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« on: September 22, 2013, 06:10:59 PM »
Teens trash home of ex-NFL player, teens parents threaten player

Former NFL offensive lineman Brian Holloway is going to remember Labor Day weekend 2013 for a long time and not for a good reason. On the night of Aug. 31, more than 300 teenagers decided to hold a get-together at Holloway's rural vacation home in Stephentown, NY, and it turned into a bad House Party sequel.

Before cops were able to break up the illegal festivities, the teenagers caused over $20,000 in damage to the home. The damage included spray-painted walls, broken windows, floors scuffed by beer kegs and carpets soaked with beer, liquor and urine, according to ABC News 10 in New York...

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2013, 06:20:12 PM »
I hope he takes all those [insert whatever insult you could imagine] to court.  That's ridiculous.  The generational divide gets wider.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2013, 06:41:22 PM »
The generational divide gets wider.

True, the poor parenting of the WW2 generation has caused quite a bit of havoc. But we can still reverse it in time, I think.

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2013, 06:54:03 PM »
But let's stay on topic here, the most immediate problem is the parents of these kids, and secondarily the kids themselves, not how we got to this point. :)

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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2013, 07:41:47 PM »
True.  How parents could raise kids capable of even thinking of breaking into a house is beyond me.
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2013, 07:45:41 PM »
My dad would have trashed my room and broke all of my things, then he would have whipped me, and then I would have been given as an indentured servant to the man whose house was trashed.  No joke.  Sounds harsh probably, but my parents didn't mess around and I turned out OK.  
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 07:56:47 PM »
This is a somewhat  local story around here and we're still only getting bits about what happened at that house, more is coming out every day.

Speaking of "parenting", seems the owner's son might have actually been involved with organizing the party in some way according to some of the kids who were there, also many of the damages are reportedly wildy exaggerated and there was graffiti on the side of the barn long before the party event. Also there's been no publicly discussed statment about any "lawsuits" against the owner by any parents that I'm aware of.

Not that i'm justifying what these kids have done, but there's a lot more to this story and the owner.

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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 08:13:53 PM »
My dad would have trashed my room and broke all of my things, then he would have whipped me, and then I would have been given as an indentured servant to the man whose house was trashed.  No joke.  Sounds harsh probably, but my parents didn't mess around and I turned out OK.  

No kidding. Mine were worse. Seriously. And I was a good kid but ended up a terrible adult.
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2013, 08:16:01 PM »
My dad would have trashed my room and broke all of my things, then he would have whipped me, and then I would have been given as an indentured servant to the man whose house was trashed.  No joke.  Sounds harsh probably, but my parents didn't mess around and I turned out OK.  

No kidding. Mine were worse. Seriously. And I was a good kid but ended up a terrible adult.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2013, 08:18:56 PM »
My dad would have trashed my room and broke all of my things, then he would have whipped me, and then I would have been given as an indentured servant to the man whose house was trashed.  No joke.  Sounds harsh probably, but my parents didn't mess around and I turned out OK.  

No kidding. Mine were worse. Seriously. And I was a good kid but ended up a terrible adult.
We know.  ;) :-*

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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2013, 08:23:54 PM »
My dad would have trashed my room and broke all of my things, then he would have whipped me, and then I would have been given as an indentured servant to the man whose house was trashed.  No joke.  Sounds harsh probably, but my parents didn't mess around and I turned out OK.  

No kidding. Mine were worse. Seriously. And I was a good kid but ended up a terrible adult.
We know.  ;) :-*

You really have no idea how good a child I was. You truly don't.
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2013, 08:45:59 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2013, 08:48:36 PM »
What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

A spoiled brat is one of the worst things ever. There is no reason for it. It is especially tough to hear about this time of year, being Oktoberfest and all.
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2013, 08:57:46 PM »
What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

A spoiled brat is one of the worst things ever. There is no reason for it. It is especially tough to hear about this time of year, being Oktoberfest and all.
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2013, 11:01:48 PM »
What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

A spoiled brat is one of the worst things ever. There is no reason for it. It is especially tough to hear about this time of year, being Oktoberfest and all.

If it were Bavarian, I'd agree, but New York brats are barely even qualified to have the name. 
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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2013, 11:38:08 PM »
So who allowed them to have the party?
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2013, 11:38:08 PM »
I hope he takes all those [insert whatever insult you could imagine] to court.  That's ridiculous.  The generational divide gets wider.
Let's see 300 teens getting together for a party and the homeowner ain't around?

