist anarchists"?  :)

Yeah. This time the media wasn't actually exaggerating with the a-word.

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« Reply #133 on: October 09, 2013, 08:09:40 PM »
When in Philly, the proper cheese to select is "whiz" as in - Cheez-Whiz. 

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« Reply #134 on: October 09, 2013, 08:11:56 PM »
Cheese whiz is nasty and is unfit for any decent food, no matter how much some try to push it as a tradition.