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Question: How would you help the poor if you have $10,000 to do so?
Give lump sum to charity - 2 (9.5%)
Give small contributions to a number of charities - 7 (33.3%)
Give lump sum to a poor family - 2 (9.5%)
Give small amounts to a number of families - 3 (14.3%)
Adopt an orphan - 1 (4.8%)
Start a (small) charity - 0 (0%)
Feed hungry people - 2 (9.5%)
Other - 4 (19%)
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« on: September 24, 2013, 12:14:33 PM »

So if you were bestowed with $10,000, what would you do with it to make the world a better place? Obviously, it isn't a ton of money, so it isn't like you are going to solve world hunger, but it is enough to make a different in you community or in the life of someone who is in need.

I myself kind of struggle with the concept of whether it is better to be super involved in one person's life who really needs it, or to help a multitude of others, but only in a less meaningful way.

Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 12:30:40 PM »

Church, food bank and hospice get equal shares. If at all possible, those who get help shouldn't even know who gave the money.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 12:38:37 PM »

If you would get $10k to help the poor, what would be the color of your new car?
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 12:44:10 PM »

If you would get $10k to help the poor, what would be the color of your new car?
I don't know about the Netherlands, but here in the US, a new car costs a good bit more than 10k.  Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 12:47:39 PM »

If you would get $10k to help the poor, what would be the color of your new car?
I don't know about the Netherlands, but here in the US, a new car costs a good bit more than 10k.  Tongue

Why do we get only 1 choice?
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 12:49:03 PM »

If you would get $10k to help the poor, what would be the color of your new car?
I don't know about the Netherlands, but here in the US, a new car costs a good bit more than 10k.  Tongue

You can get a lot of new cars at ToysRUs for 10K.  Cool  You can then donate them all to one or more worthy charities, or just hand them out to kids in a poor neighborhood.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2013, 12:49:36 PM »

If you would get $10k to help the poor, what would be the color of your new car?
I don't know about the Netherlands, but here in the US, a new car costs a good bit more than 10k.  Tongue

Why do we get only 1 choice?
Because I suck at making polls.  That's why.  Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2013, 12:50:29 PM »

If you would get $10k to help the poor, what would be the color of your new car?
I don't know about the Netherlands, but here in the US, a new car costs a good bit more than 10k.  Tongue

Why do we get only 1 choice?
Because I suck at making polls.  That's why.  Tongue

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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2013, 01:04:48 PM »

If you would get $10k to help the poor, what would be the color of your new car?
I don't know about the Netherlands, but here in the US, a new car costs a good bit more than 10k.  Tongue

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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2013, 01:14:16 PM »

If you would get $10k to help the poor, what would be the color of your new car?
I don't know about the Netherlands, but here in the US, a new car costs a good bit more than 10k.  Tongue

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And, in the home of the brave, learn to fire your weapon accurately and bravely at car thieves. Cool
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2013, 01:17:58 PM »

If you would get $10k to help the poor, what would be the color of your new car?
I don't know about the Netherlands, but here in the US, a new car costs a good bit more than 10k.  Tongue

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And, in the home of the brave, learn to fire your weapon accurately and bravely at car thieves. Cool
Or, in the alternative, at anyone who looks like they may be a car thief. In most suburban areas, this means anyone who is not white.
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2013, 01:18:25 PM »

I'd give small contributions to a number of charities, sponsor another child or 2 or 3 through http://www.cfcausa.org/, and probably something else that I can't think of right away.
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2013, 01:18:49 PM »

If you would get $10k to help the poor, what would be the color of your new car?
I don't know about the Netherlands, but here in the US, a new car costs a good bit more than 10k.  Tongue

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And, in the home of the brave, learn to fire your weapon accurately and bravely at car thieves. Cool
Or, in the alternative, at anyone who looks like they may be a car thief. In most suburban areas, this means anyone who is not white.

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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2013, 01:23:12 PM »

I would give some to a charity, to Churches, to people who are clearly poor (homeless people on the street, in soup kitchens) and probably adopt an orphan.

