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Caballine Nectar
« on: August 30, 2013, 02:48:27 PM »
Open sky and trampling hooves,
O, this precious life of mine;
For the eternal curse of thirst,
Caballine nectar is divine


« Last Edit: August 30, 2013, 02:48:53 PM by hecma925 »
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2013, 03:14:17 PM »
Open sky and trampling hooves,
O, this precious life of mine;
For the eternal curse of thirst,
Caballine nectar is divine




This is the kind of poetry I can understand.  Truly sublime.  (Do you write advertising jingles  ;D.)

I voted for option #3.  



I wonder what the little black thingees floating in it are?


EDIT:  Answered my own question--Northwestern Mongolian earwax!!
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 03:31:25 PM »
If this is a sexual euphemism I may be interested.
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2013, 03:34:17 PM »
If this is a sexual euphemism I may be interested.

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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2013, 04:00:55 PM »
If this is a sexual euphemism I may be interested.

You could always make it into one.  ;D


EDIT:  But, should you?
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2013, 08:47:49 PM »
If this is a sexual euphemism I may be interested.

As I learned in literary criticism classes, you can certainly interpret it anyway.  I would be more impressed in seeing a feminist-Marxist analysis of the poem, but a Freudian analysis is fine.  It says much more about you than me. ;D  Or I just have the pure mind of an artist.
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2013, 08:57:51 PM »
Nectar is the ambrosia or liquid extract of fruit.
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2013, 11:54:43 AM »
Nectar is the ambrosia or liquid extract of fruit.

And....??
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2013, 11:57:22 AM »
Nectar is the ambrosia or liquid extract of fruit.

And....??

And ... that's what Nectar is ... liquid extract from fruit.

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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2013, 12:25:51 PM »
Nectar is the ambrosia or liquid extract of fruit.

And....??

And ... that's what Nectar is ...sugar-rich liquid produced by extract from fruit plants.

Fixed it.

Oh.  Okay.  I thought you were making some point I wasn't getting.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2013, 01:05:17 PM »
What is this claiming here, except that equal rights should be had by all women, and that men must yield to our power as women? Let us consider:

Open sky and trampling hooves,

Thus the stage is set. Men and their war mongering, destroying the beauty of earth and sky. Men, who cannot but indulge their wicked blood-lust. Their proclivity for violence knows no bounds. Why hooves, except to point that men are nothing but filthy animals, when not reigned in by the civilizing touch of women! Men would destroy all in their greed--for money, power and fame--if they were allowed to. There would be no escape from them. The continuous war cry of men echoes through the centuries: “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs," by which is meant that each man gives what he is able on the battlefield, and in return his "need" for spoils are satiated if he can manage victory. He speaks of his greed and lust as a need! How perfectly male, how perfectly bourgeois.

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O, this precious life of mine;

And so the lament of the forlorn woman continues. Men cannot fathom the true potential of life. They cannot understand the glory of existence. Nothing is precious to them except their [member]. And war and greed and all that consumes them are nothing but an extension of their [member]. The neurobiologic imperative is clear: men must constantly feed the ego of their [member] or perish. But of course, it is a slow, emasculating death. And for a man, who knows neither the wonders of equality, nor the equanimity of femininity, masculinity is all that he has. Yes, it is so poor a replacement as to be laughable. So impotent, so useless; to wit: so male. It is but an empty shell compared to womynhood, comared to the fragrance of the feminine. And as the poetess points out, it is for each women--"mine"! she owns it for herself!--to take what is rightfully hers, and avenge it upon the male twenty fold. This much is clear from the line quoted. I explain all of this for the young children who may be reading this poem for the first time. But what may not be so obvious is how to understand what comes next:

Quote
For the eternal curse of thirst,

What is meant by this? She is being sarcastic! Indeed, what can "eternal curse" here be speaking of except that oppressive, inane myth of the Judeo-Christian religious power, which says that our Mother Eve fell from grace, and manipulated the man. What can be more absurd? We all know that a woman would not be so easily deceived, and that it must have been the man, Adam, who fell. Then, by physical force, and in cooperation with the other beasts of the earth (represented by the serpent), they were able to force Eve to give up her rightful place, her divine destiny. Of course this story was written by men, so it makes men out to be the victims. Men are never the victims, even when they are the ones victimized! This is enough.

