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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #180 on: September 29, 2013, 06:32:33 PM »

Sometimes I really worry about the way some of our posters "relate" to Christ.  It's very Protestant-like...all warm and fuzzy...and buddy buddy, and way too chummy.

While Christ was God incarnate, and completely human, it is not for us to relate to Him as if he were our fraternity brother.

After all, we are instructed to stand in awe, and approach in fear...

Let's not lose our respect for our Savior. 



Indeed Liza.  I just gave a sermon on this today, namely the fear of God and how it means having a reverent awe and respect.  "Talking about Jesus lightly " has become a hobby around here.  It is not really Protestant, though, as many protestants would be horrified.  It is more of a "we'll not gossip so lets talk about something stupid and throw the God-man in."  A theological speculation out of filling in boredom.  Instead of enjoying boredom, meditating on the laws of the Lord day and night, we have come to a place where we can play "guess the bench press of the Almighty" supplants it.  Lord have mercy

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #181 on: September 29, 2013, 06:56:59 PM »
Well maybe we'll all be as (self)righteous as you some day, eh? Until then please pray for us wicked sinners who just don't understand.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #182 on: September 29, 2013, 07:07:32 PM »
Well maybe we'll all be as (self)righteous as you some day, eh? Until then please pray for us wicked sinners who just don't understand.

You do know you're name-calling to Fr. H, who is a priest, no?  ???
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #183 on: September 29, 2013, 07:18:24 PM »
Well maybe we'll all be as (self)righteous as you some day, eh? Until then please pray for us wicked sinners who just don't understand.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #184 on: September 29, 2013, 07:20:16 PM »

Sometimes I really worry about the way some of our posters "relate" to Christ.  It's very Protestant-like...all warm and fuzzy...and buddy buddy, and way too chummy.
How else are we to relate to Christ then as a person?

As a Stoic?

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #185 on: September 29, 2013, 07:20:57 PM »
Well maybe we'll all be as (self)righteous as you some day, eh? Until then please pray for us wicked sinners who just don't understand.

You do know you're name-calling to Fr. H, who is a priest, no?  ???

name-calling? Where?

And why doesn't everyone cry when Fr. H. is short, curt, and rude? White knights where are you now?

If I posted something like this:

If the apostles made it one of the criterion by which gentiles had to obey in order to be Christian in the first place Christians should make every effort to avoid it.

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And where did the Apostles make it one of the criteria?  You need to read more on what του πνικτου και του αιματος means before you start spouting your opinions.  The practice referred to is to strangle the animal and drain its blood and drink it while doing so, as is clear that we are to abstain from the strangled and the blood of the strangled.   

I would certainly get called out for the unnecessary and pretentious use of the Greek.

And I am sure someone's feelings would be hurt and one of the board's white knights would be right there to tell me how to terrible I am and give me a book they received from Human Resources on how to be more manipulative inter-personally effective.

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #186 on: September 29, 2013, 08:22:27 PM »
Well maybe we'll all be as (self)righteous as you some day, eh? Until then please pray for us wicked sinners who just don't understand.

You do know you're name-calling to Fr. H, who is a priest, no?  ???

name-calling? Where?

And why doesn't everyone cry when Fr. H. is short, curt, and rude? White knights where are you now?


Name calling....well, calling a priest, or anyone else, self-righteous, comes across as a bit rude.

Exactly when was Fr. H short, curt or rude?  Is educating and preaching considered rude, because the listener disagrees?

If that is the case, then may more priests be short, curt and rude....and actually "teach" the masses something.


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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #187 on: September 29, 2013, 08:28:07 PM »
Well maybe we'll all be as (self)righteous as you some day, eh? Until then please pray for us wicked sinners who just don't understand.

Why are you unwilling to admit you may have been wrong in this case?

How can anyone think it is okay to be so familiar with Christ?

This is GOD you are actually joking about!  God should never be the butt of silliness or joking.....ever.

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #188 on: September 29, 2013, 09:29:18 PM »
Well maybe we'll all be as (self)righteous as you some day, eh? Until then please pray for us wicked sinners who just don't understand.

