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« on: February 10, 2005, 01:37:42 PM » |
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6945019/?GT1=6190I am placing this in this category because of the mention of the position of the CoE regarding divorce/remarriage and the implications for Charles being the future head of the CoE..
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2005, 01:41:46 PM » |
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In general, the Church of England, the legally established faith of the nation, disapproves of remarriage of divorced people in church. I admit to not being terribly familiar with the CoE; but, this seems a bit rigid given other matters. |
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2005, 01:44:04 PM » |
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Yeah, looks like a good time for Lambeth Palace and Buck-house to part ways. A majority of Brits (56% according to the Guardian) feel the Prince of Wales should be allowed to marry Camilla Parker-Bowles and still inherit the throne. A majority also feel it's time to disestablish the CofE. Prince Charles isn't the keenist Anglican anyway-he visits Mount Athos freq and attends Orthodox services w/ Prince Philip.
Andrew Parker Bowles: the man who laid down his wife for his country.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2005, 02:38:18 AM » |
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I don't know how the newsreaders here in Greece managed to keep straight faces while announcing this news. "Camilla" is pronounced exactly the same way (and in Greek it is spelled the same way) as the Greek word for camel and the way the announcement was phrased on a couple of news broadcasts was as follows Prince Charles is going to marry his Camel I don't recommend she accompanies him on his visits to Greece, although Greeks may be kind and find a different way to pronounce her name (unlikely though. They're having way too much fun with it). It was necessary for Charlton Heston, who has his surname pronounced "Easten" in Greece, since "Hes ton" literally means "Sh*t on him" John |
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2005, 09:56:23 AM » |
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I don't know how the newsreaders here in Greece managed to keep straight faces while announcing this news. "Camilla" is pronounced exactly the same way (and in Greek it is spelled the same way) as the Greek word for camel and the way the announcement was phrased on a couple of news broadcasts was as follows Prince Charles is going to marry his Camel I don't recommend she accompanies him on his visits to Greece, although Greeks may be kind and find a different way to pronounce her name (unlikely though. They're having way too much fun with it). It was necessary for Charlton Heston, who has his surname pronounced "Easten" in Greece, since "Hes ton" literally means "Sh*t on him" Just hilarious!!!  If the shoe fits... |
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2005, 10:03:15 AM » |
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I am glad they are going to do it (marry) quietly but I dont think Charles will be on the throne for long anyway...his mother is goign to be around a long time yet, and by the time he takes the throne he'll be pretty old himself. Since he can't be divorced/remarried and head of the Anglican church, a simple abdication at some point would (one could hope) quickly take care of this matter. Rules are rules, why should they change them in a hurry just for him?
Camel...love it. Poor Camilla, she's horsey enough, but camel?
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2005, 10:07:35 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2005, 03:50:17 PM » |
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I wonder who will officiate, as the Anglican Church doesn't allow re-marriage for divorcees with the ex still alive. They won't make an exception just because he is Prince, will they? In the 1930s, King Edward VIII abdicated to marry a divorcee. I wonder how come Charles can marry Camilla and still be Head of the Anglican Church.
At the same time, I am not expressing disapproval, I just have no firm position. Why, for all we know, he may have secretly converted to Orthodoxy, and if such a thing is found permissible, may even secretly marry Camilla in an Orthodox service, who knows?
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2005, 04:44:31 PM » |
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the plan is for a civil ceremony
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2005, 04:46:52 PM » |
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Interesting! That's exactly my thought. They could both be Orthdox already, secretly like Lord North, the guy who waged war on you rebels! (and lost..)
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2005, 06:09:44 AM » |
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All,
As a Brit (by nationality if not ancestry) I can honestly say that hardly anybody here seems to care what Charles and Camilla do (that's camel in Romanian, also, by the way!). It's clear that Charles is interested in Orthodoxy, his father had to give up Orthodoxy to marry the Queen (but still crosses himself like we do in public) and his grandmother became a nun after his grandfather's death. It's about time that the Church of England was disestablished. This would be good for the royal family because they could choose whichever religion they wanted, good for the state (I would argue there's no place for an established church in a state like modern Britain), good for the Church of England because they would no longer have to put up with intereference from parliament, and good for all the other churches, including us Orthodox. If this marriage starts people thinking in that direction then it will be for the good.
What Crucifer said is true. Charles and Camilla are going to have a civil wedding, but this is to be followed by a service of blessing by the Church of England (in St. George's chapel in Windsor Castle). That strikes me as somewhat hypocritical - their wedding clearly not being good enough for the church, but they'll bless it anyway. I don't suppose I should be surprised, though. This is far from the first time I've seen hypocrisy in the Church of England.
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2005, 07:01:58 AM » |
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"Mindful of the Church's teaching that marriage is indissoluble and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations above all others"...
So said Chuck's Aunt Meg 50 years ago.
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