I actually expected a lot more damage.
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2013, 11:38:08 PM »
What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

A spoiled brat is one of the worst things ever. There is no reason for it. It is especially tough to hear about this time of year, being Oktoberfest and all.
Most middle class people my age are spoiled brats.

See my recent complaints of my co-workers
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What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.
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What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.
I can't because of how many people tell me how fine it is.

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What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.

Or else what?
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What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.

Or else what?
Well speaking as a Latinist, she might do something non-specific, or wicked, cruel, or violently or ruthlessly.
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What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.

Or else what?

You don't even want to know. Which I'm saying to be threatening, and not because I can't think of anything off of the top of my head.
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What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.
I can't because of how many people tell me how fine it is.

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What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.

Or else what?

You don't even want to know. Which I'm saying to be threatening, and not because I can't think of anything off of the top of my head.
Oh sure you can.

Scam, you got any kids, more specifically any babies?
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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2013, 08:25:28 PM »
What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.

Or else what?

You don't even want to know. Which I'm saying to be threatening, and not because I can't think of anything off of the top of my head.
Oh sure you can.

Scam, you got any kids, more specifically any babies?

True... I am a danger to all new parents. The local hospital has my picture posted on the maternity floor and it is not because I made that nurse cry when I was there.
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True... I am a danger to all new parents. The local hospital has my picture posted on the maternity floor and it is not because I made that nurse cry when I was there.
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True... I am a danger to all new parents. The local hospital has my picture posted on the maternity floor and it is not because I made that nurse cry when I was there.
What did Babies R Us do?

I couldn't possibly tell you. Because it's embarrassing, not because I was just kidding before.
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True... I am a danger to all new parents. The local hospital has my picture posted on the maternity floor and it is not because I made that nurse cry when I was there.
What did Babies R Us do?

I couldn't possibly tell you. Because it's embarrassing, not because I was just kidding before.
"Ma'am you have already created too many baby registries for this month...I need you to leave...we are already closed."
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« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2013, 08:58:38 PM »
True... I am a danger to all new parents. The local hospital has my picture posted on the maternity floor and it is not because I made that nurse cry when I was there.
What did Babies R Us do?

I couldn't possibly tell you. Because it's embarrassing, not because I was just kidding before.
"Ma'am you have already created too many baby registries for this month...I need you to leave...we are already closed."

Even though I have pointed out time and time again that it does NOT take very long to make a registry with those laser scanners. If they would just give me a minute...
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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2013, 08:59:02 PM »
What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.

Or else what?

You don't even want to know. Which I'm saying to be threatening, and not because I can't think of anything off of the top of my head.
Oh sure you can.

Scam, you got any kids, more specifically any babies?

True... I am a danger to all new parents. The local hospital has my picture posted on the maternity floor and it is not because I made that nurse cry when I was there.

Didn't you threaten to steal a baby?
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2013, 10:07:04 PM »
What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.

Or else what?

You don't even want to know. Which I'm saying to be threatening, and not because I can't think of anything off of the top of my head.

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Stone them, oh wait I'm a sinner too.
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2013, 08:49:26 AM »
What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.

Or else what?

You don't even want to know. Which I'm saying to be threatening, and not because I can't think of anything off of the top of my head.

Oh no. I'm so scared.
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What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.

Or else what?

You don't even want to know. Which I'm saying to be threatening, and not because I can't think of anything off of the top of my head.

Awesome!  New Yorkers of OCNet Unite!

Where in NY are you from? I hail from Corning.

You don't even want to know. Which I'm saying to be threatening, and not because I can't think of anything off of the top of my head.

Oh no. I'm so scared.

Well, let that be a lesson to you.  ;)
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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2013, 12:14:33 PM »

Didn't you threaten to steal a baby?

Yes... threaten...
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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2013, 12:30:40 PM »
Despicable.  Truly despicable.  I'm 50.  Back in the day, kids would tear up, but not like this, and not in such overwhelming numbers.  This generation is different.  It's as though they have no souls.  Seriously.  I look into their eyes, and nothing looks back.  Am I the only one getting the whole Twilight Zone experience with this generation--those aged 14 through about 22?  I feel like I woke up on the moon.
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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2013, 12:33:56 PM »
Despicable.  Truly despicable.  I'm 50.  Back in the day, kids would tear up, but not like this, and not in such overwhelming numbers.  This generation is different.  It's as though they have no souls.  Seriously.  I look into their eyes, and nothing looks back.  Am I the only one getting the whole Twilight Zone experience with this generation--those aged 14 through about 22?  I feel like I woke up on the moon.

