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« on: September 30, 2013, 08:46:52 PM »

We've been trying to brush my son's teeth now for a few months and lately he seems to not like the toothpaste we use. It's orajel and it's unflavored.  I'm trying to get him used to the sensation of actually having the brush brush against his teeth and gums, but I don't want to get a flavored toothpaste that he would be just swallow (harmless as that is).  What toddler toothpastes have you all tried?  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 08:51:49 PM »



Still the best.

I use this after I eat my 2 fruit cups.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 08:53:13 PM »

^For what age?  Kid is pretty vague. My son is 15 months.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 08:55:56 PM »

Why do you think your son needs to brush his teeth to begin with? Tooth decay and gum disease just isn't going to be a problem for a child young who cannot be made to brush. Heck, even with a terrible a diet it take a decade or so to do some damage.

How old is your child and how many teeth does he have? Chewing on stuff that isn't edible helps, but parents in America are pretty uptight about that.

I wouldn't worry about it.

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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2013, 08:59:19 PM »

It was salt and baking soda for me as a kid and a rag.

For the child I parented, it was whatever was around and he did it cause he wanted to be like the adults around him. It was probably a salt and baking soda paste.

If he didn't brush, I didn't care. But I didn't care if he didn't wear a jacket in cold weather if he didn't complain either. Gotta pick your battles and the pointless ones are the worst to choose.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2013, 09:00:09 PM »

I used to do Arm and Hammer toothpaste but stopped.

Stopped that whitening toothpaste garbage too. Starting to mess up my gums.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2013, 09:02:01 PM »

BTW get shampoo that doesn't have SLS in it.

My hair has improved tremendously. Nobody needs unnecessary detergents to strip the natural oils in your hair.

LOreal got some for like 6 bucks a bottle and it lasts. Doesn't get soapy either.

I shampoo like only once every 4 days.

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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2013, 09:04:48 PM »

I used to do Arm and Hammer toothpaste but stopped.

Stopped that whitening toothpaste garbage too. Starting to mess up my gums.

It does for most people. I ran out of toothpaste and used of the super-duper whitening stuff someone gave me at work. It sorta precipitated all my gums problems, whatever they are. I am sorta thankful. If I had started constantly bleeding for a week from the irritation caused by the toothpaste, my gum health might have silently declined to a much worse state.

But, I can say that a few changes and flossing a lot and regular gum targeted cleaning by a hygienist at a periodontist's office has brought back some of my gum to nearly normals. Which sorta depresses given how different my normal pockets are to my VERY bad ones.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2013, 09:06:39 PM »

You couldn't get me to floss even if you had me at gun point. I seriously just am too lazy to do it. I can barely brush my teeth everyday as it is.

I need to see a dentist though. Got a lot of plaque and tartar built up on my bottom teeth.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2013, 09:07:24 PM »



Still the best.

I use this after I eat my 2 fruit cups.

With the rat poison, fluoride?

My son got so sick on that stuff even though we followed the directions.
Turns out that he is allergic to fluoride, and so am I.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2013, 09:07:29 PM »

Why do you think your son needs to brush his teeth to begin with? Tooth decay and gum disease just isn't going to be a problem for a child young who cannot be made to brush. Heck, even with a terrible a diet it take a decade or so to do some damage.

How old is your child and how many teeth does he have? Chewing on stuff that isn't edible helps, but parents in America are pretty uptight about that.

I wouldn't worry about it.

With the onset of the adult teeth, then I would emphasize flossing over brushing (Wish some had told me that, well told me that my impeccable genes for good teeth came at the price of poor gum hygiene). Get a decent electric and really you don't need toothpaste anyhow outside some very slight cosmetic reasons. You are primarily trying remove via scrapping bacteria that is attempting to colonize and with the introduction of oxygen an environment in which the primarily anaerobic bacteria will not thrive.



He is 15 months and has 12 teeth (8 more to go assuming he's normal).  We wouldn't start taking him to a dentist until he's two, but, like I said, I wanted him to get used to the sensations of brushing and the taste/feeling of toothpaste.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2013, 09:08:07 PM »

With the rat poison, fluoride?

My son got so sick on that stuff even though we followed the directions.
Turns out that he is allergic to fluoride, and so am I.

So it's not the toothpaste's problem. K

My tap water probably has fluoride.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2013, 09:08:31 PM »

BTW get shampoo that doesn't have SLS in it.

