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« on: September 09, 2013, 03:37:25 PM »

stupid question ... but I'm curious, does the green dot of warning ever go away?   If it does lapse is that based on time or number of acceptable posts or both?


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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2013, 03:50:15 PM »

From what I've observed, it's a time issue. One is warned/moderated for X number of days, and eventually reverts to normal at the end of the time period.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2013, 04:11:17 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2013, 04:29:00 PM »


LOL!  The Green Dot and the warning both expire after the time of the warning passes.

In other words, if someone is warned for 14 days...on day 15, the dot will be gone, and the poster returned to non-warned status.

However, with each subsequent rule break (especially if the same rule is repeatedly broken), the warning duration increases, and at times leads to post moderation or even getting banned from the Forum. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2013, 04:47:42 PM »

From what I've observed, it's a time issue. One is warned/moderated for X number of days, and eventually reverts to normal at the end of the time period.

Sort of.  That is what happens to the "green" (Warned) dot.  But for Post Moderated or Muted status, once your time at that level is complete, your status downgrades one level to the next lower level for the same period of time.

Ex: If you are Muted for 15 days, then following those 15 days the system will place you on Post Moderation for 15, then Warned for 15, and then your status will be cleared up.
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2013, 06:15:06 PM »

Well not me.

I'm always on my period.
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2013, 09:14:37 PM »

Well not me.

I'm always on my period.

how long has it been?
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2013, 10:17:39 PM »

Better a green dot here than a red reputation elsewhere, I always say.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2013, 10:18:56 PM »

Well not me.

I'm always on my period.
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2013, 10:26:33 PM »

Yes. There is hope. The green dot has followed me for much of my time here on OC.net. Holy water, prayers, and contrition still didn't help. After a while I learned to accept the green dot as my friend. And then, in time, it vanished. It reappears every now and then, but for the most part it has left me alone. So do not despair.  Wink



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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2013, 01:48:43 AM »

Yes. There is hope. The green dot has followed me for much of my time here on OC.net. Holy water, prayers, and contrition still didn't help. After a while I learned to accept the green dot as my friend. And then, in time, it vanished. It reappears every now and then, but for the most part it has left me alone. So do not despair.  Wink



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Does God have the power to remove a green dot from a forum computer database? Why has he never done any miracles with the computer?

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Does God have the power to remove a green dot from a forum computer database? Why has he never done any miracles with the computer?

"So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you. The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. (Romans 13:1-4)"

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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2013, 07:43:54 AM »

Well not me.

I'm always on my period.
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2013, 08:06:06 AM »

I think the green dot follows the blue dot in your vision.

(sorry, couldn't resist!  Grin)
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2013, 12:23:32 PM »

Well not me.

I'm always on my period.

Use it for spotting while it lasts. Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2013, 12:26:58 PM »

No, it doesn't go away.
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2013, 01:54:26 PM »

I think the green dot follows the blue dot in your vision.

(sorry, couldn't resist!  Grin)

 Wink  so far so good ... I've not gone that far, yet.
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2013, 02:42:42 PM »

No, it doesn't go away.

you and Gebre both seem like very nice people to me... which makes me wonder how close to the edge I might be without even knowing it. 

... which reminds me of Bill Clinton being asked how he felt about being listed as the 51st biggest scandal in history to which he replied "what's a guy gotta do to get into the top 50?"
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2013, 03:17:50 PM »

I've never been dotted, although, given the stupidity of most of my posts, I have no idea how I have managed to avoid it.
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2013, 03:18:59 PM »

No, it doesn't go away.

you and Gebre both seem like very nice people to me... which makes me wonder how close to the edge I might be without even knowing it. 

... which reminds me of Bill Clinton being asked how he felt about being listed as the 51st biggest scandal in history to which he replied "what's a guy gotta do to get into the top 50?"