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Caballine nectar is divine[/i]

And so we come to the end of this passage. What can we say here? The subtlety and sophistication of the line is breath-taking. Truly it is. What man could hope to match the depth of thought and breadth of experience manifested in this line? Capitalism must yield before the honor and power of such truths. But it is better to leave the main part here unsaid. I will not cast my pearls--all our pearls!--before swine. And that men are swine is axiomatic. We must leave such conversations for when it is only the [member-less] who are present, for some dastardly male may some day get his hands on this interpretation, and if a women has condescended to teach him to read--what then? Should we parade the secrets of life before such creatures as men? No! Life may be fleeting, but the beauty of life is not so lowly as all that, to be cast out into the public arena, for any man who comes along to trample under hoof!
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2013, 01:20:09 PM »
What is this claiming here, except that equal rights should be had by all women, and that men must yield to our power as women? Let us consider:

Open sky and trampling hooves,

Thus the stage is set. Men and their war mongering, destroying the beauty of earth and sky. Men, who cannot but indulge their wicked blood-lust. Their proclivity for violence knows no bounds. Why hooves, except to point that men are nothing but filthy animals, when not reigned in by the civilizing touch of women! Men would destroy all in their greed--for money, power and fame--if they were allowed to. There would be no escape from them. The continuous war cry of men echoes through the centuries: “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs," by which is meant that each man gives what he is able on the battlefield, and in return his "need" for spoils are satiated if he can manage victory. He speaks of his greed and lust as a need! How perfectly male, how perfectly bourgeois.

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O, this precious life of mine;

And so the lament of the forlorn woman continues. Men cannot fathom the true potential of life. They cannot understand the glory of existence. Nothing is precious to them except their [member]. And war and greed and all that consumes them are nothing but an extension of their [member]. The neurobiologic imperative is clear: men must constantly feed the ego of their [member] or perish. But of course, it is a slow, emasculating death. And for a man, who knows neither the wonders of equality, nor the equanimity of femininity, masculinity is all that he has. Yes, it is so poor a replacement as to be laughable. So impotent, so useless; to wit: so male. It is but an empty shell compared to womynhood, comared to the fragrance of the feminine. And as the poetess points out, it is for each women--"mine"! she owns it for herself!--to take what is rightfully hers, and avenge it upon the male twenty fold. This much is clear from the line quoted. I explain all of this for the young children who may be reading this poem for the first time. But what may not be so obvious is how to understand what comes next:

Quote
For the eternal curse of thirst,

What is meant by this? She is being sarcastic! Indeed, what can "eternal curse" here be speaking of except that oppressive, inane myth of the Judeo-Christian religious power, which says that our Mother Eve fell from grace, and manipulated the man. What can be more absurd? We all know that a woman would not be so easily deceived, and that it must have been the man, Adam, who fell. Then, by physical force, and in cooperation with the other beasts of the earth (represented by the serpent), they were able to force Eve to give up her rightful place, her divine destiny. Of course this story was written by men, so it makes men out to be the victims. Men are never the victims, even when they are the ones victimized! This is enough.

Quote
Caballine nectar is divine[/i]

And so we come to the end of this passage. What can we say here? The subtlety and sophistication of the line is breath-taking. Truly it is. What man could hope to match the depth of thought and breadth of experience manifested in this line? Capitalism must yield before the honor and power of such truths. But it is better to leave the main part here unsaid. I will not cast my pearls--all our pearls!--before swine. And that men are swine is axiomatic. We must leave such conversations for when it is only the [member-less] who are present, for some dastardly male may some day get his hands on this interpretation, and if a women has condescended to teach him to read--what then? Should we parade the secrets of life before such creatures as men? No! Life may be fleeting, but the beauty of life is not so lowly as all that, to be cast out into the public arena, for any man who comes along to trample under hoof!

Taking nothing at all away from your mellifluous exegesis, I have a question for you--Is it a blessing or an affliction to have too much spare time?  ;)
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2013, 01:35:27 PM »
What is this claiming here, except that equal rights should be had by all women, and that men must yield to our power as women? Let us consider:

Open sky and trampling hooves,

Thus the stage is set. Men and their war mongering, destroying the beauty of earth and sky. Men, who cannot but indulge their wicked blood-lust. Their proclivity for violence knows no bounds. Why hooves, except to point that men are nothing but filthy animals, when not reigned in by the civilizing touch of women! Men would destroy all in their greed--for money, power and fame--if they were allowed to. There would be no escape from them. The continuous war cry of men echoes through the centuries: “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs," by which is meant that each man gives what he is able on the battlefield, and in return his "need" for spoils are satiated if he can manage victory. He speaks of his greed and lust as a need! How perfectly male, how perfectly bourgeois.

