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« on: October 16, 2013, 06:51:16 PM »

http://byztex.blogspot.com/2013/10/against-stream-translating-from-english.html

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(ROCOR-MW) - The feast of St. Jonah of Hankow falls on October 7/20 each year.

This year that date is a Sunday, and since the complete service to St. Jonah exists only in English, His Grace Bishop Peter of Cleveland, Administrator of the Diocese of Chicago & Mid-America, blessed a group of qualified translators to translate this full service, originally authored in English by Reader Isaac Lamberston, into Church Slavonic. To the best of our knowledge this is the first time that such a translation has taken place, that is, of a service that exists in English into Church Slavonic. It should be noted that portions of the service to St. Jonah were translated in 1996 in preparation for his glorification in the diocese of Chicago & Mid-America, and Western America & San Francisco by Archpriest Serafim Gan.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2013, 06:59:02 PM »

Only in Orhodoxy...if I didn't know "byztex" personally, I would think this was an Onion Dome thing....
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2013, 10:13:12 PM »

Only in Orhodoxy...
It's the beauty of a religion that uses "holy" languages. Of course, those of us who use the vulgar can't even decide if we should use a modern, antiquated of faux-antiquated version of the vulgar, so who I am to criticize?

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if I didn't know "byztex" personally, I would think this was an Onion Dome thing....
LOL, I'm fairly certain there's an HH image about back translating texts from English to Slavonic somewhere.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2013, 10:56:48 PM »

Only in Orhodoxy...
It's the beauty of a religion that uses "holy" languages. Of course, those of us who use the vulgar can't even decide if we should use a modern, antiquated of faux-antiquated version of the vulgar, so who I am to criticize?

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if I didn't know "byztex" personally, I would think this was an Onion Dome thing....
LOL, I'm fairly certain there's an HH image about back translating texts from English to Slavonic somewhere.

Can a Klingon translation be far behind? 
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2013, 01:47:35 AM »

This is awesome. Can't stop laughing.

I would think this was an Onion Dome thing....
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2013, 01:55:36 AM »

Only in Orhodoxy...
It's the beauty of a religion that uses "holy" languages. Of course, those of us who use the vulgar can't even decide if we should use a modern, antiquated of faux-antiquated version of the vulgar, so who I am to criticize?

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if I didn't know "byztex" personally, I would think this was an Onion Dome thing....
LOL, I'm fairly certain there's an HH image about back translating texts from English to Slavonic somewhere.

Can a Klingon translation be far behind? 

They're already working on translating the Bible, so why not...
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2013, 02:08:35 AM »

Only in Orhodoxy...if I didn't know "byztex" personally, I would think this was an Onion Dome thing....
The Vatican translated its whole catechism into Latin (it was composed in French) and then made it the editio typica.

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The events and the constitution of 1814 have a central place in Norwegian identity. For this reason, and to keep the text as consistent as possible, changes are written in a language close to the original. In 1814, Danish was still the universal written language, as Danish and Norwegian were considered different dialects of the same language. The current two official varieties of written Norwegian language, Bokmål and Nynorsk (until 1929 called Riksmål and Landsmål respectively), were not developed until the late 19th century. In 1903, the constitution underwent a very slight linguistic revision, changing the spelling of some words where orthography had changed since 1814 but still retaining a conservative 19th century Danish.
All recent amendments have attempted to imitate the language of the 1903 version, leading to peculiar constructions. The word "environment" is written in the ancient spelling Milieu, differing from modern Norwegian and Danish miljø; the modern context of that word was, however, non-existing in the 19th century. The "Sami ethnical group" is "den samiske Folkegruppe", even though the word Sami (samisk) was not common until the 1970s. In 1814 or 1903, the word Lappish (lappisk) would have been used.
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and of course-
http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicipaedia:Pagina_prima
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2013, 03:41:10 AM »


Don't forget the news in Latin:

http://yle.fi/radio1/tiede/nuntii_latini/

And of course:

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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2013, 04:20:53 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2013, 04:32:46 AM »




What is written in Greek on the face of the train makes no sense at all, let alone a translation of Hogwarts Express.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2013, 04:44:00 AM »




What is written in Greek on the face of the train makes no sense at all, let alone a translation of Hogwarts Express.

It's supposed to be Ancient Greek...  laugh

"Express" = okys (fast, as in okys podas Achilleus) + poreuo (travel, cf. hodoi-poros)

Hys, hyos = "swine/sow" + goeteia = "witchcraft"/goetes = "wizard", hence hyogoetikos...

I actually find it a quite ingenious rendering of Hogwarts Express!
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2013, 05:01:31 AM »

Express could have been rendered far more elegantly as ταχεία, which does not need to resort to awkward and artificial neologisms.  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2013, 05:10:03 AM »

Express could have been rendered far more elegantly as ταχεία, which does not need to resort to awkward and artificial neologisms.  Wink

Maybe in the Modern Greek edition. But they didn't bother to translate it, apparently:

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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2013, 07:36:51 AM »

Latin, at least, has a certain currency in academic circles, scientific circles and is used by the Church of Rome in its official documents. To a very limited circle of folks, it is spoken (albeit with a strong Italiante inflection.)

To my knowledge, liturgical Church Slavonic has no currency outside of its ceremonial, liturgical usage and for some historical research.

Ancient Greek...I suppose it has literary and academic use as well.

Now, if you have first editions of the CS Hobbit and Harry Potter.....


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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2013, 07:44:19 AM »

Waiting for Harry Potter translated into Church Slavonic.
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