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« on: September 08, 2013, 12:36:35 PM »

How can we know the deeds of the devil from the deeds of God. The work of the Devil from the work of God. How do we discern if something that happens in our lives is from God or from the Devil. When we suffer how do we know if the suffering is from God meant to make us right with God or from the devil, a delusion? What I mean is I often have the impression that I am suffering all sort of afflictions and injustices, unjustly. What is the purpose of that suffering of mine? How can I know where it comes from? I don't have an valid answer as to why I am suffering what I am other than suffering unjustly. Also how can we know is our joy is from God or from the devil?
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2013, 01:10:17 PM »

How can we know the deeds of the devil from the deeds of God. The work of the Devil from the work of God. How do we discern if something that happens in our lives is from God or from the Devil. When we suffer how do we know if the suffering is from God meant to make us right with God or from the devil, a delusion? What I mean is I often have the impression that I am suffering all sort of afflictions and injustices, unjustly. What is the purpose of that suffering of mine? How can I know where it comes from? I don't have an valid answer as to why I am suffering what I am other than suffering unjustly. Also how can we know is our joy is from God or from the devil?

Your questions are as old as scripture.  Seriously, study Job. You'll find God's answer there. Lord, have mercy.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2013, 03:12:01 PM »

Is there no room for the natural? Not every action can be considered of the devil because his will not omnipresent, some things are just natural challanges which we still have to persevere through.

And I also reccomend reading the book of Job.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2013, 02:19:20 AM »

How can we know the deeds of the devil from the deeds of God. The work of the Devil from the work of God. How do we discern if something that happens in our lives is from God or from the Devil. When we suffer how do we know if the suffering is from God meant to make us right with God or from the devil, a delusion? What I mean is I often have the impression that I am suffering all sort of afflictions and injustices, unjustly. What is the purpose of that suffering of mine? How can I know where it comes from? I don't have an valid answer as to why I am suffering what I am other than suffering unjustly. Also how can we know is our joy is from God or from the devil?

Your questions are as old as scripture.  Seriously, study Job. You'll find God's answer there. Lord, have mercy.

That answer being?

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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2013, 02:22:23 AM »

How can we know the deeds of the devil from the deeds of God. The work of the Devil from the work of God. How do we discern if something that happens in our lives is from God or from the Devil. When we suffer how do we know if the suffering is from God meant to make us right with God or from the devil, a delusion? What I mean is I often have the impression that I am suffering all sort of afflictions and injustices, unjustly. What is the purpose of that suffering of mine? How can I know where it comes from? I don't have an valid answer as to why I am suffering what I am other than suffering unjustly. Also how can we know is our joy is from God or from the devil?

Your questions are as old as scripture.  Seriously, study Job. You'll find God's answer there. Lord, have mercy.

That answer being?



Have you studied the book of Job as others have recommended?
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2013, 02:27:11 AM »

How can we know the deeds of the devil from the deeds of God. The work of the Devil from the work of God. How do we discern if something that happens in our lives is from God or from the Devil. When we suffer how do we know if the suffering is from God meant to make us right with God or from the devil, a delusion? What I mean is I often have the impression that I am suffering all sort of afflictions and injustices, unjustly. What is the purpose of that suffering of mine? How can I know where it comes from? I don't have an valid answer as to why I am suffering what I am other than suffering unjustly. Also how can we know is our joy is from God or from the devil?

Your questions are as old as scripture.  Seriously, study Job. You'll find God's answer there. Lord, have mercy.

That answer being?



Have you studied the book of Job as others have recommended?

Yes. I know the whole bible, and I can't say it is not an offensive read. I read the book of Job multiple times.

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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2013, 02:28:32 AM »

How can we know the deeds of the devil from the deeds of God. The work of the Devil from the work of God. How do we discern if something that happens in our lives is from God or from the Devil. When we suffer how do we know if the suffering is from God meant to make us right with God or from the devil, a delusion? What I mean is I often have the impression that I am suffering all sort of afflictions and injustices, unjustly. What is the purpose of that suffering of mine? How can I know where it comes from? I don't have an valid answer as to why I am suffering what I am other than suffering unjustly. Also how can we know is our joy is from God or from the devil?

Your questions are as old as scripture.  Seriously, study Job. You'll find God's answer there. Lord, have mercy.

That answer being?



Have you studied the book of Job as others have recommended?

Yes. I know the whole bible, and I can't say it is not an offensive read. I read the book of Job multiple times.