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Re: 1) Trash a house. 2) Show pics on social media. 3) Sue the owner.
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2013, 12:54:16 PM »
What do you expect from parents of spoiled New York brats?

You leave the fine state of New York out of this.

Or else what?

You don't even want to know. Which I'm saying to be threatening, and not because I can't think of anything off of the top of my head.

Awesome!  New Yorkers of OCNet Unite!

Where in NY are you from? I hail from Corning.

You don't even want to know. Which I'm saying to be threatening, and not because I can't think of anything off of the top of my head.

Oh no. I'm so scared.

Well, let that be a lesson to you.  ;)

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Re: 1) Trash a house. 2) Show pics on social media. 3) Sue the owner.
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2013, 02:20:00 PM »
Where in NY are you from? I hail from Corning.

Westchester County: close enough to Manhattan, but also far enough from Manhattan.  :)
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Re: 1) Trash a house. 2) Show pics on social media. 3) Sue the owner.
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2013, 03:15:51 PM »
Despicable.  Truly despicable.  I'm 50.  Back in the day, kids would tear up, but not like this, and not in such overwhelming numbers.  This generation is different.  It's as though they have no souls.  Seriously.  I look into their eyes, and nothing looks back.  Am I the only one getting the whole Twilight Zone experience with this generation--those aged 14 through about 22?  I feel like I woke up on the moon.

Good to know that I don't have a soul.

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Re: 1) Trash a house. 2) Show pics on social media. 3) Sue the owner.
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2013, 04:01:44 PM »
Does it really matter? Those professional athletes make more money in a year than all of the parents' of those students combined make in their entire lifetimes. What's $20,000 worth of damage? He can probably afford ten more mansions and yet he's worried about $20,000 worth of damage to one? Sounds like a jerk for someone rolling in money.
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Re: 1) Trash a house. 2) Show pics on social media. 3) Sue the owner.
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2013, 04:08:07 PM »
Does it really matter? Those professional athletes make more money in a year than all of the parents' of those students combined make in their entire lifetimes. What's $20,000 worth of damage? He can probably afford ten more mansions and yet he's worried about $20,000 worth of damage to one? Sounds like a jerk for someone rolling in money.
So just because this guy's "rolling in money" makes what this pack of teens did to his house trivial? Maybe you don't believe in private property, but such is part of the very foundation of our system of law. What those teenagers did to Brian Holloway's house was criminal, and he is justified to press charges against them, regardless of how much or how little damage was done to his house.
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Re: 1) Trash a house. 2) Show pics on social media. 3) Sue the owner.
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2013, 04:13:09 PM »
Does it really matter? Those professional athletes make more money in a year than all of the parents' of those students combined make in their entire lifetimes. What's $20,000 worth of damage? He can probably afford ten more mansions and yet he's worried about $20,000 worth of damage to one? Sounds like a jerk for someone rolling in money.

Do you ever hear yourself? It's irrelevant how much money he has, he has a reasonable right to his property not being destroyed, and these teenagers don't have the right to vandalize his house and get away with it because he's rich. You know what? Never mind. I want to roll my eyes right now, but the doctor says that if I keep doing it, my ocular muscles might spasm and eject my eyeballs.
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Re: 1) Trash a house. 2) Show pics on social media. 3) Sue the owner.
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2013, 05:32:55 PM »
Does it really matter? Those professional athletes make more money in a year than all of the parents' of those students combined make in their entire lifetimes. What's $20,000 worth of damage? He can probably afford ten more mansions and yet he's worried about $20,000 worth of damage to one? Sounds like a jerk for someone rolling in money.

Do you ever hear yourself? It's irrelevant how much money he has, he has a reasonable right to his property not being destroyed, and these teenagers don't have the right to vandalize his house and get away with it because he's rich. You know what? Never mind. I want to roll my eyes right now, but the doctor says that if I keep doing it, my ocular muscles might spasm and eject my eyeballs.

The rich steal property from the poor every time they spend more on themselves then they need to according to St. John Chrysostom and no one cares about that. I can't really blame a few kids for getting back at the real criminals.
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