He is doing his job as a priest.  I think this whole thread has been in very bad taste.  If there is nothing wrong with this thread, how many would be willing to have their priest read it and see what he says about it?  I guess Christ was self-righteous as well--after all, he got a whip and drove the money changers out of the temple.    That was the only time I can think of that Christ got angry.  Was He being self-righteous as well?

I also agree with Fr. H that many Protestants would be horrified to read this thread.  Some may treat Him as their buddy but they at least know where the line is that you don't cross.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #189 on: September 29, 2013, 09:41:26 PM »
Well maybe we'll all be as (self)righteous as you some day, eh? Until then please pray for us wicked sinners who just don't understand.

lol.  Truth be told I usually ignore threads like this and don't even look at them.  However, someone PM'd me and asked me to chime in.  And no, the pm was not Liza, but reading down through the thread, I found Liza's post to be well thought out and the perfect opportunity for me to chime in.  Do you really not understand, or are you just being a bit stubborn?

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #190 on: September 29, 2013, 09:42:41 PM »

Sometimes I really worry about the way some of our posters "relate" to Christ.  It's very Protestant-like...all warm and fuzzy...and buddy buddy, and way too chummy.

While Christ was God incarnate, and completely human, it is not for us to relate to Him as if he were our fraternity brother.

After all, we are instructed to stand in awe, and approach in fear...

Let's not lose our respect for our Savior.  



Indeed Liza.  I just gave a sermon on this today, namely the fear of God and how it means having a reverent awe and respect.  "Talking about Jesus lightly " has become a hobby around here.  It is not really Protestant, though, as many protestants would be horrified.  It is more of a "we'll not gossip so lets talk about something stupid and throw the God-man in."  A theological speculation out of filling in boredom.  Instead of enjoying boredom, meditating on the laws of the Lord day and night, we have come to a place where we can play "guess the bench press of the Almighty" supplants it.  Lord have mercy
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #191 on: September 29, 2013, 11:23:52 PM »

Sometimes I really worry about the way some of our posters "relate" to Christ.  It's very Protestant-like...all warm and fuzzy...and buddy buddy, and way too chummy.
How else are we to relate to Christ then as a person?
As the human incarnation of the Word of God, maybe.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #192 on: September 30, 2013, 01:21:08 AM »
Was the person who originally posted trying to stir up this trouble? If so then he is happy. I have seen this happen  at another site, but there they have a purpose as atheists to aggravate anyone who is religious.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #193 on: September 30, 2013, 10:06:13 AM »
   Scholastic theology... South Park style.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #194 on: September 30, 2013, 11:42:49 AM »
As a Stoic?

Did Christ laugh?

Did Stoics laugh?

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #195 on: September 30, 2013, 01:48:12 PM »
Here's another question pertinent to the thread, how hard do you think St. Nicholas could slap? 
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #196 on: September 30, 2013, 01:53:26 PM »
Here's another question pertinent to the thread, how hard do you think St. Nicholas could slap? 

Hard enough to make Arius say "CHRIST ALMIGHTY!"

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #197 on: September 30, 2013, 01:58:40 PM »

....but, Saint Nicholas is merely a saint...not God.


God is strong enough to create the world, and strong enough to destroy it.

That's pretty much all that anyone needs to know about His "strength".
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #198 on: September 30, 2013, 02:16:03 PM »

....but, Saint Nicholas is merely a saint...not God.


God is strong enough to create the world, and strong enough to destroy it.

That's pretty much all that anyone needs to know about His "strength".


But when someone denies Christ's divinity, treating Him as a creation of the Father's, it tends to make St. Nicholas slap people.  I would be interested to know how hard he slaps.  It might be useful information.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #199 on: September 30, 2013, 02:21:07 PM »

Hard enough to get his point across.

However, if you recall, the slap did get him in to some temporary hot water.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #200 on: September 30, 2013, 02:46:39 PM »

Sometimes I really worry about the way some of our posters "relate" to Christ.  It's very Protestant-like...all warm and fuzzy...and buddy buddy, and way too chummy.

While Christ was God incarnate, and completely human, it is not for us to relate to Him as if he were our fraternity brother.

After all, we are instructed to stand in awe, and approach in fear...