My hair has improved tremendously. Nobody needs unnecessary detergents to strip the natural oils in your hair.

LOreal got some for like 6 bucks a bottle and it lasts. Doesn't get soapy either.

I shampoo like only once every 4 days.

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Uhhh, I am not sure you understand how shampoo works and what is a natural oil?

People go crazy over consumer products, bottom line: they are all are functionally the same.

Now if you insist on shampooing everyday, blowing drying, using products, etc. there are some alterations in your typical shampoo that might cause a difference, but really most people choice their shampoos based on:

Smell
Color
Feel while using

How their seems to them afterward is usually a function of the above.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2013, 09:10:10 PM »

With the rat poison, fluoride?

My son got so sick on that stuff even though we followed the directions.
Turns out that he is allergic to fluoride, and so am I.

So it's not the toothpaste's problem. K

My tap water probably has fluoride.

Yes, most city tap waters have mandated fluoridation.

It wrecks one's teeth because fluoride treatments make teeth and bones brittle.

Adding fluoride to toothpaste is criminal.
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Uhhh, I am not sure you understand how shampoo works and what is a natural oil?

People go crazy over consumer products, bottom line: they are all are functionally the same.

Now if you insist on shampooing everyday, blowing drying, using products, etc. there are some alterations in your typical shampoo that might cause a difference, but really most people choice their shampoos based on:

Smell
Color
Feel while using

How their seems to them afterward is usually a function of the above.
I've read enough to be convinced SLS in shampoos are bad for you, so I go for the sulfate free stuff.

Now you are going to give up the ghost when I say this, but the ONLY shampoo/conditioner combo that has the SLS and makes my hair radiant is that Biolage stuff.

20 dollars a bottle though...but everytime I used it my hair looked right out of a Cosmo magazine, I ain't even joking.

Like I said I hardly shampoo as it is. When I was in Denver, I just condition and skip the shampoo since it dries it out.
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Uhhh, I am not sure you understand how shampoo works and what is a natural oil?

People go crazy over consumer products, bottom line: they are all are functionally the same.

Now if you insist on shampooing everyday, blowing drying, using products, etc. there are some alterations in your typical shampoo that might cause a difference, but really most people choice their shampoos based on:

Smell
Color
Feel while using

How their seems to them afterward is usually a function of the above.
I've read enough to be convinced SLS in shampoos are bad for you, so I go for the sulfate free stuff.

Now you are going to give up the ghost when I say this, but the ONLY shampoo/conditioner combo that has the SLS and makes my hair radiant is that Biolage stuff.

20 dollars a bottle though...but everytime I used it my hair looked right out of a Cosmo magazine, I ain't even joking.

Like I said I hardly shampoo as it is. When I was in Denver, I just condition and skip the shampoo since it dries it out.

I agree with you here.
I try to avoid SLS in shampoos.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2013, 09:11:51 PM »

Yes, most city tap waters have mandated fluoridation.

It wrecks one's teeth because fluoride treatments make teeth and bones brittle.

Adding fluoride to toothpaste is criminal.
Maybe at higher doses.
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2013, 09:12:04 PM »

Although I use baking soda followed by Natural Dentist,
there is a great non-fluoridated toothpaste sold by Trader Joes.
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2013, 09:12:18 PM »

I agree with you here.
I try to avoid SLS in shampoos.
Trader Joe's Shampoo AM I RITE?

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Yes, most city tap waters have mandated fluoridation.

It wrecks one's teeth because fluoride treatments make teeth and bones brittle.

Adding fluoride to toothpaste is criminal.
Maybe at higher doses.

Read the labels. If you accidentally swallow Crest toothpaste, you are instructed to call Poison Control.
It is rat poison.
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2013, 09:13:05 PM »

Although I use baking soda followed by Natural Dentist,
there is a great non-fluoridated toothpaste sold by Trader Joes.

ROFL oh my gosh....I didn't even see this post before I made a comment about Trader Joe's.

Seriously LOL'd loud.
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I agree with you here.
I try to avoid SLS in shampoos.
Trader Joe's Shampoo AM I RITE?

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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2013, 09:13:48 PM »

Read the labels. If you accidentally swallow Crest toothpaste, you are instructed to call Poison Control.
It is rat poison.
So is swallowing detergent and other cleaning products, so what?