But, yeah.

I would never have 10,000 $ on hand. I mean it.
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2013, 01:59:08 PM »

I'd probably give it to some microcredit organization.
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2013, 02:09:25 PM »

I'd probably give it to some microcredit organization.

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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2013, 02:10:53 PM »

I'd probably give it to some microcredit organization.
I like that idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcredit
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2013, 02:12:04 PM »

I'd probably give it to some microcredit organization.

 Huh

You haven't heard of microcredits or disagree with the idea?
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2013, 02:19:22 PM »


Oh...if only....

Imagine, how much good we really could do with that money!

I'd give a good chunk to the Church...however, often times those funds will sit in a bank for years and years....and really not do any actual "good" in the world.

The rest I would divide.  I would set aside at least $1,000 to actually hand out to people in the street whom I bump in to.  Imagine at Christmas time giving a needy family a couple hundred bucks.

I would love to "buy" them a dinner...have it prepared and delivered on Christmas or another major Feast Day.  I would make certain they realized this was a gift from God and nobody else.  Giving it on Feast Day would make it God-centric, so that they would thank Him, who actually made it all possible.

I would love to cater an event at a nursing home!  Do you know how lonely and sad the elderly are in places like that?  Again, I would take that as an opportunity to hand out Orthodox literature, too!  Wink  Hey...they are old.  Their time is limited....and there's no better time to find God.

What about paying the heating bills for a needy family during the winter, or providing gas money, or....

Gosh....there's so much that we could do!  ....if only....

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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2013, 02:21:45 PM »

I'd probably give it to some microcredit organization.
I like that idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcredit

After all, the founder of Grameen has already pocketed the Peace Nobel.
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I would pay bills and pay down on credit first.
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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2013, 02:44:13 PM »

So if you were bestowed with $10,000, what would you do with it to make the world a better place? Obviously, it isn't a ton of money, so it isn't like you are going to solve world hunger, but it is enough to make a different in you community or in the life of someone who is in need.

I myself kind of struggle with the concept of whether it is better to be super involved in one person's life who really needs it, or to help a multitude of others, but only in a less meaningful way.

Thoughts?


It seems having a religious organization and a for-profit mindset don't mix very well.

I need the ability to make money first.
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2013, 02:44:47 PM »

I would pay bills and pay down on credit first.

Excellent!  But, what if you had no credit to pay off and your bills were up to date and you were bestowed the $10k?
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2013, 02:47:42 PM »

I'd probably give it to some microcredit organization.

 Huh

You haven't heard of microcredits or disagree with the idea?

If you look under my avatar, you will see that I live under a rock.  I've never heard of microcredits so have no basis on which to agree or disagree with them.  Since I have macrodebits, the idea of microcredits seems almost frivolous.  But then, I have no idea what you're talking about, so ignore that last sentence. Wink
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I would pay bills and pay down on credit first.

Excellent!  But, what if you had no credit to pay off and your bills were up to date and you were bestowed the $10k?

Mmhh, fill out the deposit slip at a bank and put in a private account?...
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2013, 02:52:38 PM »

I would pay bills and pay down on credit first.

Excellent!  But, what if you had no credit to pay off and your bills were up to date and you were bestowed the $10k?

Mmhh, fill out the deposit slip at a bank and put in a private account?...

Not much on alms giving, eh?
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2013, 02:55:44 PM »

I don't like charities or anything that involves a third-party source. I'd just get it all in $10s and $20s and give a few to every homeless person I see out on the street until I ran out.
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2013, 02:56:45 PM »

I'd just get it all in $10s and $20s and give a few to every homeless person I see out on the street until I ran out.

Two days later the local drug dealer will be rich.
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2013, 02:57:56 PM »

I'd probably give it to some microcredit organization.
Yes, indeed. Giving others a chance to help themselves is a better long-term solution than giving them a shopping spree.
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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2013, 02:58:21 PM »

I'd just get it all in $10s and $20s and give a few to every homeless person I see out on the street until I ran out.

