How Dan the Romanian gets banned 100 times and yesh 0, I'll never figure out. Must be because poor Dan never figured out how to hide all his ridiculous posts in the Free-for-All section. The poor kid.
I have not found this forum to be against those who oppose Orthodoxy or its beliefs. It's not in the rules. Rather, there is open dialog and even heated debate tolerated. It's a matter of fairness and following the rules. It's a matter of not cussing. Also I do participate within the bounds of the rules on many other sections on this forum. Free for All as stated to my understanding, is about "hot topics & debate".
These rules are important. Such as in "Faith Issues" if an Orthodox Christian was asking about infant baptism (or having an issue with it) needing support from Orthodox Christians, it would not be appropriate for somebody to chime in and say "it's a heresy and your church is fake", as they were seeking help from other Orthodox Christians. In that section however, any non EO can help EO Christians with their doctrine (so long as it is correct - and I have done), or correct false statements made of other faiths..... Even chime in with non loaded questions.
However in a Free for All section intended to have debate, it can get rather rowdy, so long as the thread isn't hijacked (from what I've seen - and learned it the hard way). It gives both EO and non EO a place to debate, throw jabs, come to understandings, etc. It's gutsy.
Anyway, I try to follow the rules. It's "their" simple machines forum & host... "Their" domain, "their" setup. I'm a guest.
Though religion and politics can be passionate and heated subjects (and I'm not winning a popularity contest on this forum) you'd be surprised how much we actually AGREE ON. I'd say 97% of Christianity we'd agree on. However, it's easy to compartmentalize the 3% where there are issues and heated debates ensue. You are welcome to PM me any time, and we can talk about all that we do agree on!
Nice reality check. We've certainly disagreed a lot, but you are on the money here! Thanks! ( 97%? That may be at little high but.....)
Heh, you'd be really surprised. I bet we both agree that Esau must have been horrendously hairy seeing that Jacob fooled Isaac with goat "fur". LOL We are talking... bad.
No really, we would agree on so much. The virgin birth, the divinity of Christ, the Gnostics being heretics, that Christ wanted us to love our enemies... etc. etc.
It's easy to compartmentalize issues and get worked up rather than seeing the broader picture. My disagreement with iconography for example would be one of those issues.... Yes, I disagree with the usage of icons... but icons are not 100% of Christianity either. Or the ironic position I find myself in witnessing Ecumenism which I believe violates the EO canon, yet I'm not even within the EO faith at this point in my life. But ecumenism is churchy, and has nothing to do with "feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, etc.". So I do believe in that understanding, despite the issues that I directly confront, we should all see that "most of us" are just trying to do the will of God. I think we'd agree on most things, it's just compartmentalized issues that get talked about mostly here.
In this case I believe that the Eastern Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew is in direct betrayal of the Canon, through ecumenism, through holding services with the RC. I am puzzled why the EO Patriarch would want an eventual end to the G. schism, which would undoubtedly lead to the merging of communions with the RC church. The RC church has centuries (nearly a millennium) of brutal and torturous blood on its hands (leaving the crusades out of this)..... Any sense of succession would be obliterated via canon which excommunicates clergy who murder.... if it was honored. It would be much different if there were isolated incidents through the years with the RC church. But it was through such a long length of time, murder supported by the church - which killed (in very brutal ways) so many Christians.
To (eventually) merge communions with the RC church, is to also merge their history and place responsibility with the EO church.