I drank Clorox once.
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Why do you think your son needs to brush his teeth to begin with? Tooth decay and gum disease just isn't going to be a problem for a child young who cannot be made to brush. Heck, even with a terrible a diet it take a decade or so to do some damage.

How old is your child and how many teeth does he have? Chewing on stuff that isn't edible helps, but parents in America are pretty uptight about that.

I wouldn't worry about it.

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He is 15 months and has 12 teeth (8 more to go assuming he's normal).  We wouldn't start taking him to a dentist until he's two, but, like I said, I wanted him to get used to the sensations of brushing and the taste/feeling of toothpaste.

I really don't buy pediatric dentistry till a lot of adult teeth come in. The difference in outcomes just aren't there from what I have read and heard talked about. I think getting kids to use a toothbrush in America is like toilet training: the parent gets trained.

Just let the kid start doing in light of positive role models. No kids want to be the only in kindergarten soiling themselves. And in my experience if kids like their parents, they will pretty much do anything to get their attention and acceptance, especially only children.

Of course dentists will say otherwise, because of many things, including that rat poison Maria was going on about, they have to find new streams of income. Cosmetic dentistry was a huge boon for the industry.

Any case, from an internet stranger, I wouldn't sweat it too much.

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ortonorm best way to remove acne or pimples?

I got some red marks from my acne in my youth but I wonder if I have developed mild rosacea because of Accutane.

And now they took it off the market cause of all the lawsuits. My joints were never really the same because of it.
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Read the labels. If you accidentally swallow Crest toothpaste, you are instructed to call Poison Control.
It is rat poison.
So is swallowing detergent and other cleaning products, so what?

I drank Clorox once.

What happened?

That sounds gross!

p.s. I remember going to a grocery store and buying a jar of apple sauce with a gallon of Clorox bleach.
The checker asked me if I were going to mix the two. I felt nauseated.
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What happened?

That sounds gross!
I don't know I was a kid and stupid. Yeah it was awful.

I knew a pregnant girl that wanted to drink Pine Sol and people literally had to force her from trying to get some.
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ortonorm best way to remove acne or pimples?

I got some red marks from my acne in my youth but I wonder if I have developed mild rosacea because of Accutane.

And now they took it off the market cause of all the lawsuits. My joints were never really the same because of it.

Acne is caused by a whole lot of stuff most of which is not under your control.

Don't bother it. Some people find diet plays a role. I don't think it makes a big difference.

I really only had acne when I was SWOLE from the excepted hormonal cascades when lifting hard and smart. Then it was just primarily on my back and little on my chest. It's likely mostly genetic but playing with hormones (women and I guess now men on the period tend to see an uptick in acne, which is also why birth control helps) seems very likely to be related.

Relax. Its probably the best thing for your skin.
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ortonorm best way to remove acne or pimples?

I got some red marks from my acne in my youth but I wonder if I have developed mild rosacea because of Accutane.

And now they took it off the market cause of all the lawsuits. My joints were never really the same because of it.

Acne is caused by a whole lot of stuff most of which is not under your control.

Don't bother it. Some people find diet plays a role. I don't think it makes a big difference.

I really only had acne when I was SWOLE from the excepted hormonal cascades when lifting hard and smart. Then it was just primarily on my back and little on my chest. It's likely mostly genetic but playing with hormones (women and I guess now men on the period tend to see an uptick in acne, which is also why birth control helps) seems very likely to be related.

Relax. Its probably the best thing for your skin.
OK people are just making tons of money on acne and not trying to find a real cure.

I had some on my back too.

My acne got bad when I was near the end of my freshman year in high school.

Did all the topical treatments and failed. I was getting cystic acne, my mother panicked. So last resort was Accutane, which also has properties used to fight against cancer.

I mean it cleared it up all right but I still have a lot of facial dryness that I try to keep moisturized.

My best friend's face is permanently pink because of the stuff. He's got a lot of scar tissue.

Hasn't affected him in the way of getting girls though.

I've spent thousands of dollars on stuff. Even went the holistic route.

I used to do 4 tablespoons of Extra Virgin Olive Oil a day with Fish Oil. Disgusting.
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« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2013, 09:36:04 PM »

Do whatever you can do reduce inflammation and maybe you could have measurable likely unnoticeable result.

See if the "paleo" diet you are eating helps.