Let's not lose our respect for our Savior. 



Indeed Liza.  I just gave a sermon on this today, namely the fear of God and how it means having a reverent awe and respect.  "Talking about Jesus lightly " has become a hobby around here.  It is not really Protestant, though, as many protestants would be horrified.  It is more of a "we'll not gossip so lets talk about something stupid and throw the God-man in."  A theological speculation out of filling in boredom.  Instead of enjoying boredom, meditating on the laws of the Lord day and night, we have come to a place where we can play "guess the bench press of the Almighty" supplants it.  Lord have mercy

Father Bless!  I think this thread, and this whole website, would benefit greatly if you give us a "more detailed summary" (if that oxymoron makes sense) of your sermon.  :)
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #201 on: September 30, 2013, 03:34:26 PM »

Sometimes I really worry about the way some of our posters "relate" to Christ.  It's very Protestant-like...all warm and fuzzy...and buddy buddy, and way too chummy.

While Christ was God incarnate, and completely human, it is not for us to relate to Him as if he were our fraternity brother.

After all, we are instructed to stand in awe, and approach in fear...

Let's not lose our respect for our Savior. 



Indeed Liza.  I just gave a sermon on this today, namely the fear of God and how it means having a reverent awe and respect.  "Talking about Jesus lightly " has become a hobby around here.  It is not really Protestant, though, as many protestants would be horrified.  It is more of a "we'll not gossip so lets talk about something stupid and throw the God-man in."  A theological speculation out of filling in boredom.  Instead of enjoying boredom, meditating on the laws of the Lord day and night, we have come to a place where we can play "guess the bench press of the Almighty" supplants it.  Lord have mercy

Father Bless!  I think this thread, and this whole website, would benefit greatly if you give us a "more detailed summary" (if that oxymoron makes sense) of your sermon.  :)

I second that request.

Please Father!
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #202 on: September 30, 2013, 03:34:32 PM »

Hard enough to get his point across.

However, if you recall, the slap did get him in to some temporary hot water.

I do recall that.  I also recall that it was the Theotokos who gave the dissenting opinion.   ;)
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #203 on: September 30, 2013, 03:34:58 PM »

Hard enough to get his point across.

However, if you recall, the slap did get him in to some temporary hot water.

Yes, but Christ's Mother bailed St. Nicholas of Myra out of the hot water.

Heaven spoke rather quickly.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #204 on: September 30, 2013, 03:36:52 PM »

Sometimes I really worry about the way some of our posters "relate" to Christ.  It's very Protestant-like...all warm and fuzzy...and buddy buddy, and way too chummy.

While Christ was God incarnate, and completely human, it is not for us to relate to Him as if he were our fraternity brother.

After all, we are instructed to stand in awe, and approach in fear...

Let's not lose our respect for our Savior. 



Indeed Liza.  I just gave a sermon on this today, namely the fear of God and how it means having a reverent awe and respect.  "Talking about Jesus lightly " has become a hobby around here.  It is not really Protestant, though, as many protestants would be horrified.  It is more of a "we'll not gossip so lets talk about something stupid and throw the God-man in."  A theological speculation out of filling in boredom.  Instead of enjoying boredom, meditating on the laws of the Lord day and night, we have come to a place where we can play "guess the bench press of the Almighty" supplants it.  Lord have mercy

Father Bless!  I think this thread, and this whole website, would benefit greatly if you give us a "more detailed summary" (if that oxymoron makes sense) of your sermon.  :)

I second that request.

Please Father!

I'm not sure how much you will get.  Father H seems to have gone to the same sermon school that my Priest went to.  The entire course consists of six words: Stand up.  Speak up.  Shut up.  I think he said more in 8 sentences than we have thus far gotten out of 5 pages.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #205 on: September 30, 2013, 03:43:52 PM »

Sometimes I really worry about the way some of our posters "relate" to Christ.  It's very Protestant-like...all warm and fuzzy...and buddy buddy, and way too chummy.

While Christ was God incarnate, and completely human, it is not for us to relate to Him as if he were our fraternity brother.

After all, we are instructed to stand in awe, and approach in fear...

Let's not lose our respect for our Savior.  