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O, this precious life of mine;

And so the lament of the forlorn woman continues. Men cannot fathom the true potential of life. They cannot understand the glory of existence. Nothing is precious to them except their [member]. And war and greed and all that consumes them are nothing but an extension of their [member]. The neurobiologic imperative is clear: men must constantly feed the ego of their [member] or perish. But of course, it is a slow, emasculating death. And for a man, who knows neither the wonders of equality, nor the equanimity of femininity, masculinity is all that he has. Yes, it is so poor a replacement as to be laughable. So impotent, so useless; to wit: so male. It is but an empty shell compared to womynhood, comared to the fragrance of the feminine. And as the poetess points out, it is for each women--"mine"! she owns it for herself!--to take what is rightfully hers, and avenge it upon the male twenty fold. This much is clear from the line quoted. I explain all of this for the young children who may be reading this poem for the first time. But what may not be so obvious is how to understand what comes next:

Quote
For the eternal curse of thirst,

What is meant by this? She is being sarcastic! Indeed, what can "eternal curse" here be speaking of except that oppressive, inane myth of the Judeo-Christian religious power, which says that our Mother Eve fell from grace, and manipulated the man. What can be more absurd? We all know that a woman would not be so easily deceived, and that it must have been the man, Adam, who fell. Then, by physical force, and in cooperation with the other beasts of the earth (represented by the serpent), they were able to force Eve to give up her rightful place, her divine destiny. Of course this story was written by men, so it makes men out to be the victims. Men are never the victims, even when they are the ones victimized! This is enough.

Quote
Caballine nectar is divine[/i]

And so we come to the end of this passage. What can we say here? The subtlety and sophistication of the line is breath-taking. Truly it is. What man could hope to match the depth of thought and breadth of experience manifested in this line? Capitalism must yield before the honor and power of such truths. But it is better to leave the main part here unsaid. I will not cast my pearls--all our pearls!--before swine. And that men are swine is axiomatic. We must leave such conversations for when it is only the [member-less] who are present, for some dastardly male may some day get his hands on this interpretation, and if a women has condescended to teach him to read--what then? Should we parade the secrets of life before such creatures as men? No! Life may be fleeting, but the beauty of life is not so lowly as all that, to be cast out into the public arena, for any man who comes along to trample under hoof!


Okay, and your point...?

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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2013, 01:41:15 PM »
Ummmm

Kumiss... I've had it made with cow's milk long ago.  It wasn't bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumiss


Caballine - related to horses.  Many places make Kumiss from mare's milk.  Never had that kind.

Of course with the interesting explication of the poem perhaps the Caballine Spring is intended to be part if this.  Also known as "Hippocrene" to drink of its water was to gain "poetic inspiration"

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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2013, 01:42:08 PM »
So does the OP have a source for mare's milk kumis?
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2013, 04:45:42 PM »
A+ on the literary critique.  Bonus points on trampling Judaeo-Christian tradition.  Bravo!

What is this claiming here, except that equal rights should be had by all women, and that men must yield to our power as women? Let us consider:

Open sky and trampling hooves,

Thus the stage is set. Men and their war mongering, destroying the beauty of earth and sky. Men, who cannot but indulge their wicked blood-lust. Their proclivity for violence knows no bounds. Why hooves, except to point that men are nothing but filthy animals, when not reigned in by the civilizing touch of women! Men would destroy all in their greed--for money, power and fame--if they were allowed to. There would be no escape from them. The continuous war cry of men echoes through the centuries: “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs," by which is meant that each man gives what he is able on the battlefield, and in return his "need" for spoils are satiated if he can manage victory. He speaks of his greed and lust as a need! How perfectly male, how perfectly bourgeois.

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O, this precious life of mine;

And so the lament of the forlorn woman continues. Men cannot fathom the true potential of life. They cannot understand the glory of existence. Nothing is precious to them except their [member]. And war and greed and all that consumes them are nothing but an extension of their [member]. The neurobiologic imperative is clear: men must constantly feed the ego of their [member] or perish. But of course, it is a slow, emasculating death. And for a man, who knows neither the wonders of equality, nor the equanimity of femininity, masculinity is all that he has. Yes, it is so poor a replacement as to be laughable. So impotent, so useless; to wit: so male. It is but an empty shell compared to womynhood, comared to the fragrance of the feminine. And as the poetess points out, it is for each women--"mine"! she owns it for herself!--to take what is rightfully hers, and avenge it upon the male twenty fold. This much is clear from the line quoted. I explain all of this for the young children who may be reading this poem for the first time. But what may not be so obvious is how to understand what comes next:

Quote
For the eternal curse of thirst,

What is meant by this? She is being sarcastic! Indeed, what can "eternal curse" here be speaking of except that oppressive, inane myth of the Judeo-Christian religious power, which says that our Mother Eve fell from grace, and manipulated the man. What can be more absurd? We all know that a woman would not be so easily deceived, and that it must have been the man, Adam, who fell. Then, by physical force, and in cooperation with the other beasts of the earth (represented by the serpent), they were able to force Eve to give up her rightful place, her divine destiny. Of course this story was written by men, so it makes men out to be the victims. Men are never the victims, even when they are the ones victimized! This is enough.