Good night. Time to brush my own chops.
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« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2013, 09:48:59 PM »

When I was little we used Close-Up toothpaste.  I remember it to this day because the paste was actually red.  I remember thinking it was cool and liking the taste.  The novelty of it lasted a few years, probably because my parents used ugly white toothpaste.  When I got a little older I started to hate brushing my teeth though, especially at night.  I'd just go in the bathroom, close the door, turn the sink on, put the brush under the water, count to five, and then put it back.  Mom finally caught on so I was then required to blow my breath on her so she knew.  I started taking toothpaste and smearing a little on my front teeth.  That worked for a while, but she caught onto that.  I still don't know how.  Anyway, oral hygiene is important!  Watch your son like a hawk! 
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When I was little we used Close-Up toothpaste.  I remember it to this day because the paste was actually red.  I remember thinking it was cool and liking the taste.  The novelty of it lasted a few years, probably because my parents used ugly white toothpaste.  When I got a little older I started to hate brushing my teeth though, especially at night.  I'd just go in the bathroom, close the door, turn the sink on, put the brush under the water, count to five, and then put it back.  Mom finally caught on so I was then required to blow my breath on her so she knew.  I started taking toothpaste and smearing a little on my front teeth.  That worked for a while, but she caught onto that.  I still don't know how.  Anyway, oral hygiene is important!  Watch your son like a hawk! 

Hint: the dental hygienist and the dentist cannot be lied to.
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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2013, 10:50:31 PM »

Tom's of Maine makes nice toothpaste and has a kids variety. 

They make all of them with fluoride free as an option.

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« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2013, 01:30:39 AM »

What's the point?

Flossing really is all that matters. In the past ten years or so I've gone to the dentist, I've never had a single dentist ask me about brushing--it's always flossing. Brushing serves really no purpose that good flossing can't handle. It especially plays no purpose when like 90% of Americans are brushing the wrong way. Contrary to popular belief, brushing "hard" by firmly pressing the toothbrush on your teeth is the WRONG way to do it. It does nothing for your teeth. The purpose of brushing is for the bristles of the brush to go in-between your teeth and their crevices in order to remove bacteria. Once again, it's nothing that flossing and mouthwash can't handle better. When you brush too hard, the bristles can't do this.

Another thing to note is that cosmetically attractive teeth are NOT healthy teeth. You can have the whitest teeth ever--which is what most corporations are marketing--but they may not be healthy at all. The cosmetic appearance of your teeth plays no role in their health. My mother forced me to get braces in 7th grade and they straightened out my teeth, yes, but my gums have suffered irreparable damage as a result. They are always swollen and inflamed, bleeding, no air gets between my teeth, making it very hard to floss etc.
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« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2013, 01:30:39 AM »

ortonorm best way to remove acne or pimples?

Fortunately for me, I never got it much, except during the height of puberty when I was maybe 12. For the most part, there is nothing you can do about acne; it's genetic. There is no sure-fire cure for it. All people react differently to acne treatments, some folks find a relationship between acne and their eating habits or sleeping with their face against the pillow etc. Know your body and avoid the things that cause acne.

For me, the best treatment is prevention. I follow a routine everyday and it has worked quite well for me. It may not work for you, as all people are different, but it could be worth a shot.

1) NEVER sleep with your face against the pillow; always sleep with your head straight keep the blanket from touching your face.

2) Avoid touching your skin as much as possible; when you feel you need to, wash your hands first with HOT water.

3) Don't eat greasy food often, and when you do, make sure the grease doesn't touch your face, put the food directly in your mouth to avoid this. Then wash your hands and finger tips extremely well and wipe and grease from around your lips.

4) Drink lots of water.

5) Wash or rinse (don't over-wash, as soap can dry out your skin and cause more acne) your face twice a day with warm to hot water.

Acne "treatments" and washes are pointless for the most part, as they have mixed results for everyone. They aren't vital, but if you feel you need one, I'd suggest purchasing a basic acne face wash--whichever one works for you. I use this one, which is rather expensive. Another highly recommended treatment if you insist on using a treatment is the sulfur masks. I've found that these work very well at cleansing your skin. And the advantage is that they are more economical--as they can easily last you a year, and they work great. Try using a sulfur mask once a week. And I highly recommend you was your face with your selected acne face-wash immediately after using the sulfur mask. Remember to use warm water, the hotter the better, this opens up your pores and allows the treatments to actually penetrate.
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« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2013, 08:10:19 AM »

When I was little we used Close-Up toothpaste.  I remember it to this day because the paste was actually red.  I remember thinking it was cool and liking the taste.  The novelty of it lasted a few years, probably because my parents used ugly white toothpaste.  When I got a little older I started to hate brushing my teeth though, especially at night.  I'd just go in the bathroom, close the door, turn the sink on, put the brush under the water, count to five, and then put it back.  Mom finally caught on so I was then required to blow my breath on her so she knew.  I started taking toothpaste and smearing a little on my front teeth.  That worked for a while, but she caught onto that.  I still don't know how.  Anyway, oral hygiene is important!  Watch your son like a hawk! 