Indeed Liza.  I just gave a sermon on this today, namely the fear of God and how it means having a reverent awe and respect.  "Talking about Jesus lightly " has become a hobby around here.  It is not really Protestant, though, as many protestants would be horrified.  It is more of a "we'll not gossip so lets talk about something stupid and throw the God-man in."  A theological speculation out of filling in boredom.  Instead of enjoying boredom, meditating on the laws of the Lord day and night, we have come to a place where we can play "guess the bench press of the Almighty" supplants it.  Lord have mercy

Father Bless!  I think this thread, and this whole website, would benefit greatly if you give us a "more detailed summary" (if that oxymoron makes sense) of your sermon.  :)

I second that request.

Please Father!

I'm not sure how much you will get.  Father H seems to have gone to the same sermon school that my Priest went to.  The entire course consists of six words: Stand up.  Speak up.  Shut up.  I think he said more in 8 sentences than we have thus far gotten out of 5 pages.

Let's see. In some classes there are only one or two A+ students with the rest barely making As and A-. I am assuming that the professor gave all his graduate students As just for standing there and delivering their sermons.
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Translated from the Russian by E. Kadloubovksy and G.E.H. Palmer, Faber and Faber, London, Boston, 1992 printing.

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #206 on: September 30, 2013, 04:04:22 PM »

I have heard Fr. H speak in person, and believe me, he could most definitely teach us all a thing or two.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #207 on: September 30, 2013, 09:18:32 PM »
I think he used to workout with a stack of Bibles. Can I say that without offending someone?
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #208 on: September 30, 2013, 09:19:29 PM »
Here's another question pertinent to the thread, how hard do you think St. Nicholas could slap? 

Hard enough to make Arius say "CHRIST ALMIGHTY!"

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #209 on: September 30, 2013, 09:21:12 PM »
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #210 on: October 01, 2013, 01:09:39 AM »

Sometimes I really worry about the way some of our posters "relate" to Christ.  It's very Protestant-like...all warm and fuzzy...and buddy buddy, and way too chummy.

While Christ was God incarnate, and completely human, it is not for us to relate to Him as if he were our fraternity brother.

After all, we are instructed to stand in awe, and approach in fear...

Let's not lose our respect for our Savior. 



Indeed Liza.  I just gave a sermon on this today, namely the fear of God and how it means having a reverent awe and respect.  "Talking about Jesus lightly " has become a hobby around here.  It is not really Protestant, though, as many protestants would be horrified.  It is more of a "we'll not gossip so lets talk about something stupid and throw the God-man in."  A theological speculation out of filling in boredom.  Instead of enjoying boredom, meditating on the laws of the Lord day and night, we have come to a place where we can play "guess the bench press of the Almighty" supplants it.  Lord have mercy

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #211 on: October 01, 2013, 01:15:10 AM »
Here's another question. Could Jesus make weight so big He couldn't lift?

The answer is, he would create a weight which is so heavy he cannot lift it, but at the same time, light enough he can lift it.

The same way, he is fully man and fully God. This weight, would be fully unliftable, and fully liftable.

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #212 on: October 01, 2013, 01:20:50 AM »
The answer to the OP, is He could bench press an abritrary number, with the strength of his body. But, if he so willed, he could lift any amount as he is the Son of God, or wait, He is God, or ...


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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #213 on: October 01, 2013, 02:08:14 AM »
Here's another question. Could Jesus make weight so big He couldn't lift?

The answer is, he would create a weight which is so heavy he cannot lift it, but at the same time, light enough he can lift it.

The same way, he is fully man and fully God. This weight, would be fully unliftable, and fully liftable.