Quote
Caballine nectar is divine[/i]

And so we come to the end of this passage. What can we say here? The subtlety and sophistication of the line is breath-taking. Truly it is. What man could hope to match the depth of thought and breadth of experience manifested in this line? Capitalism must yield before the honor and power of such truths. But it is better to leave the main part here unsaid. I will not cast my pearls--all our pearls!--before swine. And that men are swine is axiomatic. We must leave such conversations for when it is only the [member-less] who are present, for some dastardly male may some day get his hands on this interpretation, and if a women has condescended to teach him to read--what then? Should we parade the secrets of life before such creatures as men? No! Life may be fleeting, but the beauty of life is not so lowly as all that, to be cast out into the public arena, for any man who comes along to trample under hoof!
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2013, 04:46:20 PM »
So does the OP have a source for mare's milk kumis?


Ah, yes.  Mongolia!  Or Uzbekistan.  It takes some time to get, though.
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2013, 04:49:24 PM »
Nectar is the ambrosia or liquid extract of fruit.

Are you trying to say that horses are fruit?  Neigh, thou art mad.
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2013, 05:18:06 PM »
I had an opportunity to try kumis when I was living in China and I didn't take it... still kicking myself for it.
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2013, 05:29:29 PM »
Taking nothing at all away from your mellifluous exegesis, I have a question for you--Is it a blessing or an affliction to have too much spare time?  ;)

Actually I wish I would have taken a few minutes to edit it before posting. Now that I reread it I see at least a half dozen obvious mistakes, including at least two or three times when I said "women" instead of "woman." Anyway...  :angel:
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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2013, 05:31:12 PM »
Open sky and trampling hooves,
O, this precious life of mine;
For the eternal curse of thirst,
Caballine nectar is divine


But the question remains...

What is best in life?
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2013, 05:51:10 PM »
Nectar is the ambrosia or liquid extract of fruit.

Are you trying to say that horses are fruit?  Neigh, thou art mad.

OC.net is getting a lot of threads with silliness and gerrymandering ... How can you or most on here expect to be taken seriously?...

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Nectar is the ambrosia or liquid extract of fruit.

Are you trying to say that horses are fruit?  Neigh, thou art mad.

OC.net is getting a lot of threads with silliness and gerrymandering ... How can you or most on here expect to be taken seriously?...

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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2013, 05:58:35 PM »
How do you expect to be taken seriously?...

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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2013, 06:04:01 PM »
How do you expect to be taken seriously?...

Describe the last time you were eaten by a walrus.
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2013, 06:11:30 PM »
How do you expect to be taken seriously?...

Describe the last time you were eaten by a walrus.

Something that happens when you trip on shrooms?...
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2013, 06:13:52 PM »
How do you expect to be taken seriously?...

Describe the last time you were eaten by a walrus.

Something that happens when you trip on shrooms?...

I am not familiar with any study definitively linking the ingestion of hallucinogenic mushrooms with walrus predation. Remember, correlation is not causation.
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2013, 06:17:32 PM »
How do you expect to be taken seriously?...

Describe the last time you were eaten by a walrus.

Something that happens when you trip on shrooms?...

I am not familiar with any study definitively linking the ingestion of hallucinogenic mushrooms with walrus predation. Remember, correlation is not causation.

LOL  ??? ok.

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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2013, 06:21:29 PM »
I had an opportunity to try kumis when I was living in China and I didn't take it... still kicking myself for it.

It could be essentially the same thing as milk-creamer that goes in your coffee.

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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2013, 06:23:31 PM »
I had an opportunity to try kumis when I was living in China and I didn't take it... still kicking myself for it.

It could be essentially the same thing as milk-creamer that goes in your coffee.

Ogedei Khan didn't die of alcohol poisoning from drinking milk creamer, dude.
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2013, 06:25:30 PM »
Church Symposia, Russian chant, and Shrooms make a good combination

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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2013, 07:19:14 PM »
Nectar is the ambrosia or liquid extract of fruit.