Compliance products will take care of this. Toothpastes which dye your mouth for a few minutes after having been used properly.

This is the next big chance in consumer products for child and industrial use.
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« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2013, 09:01:44 AM »

We've been trying to brush my son's teeth now for a few months and lately he seems to not like the toothpaste we use. It's orajel and it's unflavored.  I'm trying to get him used to the sensation of actually having the brush brush against his teeth and gums, but I don't want to get a flavored toothpaste that he would be just swallow (harmless as that is).  What toddler toothpastes have you all tried?  Thanks.

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« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2013, 01:59:00 PM »

We've been trying to brush my son's teeth now for a few months and lately he seems to not like the toothpaste we use. It's orajel and it's unflavored.  I'm trying to get him used to the sensation of actually having the brush brush against his teeth and gums, but I don't want to get a flavored toothpaste that he would be just swallow (harmless as that is).  What toddler toothpastes have you all tried?  Thanks.

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Oh well. I shouldn't run myself out of a paycheck, get all of them.
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« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2013, 02:10:50 PM »

We've been trying to brush my son's teeth now for a few months and lately he seems to not like the toothpaste we use. It's orajel and it's unflavored.  I'm trying to get him used to the sensation of actually having the brush brush against his teeth and gums, but I don't want to get a flavored toothpaste that he would be just swallow (harmless as that is).  What toddler toothpastes have you all tried?  Thanks.

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Oh well. I shouldn't run myself out of a paycheck, get all of them.

One at a time will do fine. Toddlers need distraction.

Feel free to keep using straight up baking soda yourself.
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« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2013, 02:20:55 PM »

We've been trying to brush my son's teeth now for a few months and lately he seems to not like the toothpaste we use. It's orajel and it's unflavored.  I'm trying to get him used to the sensation of actually having the brush brush against his teeth and gums, but I don't want to get a flavored toothpaste that he would be just swallow (harmless as that is).  What toddler toothpastes have you all tried?  Thanks.

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Oh well. I shouldn't run myself out of a paycheck, get all of them.

One at a time will do fine. Toddlers need distraction.

Feel free to keep using straight up baking soda yourself.

They don't. And I don't use straight up baking soda. Yes, that toothpase is going to "distract" a toddler from the 2-3 minutes chore of brushing teeth.

Really, they are just smart enough to know it is not necessary. Again, I shouldn't be cutting my paycheck.
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« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2013, 03:09:34 PM »

We've been trying to brush my son's teeth now for a few months and lately he seems to not like the toothpaste we use. It's orajel and it's unflavored.  I'm trying to get him used to the sensation of actually having the brush brush against his teeth and gums, but I don't want to get a flavored toothpaste that he would be just swallow (harmless as that is).  What toddler toothpastes have you all tried?  Thanks.

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Marketers everywhere upcharging for the same thing will thank you.

Oh well. I shouldn't run myself out of a paycheck, get all of them.

One at a time will do fine. Toddlers need distraction.

Feel free to keep using straight up baking soda yourself.

They don't. And I don't use straight up baking soda. Yes, that toothpase is going to "distract" a toddler from the 2-3 minutes chore of brushing teeth.

Really, they are just smart enough to know it is not necessary. Again, I shouldn't be cutting my paycheck.

Whatevs. It's your pay check, and your teeth.
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« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2013, 09:25:56 AM »

My dentist said that not flossing is like taking a shower and NOT cleaning your armpits.
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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2013, 12:54:22 PM »



My son uses this. I would recommend no fluoride. Water in the US is over-fluoridated so he/she will get enough rinsing with water. Too much fluoride is bad.
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« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2013, 02:59:00 PM »

It was salt and baking soda for me as a kid and a rag.

I've gotten fancy in recent years and use a toothbrush now, but this is still in use in my house.
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