Two days later the local drug dealer will be rich.

St. John Chrysostom says to give to all without asking or inquiring, or else God will do the same with us. Christ also said to give without hesitation. It annoys me when people avoid almsgiving for silly excuses like "well what if they buy drugs!" God gave us Salvation and eternal life even though we waste it on things we don't need.
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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2013, 02:59:04 PM »

I'd just get it all in $10s and $20s and give a few to every homeless person I see out on the street until I ran out.

Two days later the local drug dealer will be rich.
He's got to make a living too, you know.
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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2013, 03:05:33 PM »

I'd just get it all in $10s and $20s and give a few to every homeless person I see out on the street until I ran out.

Two days later the local drug dealer will be rich.

St. John Chrysostom says to give to all without asking or inquiring, or else God will do the same with us. Christ also said to give without hesitation. It annoys me when people avoid almsgiving for silly excuses like "well what if they buy drugs!" God gave us Salvation and eternal life even though we waste it on things we don't need.

I'm just saying that there are more effective ways of helping the poor than financing their drug addiction. And how many people were shooting heroine in St. John's days anyway?
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I would pay bills and pay down on credit first.

Excellent!  But, what if you had no credit to pay off and your bills were up to date and you were bestowed the $10k?

Mmhh, fill out the deposit slip at a bank and put in a private account?...

Not much on alms giving, eh?

What is almsgiving?...
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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2013, 03:26:41 PM »

I would pay bills and pay down on credit first.

Excellent!  But, what if you had no credit to pay off and your bills were up to date and you were bestowed the $10k?

Mmhh, fill out the deposit slip at a bank and put in a private account?...

Not much on alms giving, eh?

What is almsgiving?...

The giving of alms.
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[nevermind] {It depends on what ppl consider to be "poor"} ... The inability to come up with money?..
   
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It doesn't matter what other people consider to be poor, it is just a simple question of if, hypothetically, you were given $10,000 that you were specifically instructed to help the poor with, what would you do with it? And designating yourself to be poor and keeping the money is not permitted.
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« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2013, 03:54:13 PM »

I'd just get it all in $10s and $20s and give a few to every homeless person I see out on the street until I ran out.

Two days later the local drug dealer will be rich.

St. John Chrysostom says to give to all without asking or inquiring, or else God will do the same with us. Christ also said to give without hesitation. It annoys me when people avoid almsgiving for silly excuses like "well what if they buy drugs!" God gave us Salvation and eternal life even though we waste it on things we don't need.

I'm just saying that there are more effective ways of helping the poor than financing their drug addiction. And how many people were shooting heroine in St. John's days anyway?

Perhaps not heroine, but, I'm certain they had their own form of addiction.  Humanity doesn't really change that much.
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I'd just get it all in $10s and $20s and give a few to every homeless person I see out on the street until I ran out.

Two days later the local drug dealer will be rich.

St. John Chrysostom says to give to all without asking or inquiring, or else God will do the same with us. Christ also said to give without hesitation. It annoys me when people avoid almsgiving for silly excuses like "well what if they buy drugs!" God gave us Salvation and eternal life even though we waste it on things we don't need.

I'm just saying that there are more effective ways of helping the poor than financing their drug addiction. And how many people were shooting heroine in St. John's days anyway?

Perhaps not heroine, but, I'm certain they had their own form of addiction.  Humanity doesn't really change that much.

Probably would have just wasted those denarii at the chariot races. Crazy Romans.
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It would probably be spent in a food-kitchen charity program.
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« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2013, 04:24:16 PM »

I'd just get it all in $10s and $20s and give a few to every homeless person I see out on the street until I ran out.

Two days later the local drug dealer will be rich.

St. John Chrysostom says to give to all without asking or inquiring, or else God will do the same with us. Christ also said to give without hesitation. It annoys me when people avoid almsgiving for silly excuses like "well what if they buy drugs!" God gave us Salvation and eternal life even though we waste it on things we don't need.