Are you trying to say that horses are fruit?  Neigh, thou art mad.

OC.net is getting a lot of threads with silliness and gerrymandering ... How can you or most on here expect to be taken seriously?...
How can you expect to be taken seriously if you don't even know what gerrymandering is?
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2013, 07:21:21 PM »
Nectar is the ambrosia or liquid extract of fruit.

Are you trying to say that horses are fruit?  Neigh, thou art mad.

OC.net is getting a lot of threads with silliness and gerrymandering ... How can you or most on here expect to be taken seriously?...
How can you expect to be taken seriously if you don't even know what gerrymandering is?


Well, I could look it up in a dictionary.

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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2013, 09:20:27 PM »
I had an opportunity to try kumis when I was living in China and I didn't take it... still kicking myself for it.

It could be essentially the same thing as milk-creamer that goes in your coffee.

Ogedei Khan didn't die of alcohol poisoning from drinking milk creamer, dude.

No, he died a champion of caballine nectar or ambrosia, if you will.
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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2013, 11:32:15 PM »
How do you expect to be taken seriously?...

Describe the last time you were eaten by a walrus.

Something that happens when you trip on shrooms?...

And there I was expecting a more Jataka-like response.  :(

I guess you don't remember your previous lives either, do you?

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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2013, 08:46:58 PM »
How do you expect to be taken seriously?...

I only expect to be taken seriously when I write something serious (it does happen every now and then, much to my enormous surprise and against all my wishes for extreme silliness).  And sometimes, not even then.

Silly gerrymandered (gerrymandered??  yeah, I think you oughta look it up) threads are all part of life's great tapestry.  In fact, that same tapestry is hand-made with such threads.  Pick one, keep pulling on it, and you eventually get to where you are now, that is, oc.net ;D ;D
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2013, 08:58:52 AM »
How do you expect to be taken seriously?...

I only expect to be taken seriously when I write something serious (it does happen every now and then, much to my enormous surprise and against all my wishes for extreme silliness).  And sometimes, not even then.

Silly gerrymandered (gerrymandered??  yeah, I think you oughta look it up) threads are all part of life's great tapestry.  In fact, that same tapestry is hand-made with such threads.  Pick one, keep pulling on it, and you eventually get to where you are now, that is, oc.net ;D ;D

That is, by far, the most serious and lucid post I have ever come across on this forum.  Outstanding.  Thank you!
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2013, 02:48:29 PM »
Endless horizon coming forth,
Where betwixt the mountains lie
Verdant below and azure above;
As warriors of old, I shall die.
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2013, 02:54:45 PM »
Endless horizon coming forth,
Where betwixt the mountains lie
Verdant below and azure above;
As warriors of old, I shall die.


I would love to do an interpretation of this from my own perspective, but I don't think they'd allow it on this forum. I guess my interpretation of the second line as speaking of breasts might get a pass, but that third line? No way...  ;D :angel:
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2013, 02:56:23 PM »
Endless horizon coming forth,
Where betwixt the mountains lie
Verdant below and azure above;
As warriors of old, I shall die.


I would love to do an interpretation of this from my own perspective, but I don't think they'd allow it on this forum. I guess my interpretation of the second line as speaking of breasts might get a pass, but that third line? No way...  ;D :angel:

I...I'm afraid of your interpretation of the third line.   :laugh: 
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2013, 02:59:32 PM »
Well if the first line sets up the scene/image/tone, and the second line is about breasts (in the middle of the body, roughly), and the third line continues the sexual theme as it relates to a woman... what would something "verdant below" the breasts signify? See where I'm going with this?  :angel:
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2013, 03:03:16 PM »
Well if the first line sets up the scene/image/tone, and the second line is about breasts (in the middle of the body, roughly), and the third line continues the sexual theme as it relates to a woman... what would something "verdant below" the breasts signify? See where I'm going with this?  :angel:

Since we're going into a feminine mystique critique ::), I suppose it could mean lush as a field of green or green as inexperienced.  But really, it's just grass and sky.  Grass and sky!  lolololol
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« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2013, 03:06:43 PM »
It's about a lush, vibrant thicket, with connotations of happiness and fullness of life. I am telling you!  ;D :P
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Re: Caballine Nectar
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2013, 03:15:37 PM »
Tell me, what is the "endless horizon" in this context using this same critique?  You say that it sets the tone for this verse (or the poem itself[it's not finished]); how so?  I think that if you saw mountains as being figurative breasts, then perhaps the horizon is the whole form or body?  How does one interpret the last line of this verse, with this formula?
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