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Offline Gunnarr

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Monks and Royalty near the deacon doors
« on: September 13, 2013, 02:27:58 AM »
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I have a question. Often, watching the Russian Patriarchate youtube, I see in various huge cathedrals nuns at the left side of the doors. That is, around the north door. (or perhaps both? but i notice it at the north door)

Why is this?  Is this a certain tradition? Why nuns?

Also, I heard that back in the days of royalty the royalty would be near the deacon doors as well. Is this true? (or am I mistaking this with theatre, where french royalty would sometimes sit on the side of the stage? I think it is the latter)
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Re: Monks and Royalty near the deacon doors
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 02:50:52 AM »
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Re: Monks and Royalty near the deacon doors
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013, 03:37:29 AM »
Choir on kliros.
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Re: Monks and Royalty near the deacon doors
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013, 03:43:35 AM »
that would make sense, but I hear male voices singing??? also that looks like a very small choir for such a large cathedral if those nuns there are the choir

but i think you must be right
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Re: Monks and Royalty near the deacon doors
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2013, 05:53:32 AM »
Also, I heard that back in the days of royalty the royalty would be near the deacon doors as well. Is this true? (or am I mistaking this with theatre, where french royalty would sometimes sit on the side of the stage? I think it is the latter)

It is true - the emperor/king/lord/prince was allowed to approach the altar and commune with the priests. Dimitrie Cantemir mentions this about the Moldavian lord.

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Re: Monks and Royalty near the deacon doors
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2013, 05:57:39 AM »
A Russian priest I know told me that, now that the choir is normally up in the choir loft at the back, the left and right kliroi are basically used as VIP sections.

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Re: Monks and Royalty near the deacon doors
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2013, 12:57:01 PM »
A Russian priest I know told me that, now that the choir is normally up in the choir loft at the back, the left and right kliroi are basically used as VIP sections.

I think this also makes sense, I now think you are right ;p
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