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Kant's loving and caring philosophy leads to gun violence
« on: September 18, 2013, 10:49:27 AM »
http://rt.com/news/russia-kant-debate-shooting-944/

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A heated argument in southern Russia over philosopher Immanuel Kant’s ideas erupted in violence when one debater pulled out a gun and shot the other. The attacker could face up to 15 years in jail.

The two men in their twenties stood in line to buy beer at a local store on Sunday in Russia’s Rostov-on-Don after the city’s anniversary celebration. They were discussing Kant’s philosophical ideas.

The discussion turned into a heated debate, which was followed by a fistfight and then one of the debaters pulled out a nonlethal pistol and fired at the other’s head...

Hmm... where have we seen parallels of these things I wonder? School shootings, Walmart riots? Hedonistic nonsense.
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Re: Kant's loving and caring philosophy leads to gun violence
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2013, 12:06:44 PM »
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A heated argument in southern Russia over philosopher Immanuel Kant’s ideas erupted in violence when one debater pulled out a gun and shot the other. The attacker could face up to 15 years in jail.

The two men in their twenties stood in line to buy beer at a local store on Sunday in Russia’s Rostov-on-Don after the city’s anniversary celebration. They were discussing Kant’s philosophical ideas.

The discussion turned into a heated debate, which was followed by a fistfight and then one of the debaters pulled out a nonlethal pistol and fired at the other’s head...

Hmm... where have we seen parallels of these things I wonder? School shootings, Walmart riots? Hedonistic nonsense.

This has nothing to do with Kant or philosophy of any kind.  Waiting in line to buy Russian beer ( ::) ::)) is highly stressful, especially if one has already been celebrating and wants to continue.  Waiting in line should be made illegal and lines must be banned everywhere they might form. 8)
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Re: Kant's loving and caring philosophy leads to gun violence
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2013, 12:47:19 PM »
the problem is Russians and philosophy mixing
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Re: Kant's loving and caring philosophy leads to gun violence
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2013, 12:48:41 PM »
the problem is Russians and philosophy mixing
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Re: Kant's loving and caring philosophy leads to gun violence
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2013, 12:50:16 PM »
the problem is Russians and philosophy mixing

Nope.  It's mixing beer and lines.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2013, 01:01:36 PM »
Well, they haven't had a beer yet according to the article, that's why they were waiting in line.  ::)
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2013, 01:15:38 PM »
Come on, it was a nonlethal pistol, I bet it was all in fun. I used to wrestle my friend down to the ground and rub his face in dandelions until his cheek turned yellow. Same thing.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2013, 01:23:51 PM »
Well, they haven't had a beer yet according to the article, that's why they were waiting in line.  ::)

Then it's the waiting in line that's problematic.  Always brings out the worst in Russians wanting beer.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2013, 01:24:24 PM »
Come on, it was a nonlethal pistol, I bet it was all in fun. I used to wrestle my friend down to the ground and rub his face in dandelions until his cheek turned yellow. Same thing.

 ??? Russians and fun  ???
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2013, 01:28:15 PM »
Well, they haven't had a beer yet according to the article, that's why they were waiting in line.  ::)

Then it's the waiting in line that's problematic.  Always brings out the worst in Russians wanting beer.

That's why there is no RusoDisney!!!!  They kant wait in lines after all the Soviet years of nothing but lines!
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2013, 01:32:35 PM »
Well, they haven't had a beer yet according to the article, that's why they were waiting in line.  ::)

Then it's the waiting in line that's problematic.  Always brings out the worst in Russians wanting beer.
I am of the opinion is the issue that they were waiting for beer and not vodka.  Vodka would have solved this problem.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2013, 01:35:45 PM »
Well, they haven't had a beer yet according to the article, that's why they were waiting in line.  ::)

Then it's the waiting in line that's problematic.  Always brings out the worst in Russians wanting beer.

That's why there is no RusoDisney!!!!  They kant wait in lines after all the Soviet years of nothing but lines!

At the end of which there was........................nothing.
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2013, 01:36:40 PM »
Well, they haven't had a beer yet according to the article, that's why they were waiting in line.  ::)

Then it's the waiting in line that's problematic.  Always brings out the worst in Russians wanting beer.
I am of the opinion is the issue that they were waiting for beer and not vodka.  Vodka would have solved this problem.

You may well be right.  Do Russians have to wait in line for vodka? 
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2013, 01:37:34 PM »
You may well be right.  Do Russians have to wait in line for vodka? 

No, it goes straight to their homes, like tap water does in America.
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2013, 01:39:11 PM »
You may well be right.  Do Russians have to wait in line for vodka? 

No, it goes straight to their homes, like tap water does in America.

That proves it then.  It's the waiting in line.
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2013, 01:43:14 PM »
In Soviet Russia, lines wait YOU.
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2013, 01:49:19 PM »
In Soviet Russia, lines wait YOU.

But Soviet Russia is gone.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2013, 01:58:26 PM »
But Soviet Russia is gone.

Is it? For how many decades did they invite westerners into Soviet Russia and trick us!? It was all a sham! They created entire villages to trick us, and make us think that things were different than they really were. And you want to believe their lies now? Does Putin seem like fun loving friendly democratic leader to you? Did you know that people like Peter Petrovich still flee Soviet Russia? But they are too scared to be open about what is going on. Where is our new Solzhenitsyn!?
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2013, 02:13:29 PM »
But Soviet Russia is gone.

Is it? For how many decades did they invite westerners into Soviet Russia and trick us!? It was all a sham! They created entire villages to trick us, and make us think that things were different than they really were. And you want to believe their lies now? Does Putin seem like fun loving friendly democratic leader to you? Did you know that people like Peter Petrovich still flee Soviet Russia? But they are too scared to be open about what is going on. Where is our new Solzhenitsyn!?

Maybe they've created an entire country to trick us.  Lines and all.  Life in any Russia is and always has been different from what it really is/was.  Perhaps Putin IS the new Solzhenitsyn.  (Did I really just say that  :o ??? :o ???)  Well, okay, maybe not, as he's not nearly as verbose.  Unless, of course, that's a trick.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2013, 04:09:43 PM »
http://rt.com/news/russia-kant-debate-shooting-944/

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A heated argument in southern Russia over philosopher Immanuel Kant’s ideas erupted in violence when one debater pulled out a gun and shot the other. The attacker could face up to 15 years in jail.

The two men in their twenties stood in line to buy beer at a local store on Sunday in Russia’s Rostov-on-Don after the city’s anniversary celebration. They were discussing Kant’s philosophical ideas.

The discussion turned into a heated debate, which was followed by a fistfight and then one of the debaters pulled out a nonlethal pistol and fired at the other’s head...

Hmm... where have we seen parallels of these things I wonder? School shootings, Walmart riots? Hedonistic nonsense.

How are you not shooting someone else if you have the misfortune to live in Russia and aren't some corrupt corporatist? Then some smart guy brings Kant up you?

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