So, if you're familiar with the book of Job, what can you find in it which answers your question?
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2013, 02:31:27 AM »

How can we know the deeds of the devil from the deeds of God. The work of the Devil from the work of God. How do we discern if something that happens in our lives is from God or from the Devil. When we suffer how do we know if the suffering is from God meant to make us right with God or from the devil, a delusion? What I mean is I often have the impression that I am suffering all sort of afflictions and injustices, unjustly. What is the purpose of that suffering of mine? How can I know where it comes from? I don't have an valid answer as to why I am suffering what I am other than suffering unjustly. Also how can we know is our joy is from God or from the devil?

Your questions are as old as scripture.  Seriously, study Job. You'll find God's answer there. Lord, have mercy.

That answer being?



Have you studied the book of Job as others have recommended?

Yes. I know the whole bible, and I can't say it is not an offensive read. I read the book of Job multiple times.



So, if you're familiar with the book of Job, what can you find in it which answers your question?

Nothing. You guys are really "extraordinary". If I would already know the answer I wouldn't come asking about it in here.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2013, 02:35:24 AM »

How can we know the deeds of the devil from the deeds of God. The work of the Devil from the work of God. How do we discern if something that happens in our lives is from God or from the Devil. When we suffer how do we know if the suffering is from God meant to make us right with God or from the devil, a delusion? What I mean is I often have the impression that I am suffering all sort of afflictions and injustices, unjustly. What is the purpose of that suffering of mine? How can I know where it comes from? I don't have an valid answer as to why I am suffering what I am other than suffering unjustly. Also how can we know is our joy is from God or from the devil?

Your questions are as old as scripture.  Seriously, study Job. You'll find God's answer there. Lord, have mercy.

That answer being?



Have you studied the book of Job as others have recommended?

Yes. I know the whole bible, and I can't say it is not an offensive read. I read the book of Job multiple times.



So, if you're familiar with the book of Job, what can you find in it which answers your question?

Nothing. You guys are really "extraordinary". If I would already know the answer I wouldn't come asking about it in here.

It sounds like you're asking us to do your homework for you.  Huh
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2013, 02:38:03 AM »

How can we know the deeds of the devil from the deeds of God. The work of the Devil from the work of God. How do we discern if something that happens in our lives is from God or from the Devil. When we suffer how do we know if the suffering is from God meant to make us right with God or from the devil, a delusion? What I mean is I often have the impression that I am suffering all sort of afflictions and injustices, unjustly. What is the purpose of that suffering of mine? How can I know where it comes from? I don't have an valid answer as to why I am suffering what I am other than suffering unjustly. Also how can we know is our joy is from God or from the devil?

Your questions are as old as scripture.  Seriously, study Job. You'll find God's answer there. Lord, have mercy.

That answer being?



Have you studied the book of Job as others have recommended?

Yes. I know the whole bible, and I can't say it is not an offensive read. I read the book of Job multiple times.



So, if you're familiar with the book of Job, what can you find in it which answers your question?

Nothing. You guys are really "extraordinary". If I would already know the answer I wouldn't come asking about it in here.

It sounds like you're asking us to do your homework for you.  Huh

profane ad hominem removed I thought this was a forum. This problem is real in my life, I am in a very low condition and I can't explain why. profane ad hominem removed I am a human being not a nick on a screen.



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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2013, 02:39:57 AM »

How can we know the deeds of the devil from the deeds of God. The work of the Devil from the work of God. How do we discern if something that happens in our lives is from God or from the Devil. When we suffer how do we know if the suffering is from God meant to make us right with God or from the devil, a delusion? What I mean is I often have the impression that I am suffering all sort of afflictions and injustices, unjustly. What is the purpose of that suffering of mine? How can I know where it comes from? I don't have an valid answer as to why I am suffering what I am other than suffering unjustly. Also how can we know is our joy is from God or from the devil?

Your questions are as old as scripture.  Seriously, study Job. You'll find God's answer there. Lord, have mercy.

That answer being?



Have you studied the book of Job as others have recommended?

Yes. I know the whole bible, and I can't say it is not an offensive read. I read the book of Job multiple times.



So, if you're familiar with the book of Job, what can you find in it which answers your question?

Nothing. You guys are really "extraordinary". If I would already know the answer I wouldn't come asking about it in here.

It sounds like you're asking us to do your homework for you.  Huh

profane ad hominem removed I thought this was a forum. This problem is real in my life, I am in a very low condition and I can't explain why. profane ad hominem removed I am a human being not a nick on a screen.

So have you spoken to your priest about your problem?



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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2013, 03:47:47 PM »

Is there a way to discern between the deeds of the devil and the deeds of God? Esspecially in regards to faith(what to believe) and doubt(what to doubt) and emotions (joy, sadness)? Is there a joy from the devil? Is there a sadness from God?
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