I AM NOW A SCHOLASTIC!
As i have said before, the weight of something is not the same on a different planet, unless the mass of that planet matches earth. So science generally uses mass as a accurate gauge across the whole universe. It is relevant because we are talking about the God of the universe and he can visit any planet he likes.. And what something weighs is a function of mass, that of the planet creating the gravity , and the mass you are lifting. The weight of the world is irrelevant in the scheme of the universe, in other words he would explain that you cannot follow the simple guide for life found in the Bible. So why are you worried about how much he can lift when the answer would be too heavy for us.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #214 on: October 05, 2013, 01:30:47 PM »
I don't get why people don't like this thread. I'm not trying to treat Jesus like my gym buddy, I'm treating him like my Lord who was fully incarnate and thus am wondering about aspects of His incarnation.
That's good. Most of us here, including myself, treat Christ like an idol.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #215 on: October 05, 2013, 03:00:57 PM »
I don't get why people don't like this thread. I'm not trying to treat Jesus like my gym buddy, I'm treating him like my Lord who was fully incarnate and thus am wondering about aspects of His incarnation.
That's good. Most of us here, including myself, treat Christ like an idol.

If you admire your God for how much he could bench press, chances are you're already worshiping an idol. ;)

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #216 on: October 05, 2013, 03:07:57 PM »
I don't get why people don't like this thread. I'm not trying to treat Jesus like my gym buddy, I'm treating him like my Lord who was fully incarnate and thus am wondering about aspects of His incarnation.
That's good. Most of us here, including myself, treat Christ like an idol.

If you admire your God for how much he could bench press, chances are you're already worshiping an idol. ;)

You're better off with an Adonis or Hercules.

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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #217 on: October 06, 2013, 08:56:58 PM »
A few pages ago (at least with my view settings) I was asked for my thoughts on this thread.

Speculation on our Lord's physical qualities isn't new - I seem to remember St Athanasios musing in On the Incarnation that if the Lord had not subjected Himself to murder on the Cross that He wouldn't have died (i.e. His life had to be taken, because the forms of death that don't involve direct human action are results of corruption which He was not subject to).  Others among the Fathers and contemporary writers have taken up questions or discussions on some of the Lord's physical characteristics (skin tone, overall health, learning to walk as a child, etc.). 

Engaging in this discussion in a juvenile way isn't new, either.  I feel the same way about this discussion as I do about discussions of Miley Cyrus and Kanye West - our strong reactions to their attention-seeking activities only fuels their fire (and assists them in their "branding" and exposure).  Those of us who feel that this thread is beneath the level of discourse right for an Orthodox Forum are correct, but we're forgetting that sometimes good questions get asked in a bad/awkward way (I've got toddler-aged children, so this is a daily reality).  And those who don't like it when folks call them out for discussing good topics immaturely need to wake up: this forum is for adults, and adults should be perfectly comfortable pointing out when discussions fall beneath our dignity.  At some point those who are more mature need to help those who are less, and need to be patient while they do it; and those who are less mature need to be open to the advice given by the others on the forum.

The OP could have asked simply "Do you think the Lord had average or above-average physical strength?"  Instead, we ended up with the opening and tone that we did, akin to meeting someone and saying "Hey you, yeah you, what's your name," rather than the more polite "Hi.  My name is <Name>; I don't think we've met before.  Pleased to make your acquaintance."  I prefer the latter approach - you can get the same desired result (finding out the other person's name) without being disrespectful (intentionally or unintentionally) to them in the process.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #218 on: February 20, 2014, 02:38:13 AM »

He must have had a carpenter's bench at some time ...?
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #219 on: February 20, 2014, 04:22:23 AM »

He must have had a carpenter's bench at some time ...?
You had to reopen this can of worms? ::)
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #220 on: February 20, 2014, 04:54:22 AM »
sorry.

yes, I know it's Wednesday - well it was when I posted it, therefore a fast day.
as the Latins say "mea culpa"
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #221 on: February 20, 2014, 05:41:33 AM »
sorry.

yes, I know it's Wednesday - well it was when I posted it, therefore a fast day.
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #222 on: February 20, 2014, 05:45:44 AM »
sorry.

yes, I know it's Wednesday - well it was when I posted it, therefore a fast day.
You eat worms on a fast day?
only when things are going 'slow'.... :D
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #223 on: February 20, 2014, 05:50:00 AM »
nice and wiggly and RAW!
with just a drop of Worcestershire sauce for that little extra zing ... yum!
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Re: How much could Jesus bench press?
« Reply #224 on: February 20, 2014, 06:07:54 AM »
 But just to refresh our minds of something Very Important:
"The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us and we beheld His Glory, full of Grace and Truth."
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