You won't get warned if you don't make overly agressive posts and things like that (oh, and don't forget the titles of hierarchs!). Lots of people have thousands of posts and never or only once or twice got warned.
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2013, 03:29:14 PM »

I've been warned twice. Once was what I would call a technicality (I used a forbidden word to refer to a particular religious group in what I figured was an allowable context, since it was referring to why we shouldn't use that word...), the other was me being less than irenic about Islam. If I'm honest with myself, I have to admit that both would have been avoidable by simply not posting regarding those subjects (of course now I realize that this is preferable, moderation or no moderation). A modicum of discretion can go a long way to keeping any dots off you.
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2013, 03:31:05 PM »

I have talked about all sorts of explicit sexual stuff, I have said extremely nasty things that someone shouldn't say to their worst enemy, I have posted pics that were deemed offensive, I have send PMs that were probably worthy of getting me banned, I have had people accuse me of proselytizing for atheism (lulz)... all without even an informal warning.

However, I also accidentally forgot to put "saint" in front of someone's name once, and I was moderated for that.

There is no rhyme or reason to this place. Just don't be a jerk and you'll probably be ok. Unless you forget to follow an obscure rule. But ignorance is no excuse!

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2013, 03:36:48 PM »

I considered once starting a thread called "Earning your Spot" whereby you could post offensive things and get warned or moderated without disrupting the rest of the forum, yet still have the coolness factor of having a spot.  I abandoned the idea for obvious reasons.  angel
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2013, 03:39:34 PM »

I have talked about all sorts of explicit sexual stuff, I have said extremely nasty things that someone shouldn't say to their worst enemy, I have posted pics that were deemed offensive, I have send PMs that were probably worthy of getting me banned, I have had people accuse me of proselytizing for atheism (lulz)... all without even an informal warning.

However, I also accidentally forgot to put "saint" in front of someone's name once, and I was moderated for that.

There is no rhyme or reason to this place. Just don't be a jerk and you'll probably be ok. Unless you forget to follow an obscure rule. But ignorance is no excuse!

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You sure?

You had a couple of more deserved dots:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,36653.msg578576.html#msg578576
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,36425.msg574529.html#msg574529
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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2013, 03:44:31 PM »

I have talked about all sorts of explicit sexual stuff, I have said extremely nasty things that someone shouldn't say to their worst enemy, I have posted pics that were deemed offensive, I have send PMs that were probably worthy of getting me banned, I have had people accuse me of proselytizing for atheism (lulz)... all without even an informal warning.

However, I also accidentally forgot to put "saint" in front of someone's name once, and I was moderated for that.

There is no rhyme or reason to this place. Just don't be a jerk and you'll probably be ok. Unless you forget to follow an obscure rule. But ignorance is no excuse!

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You sure?

You had a couple of more deserved dots:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,36653.msg578576.html#msg578576
I've had several dots. Not sure this one (in the link) was deserved, considering that within the last month someone gave personal info of a poster away and didn't get a warning (not publically anyway). But then I never said you guys were consistent in your moderation (which I'm thankful for...)
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2013, 03:53:44 PM »

Not sure this one (in the link) was deserved, considering that within the last month someone gave personal info of a poster away and didn't get a warning (not publically anyway).

Don't worry.

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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2013, 03:56:11 PM »

Fair enough. And just to be clear, in general I think you guys do a great job here. It's the only forum I still participate at regularly, after who knows how many dozens of forums over 15 or so years on the internet.
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2013, 04:08:30 PM »

I considered once starting a thread called "Earning your Spot" whereby you could post offensive things and get warned or moderated without disrupting the rest of the forum, yet still have the coolness factor of having a spot.  I abandoned the idea for obvious reasons.  angel

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« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2013, 11:40:39 PM »

I've never been dotted, although, given the stupidity of most of my posts, I have no idea how I have managed to avoid it.
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I've never been dotted, although, given the stupidity of most of my posts, I have no idea how I have managed to avoid it.
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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2013, 03:49:39 PM »