What does it say about judging their intentions and giving it to them anyway?
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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2013, 04:24:33 PM »

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Imagine, how much good we really could do with that money!
You mean all the Christians that could pool all their money together would change the world pretty quick.

ONLY if they could agree on how to do it  Grin.  And...good luck with that.
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« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2013, 05:29:05 PM »

I'd give it to the only homeless guy living in our area. Maybe he'd spend it "wisely," like get an apartment, get up on his feet, blah blah blah. Or maybe he'd blow it on stuff folks around here would call useless or harmful, like alcohol. Then the facebook "fan" page that other people started to keep up on him, as though he's some kind of oddity at a circus, would report on it. Everyone would be so interested. What would Bob do with the money? Oooh, let's watch! What will you do Bob? Entertain us, Bob!
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You mean all the Christians that could pool all their money together would change the world pretty quick.

ONLY if they could agree on how to do it  Grin.  And...good luck with that.
You wouldn't have to if they are truly Christians and follow His commandments.

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« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2013, 01:45:32 AM »

I'd just get it all in $10s and $20s and give a few to every homeless person I see out on the street until I ran out.

Two days later the local drug dealer will be rich.
Not his fault there has to be such a thing as drug dealers to begin with.

This Christian coutry kinda allows it to happen and is contributing to it anyway.

Plus since when is being charitable to the homeless mean you need to make assumptions prior?

Christ commanded to give with no judgment. In fact Christ says a lot of stuff about the poor that too many people gloss over because they don't want to do it.
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« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2013, 01:48:10 AM »

I'd just get it all in $10s and $20s and give a few to every homeless person I see out on the street until I ran out.

Two days later the local drug dealer will be rich.
Not his fault there has to be such a thing as drug dealers to begin with.

This Christian coutry kinda allows it to happen and is contributing to it anyway.

Plus since when is being charitable to the homeless mean you need to make assumptions prior?

Christ commanded to give with no judgment.
Where in the Gospel is He recorded as ever having said this? And don't jump on me for being ignorant about something you find painfully obvious.

In fact Christ says a lot of stuff about the poor that too many people gloss over because they don't want to do it.
Such as...
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« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2013, 01:49:10 AM »

So if you were bestowed with $10,000, what would you do with it to make the world a better place? Obviously, it isn't a ton of money, so it isn't like you are going to solve world hunger, but it is enough to make a different in you community or in the life of someone who is in need.

I myself kind of struggle with the concept of whether it is better to be super involved in one person's life who really needs it, or to help a multitude of others, but only in a less meaningful way.

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« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2013, 02:39:53 AM »

Church, food bank and hospice get equal shares. If at all possible, those who get help shouldn't even know who gave the money.

Same. I would want the money should to go to essential services that serve the poor (food banks, shelters, churches, hospices, clinics).

Alternative cheater answer: invest, grow the amount exponentially, and then solve world hunger with that. Cheesy
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« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2013, 08:08:49 AM »

Church, food bank and hospice get equal shares. If at all possible, those who get help shouldn't even know who gave the money.

Same. I would want the money should to go to essential services that serve the poor (food banks, shelters, churches, hospices, clinics).

Alternative cheater answer: invest, grow the amount exponentially, and then solve world hunger with that. Cheesy
If you can invest 10k and come up with enough money to solve world hunger, you must be the next Warren Buffett.  laugh
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« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2013, 09:59:49 AM »

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Imagine, how much good we really could do with that money!
You mean all the Christians that could pool all their money together would change the world pretty quick.

ONLY if they could agree on how to do it  Grin.  And...good luck with that.
You wouldn't have to if they are truly Christians and follow His commandments.

Truth is nobody is really a Christian.

No, the truth is that those who call themselves "Christian" are broken and fallible and fallen and struggling human beings for the greatest part failing to reach the same perfection of Christ and the saints.  Truth is, nobody is a perfect Christian. 
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