I've never been dotted, although, given the stupidity of most of my posts, I have no idea how I have managed to avoid it.
Never say never... Wink
I am under no illusion that I will never be dotted in the future.  I figure I am on borrowed time.  But to date, I haven't received such an annointing.  angel

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I've never been dotted, although, given the stupidity of most of my posts, I have no idea how I have managed to avoid it.
Never say never... Wink
I am under no illusion that I will never be dotted in the future.  I figure I am on borrowed time.  But to date, I haven't received such an annointing.  angel

If you ever want to get dotted, I have several post ideas that have been developing for years which I would be willing to share with you.
Keep in mind that I would prefer not to get banned.  The coolness quotient on the red dot is way low. 

I don't know how my poledancing thread did not warrant a green dot at minimum. Apparently, the mods have mercy.  Cheesy
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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2013, 11:49:12 PM »

I've been warned twice. Once was what I would call a technicality (I used a forbidden word to refer to a particular religious group in what I figured was an allowable context, since it was referring to why we shouldn't use that word...), the other was me being less than irenic about Islam. If I'm honest with myself, I have to admit that both would have been avoidable by simply not posting regarding those subjects (of course now I realize that this is preferable, moderation or no moderation). A modicum of discretion can go a long way to keeping any dots off you.

this right here is the whole point of post moderation.
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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2013, 12:04:59 AM »

I've been warned twice. Once was what I would call a technicality (I used a forbidden word to refer to a particular religious group in what I figured was an allowable context, since it was referring to why we shouldn't use that word...), the other was me being less than irenic about Islam. If I'm honest with myself, I have to admit that both would have been avoidable by simply not posting regarding those subjects (of course now I realize that this is preferable, moderation or no moderation). A modicum of discretion can go a long way to keeping any dots off you.

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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2013, 02:48:54 AM »

Or how long do you have to wait before you find out why you have been warned?
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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2013, 03:35:54 AM »

Or how long do you have to wait before you find out why you have been warned?

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« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2013, 03:49:28 AM »

No, it doesn't go away.

you and Gebre both seem like very nice people to me... which makes me wonder how close to the edge I might be without even knowing it. 

... which reminds me of Bill Clinton being asked how he felt about being listed as the 51st biggest scandal in history to which he replied "what's a guy gotta do to get into the top 50?"

I am one of the worst humans here by nearly all accounts and yet I would bet on a time spent here to dot ratio, I hold the record the best behaved, if not, then I am in the top three.

It helps to know the rules and follow them and have a relatively stable psyche.

So read the rules, follow them, and well get that red laser which looks blue taken care of.

Best of luck. Really this place is rather sane in terms of moderation, especially given the ostensible subject matter this place is about.
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« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2013, 04:11:01 AM »

Or how long do you have to wait before you find out why you have been warned?

You don't have the access to Politics, do you?

You were warned for posting political message in the public fora. That thread was moved to the Politics section so unless you do not have an access there, you could not read the warning message.
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« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2013, 06:01:01 AM »

Or how long do you have to wait before you find out why you have been warned?

You don't have the access to Politics, do you?

You were warned for posting political message in the public fora. That thread was moved to the Politics section so unless you do not have an access there, you could not read the warning message.

And it's me that's Irish! So in essence I been warned but the substance of that was moved to an area off limits to me. You couldn't make it up.

At least thank you for filling in a gap.....
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« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2013, 07:53:42 AM »

Or how long do you have to wait before you find out why you have been warned?

You don't have the access to Politics, do you?

You were warned for posting political message in the public fora. That thread was moved to the Politics section so unless you do not have an access there, you could not read the warning message.

And it's me that's Irish! So in essence I been warned but the substance of that was moved to an area off limits to me. You couldn't make it up.

At least thank you for filling in a gap.....
...and this is where you PM a mod and get more info.
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« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2013, 07:54:34 AM »

Speaking of, I remember getting a PM from a mod when I was moderated, telling me why/what happened.
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