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« on: August 24, 2013, 06:27:37 PM »

Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2013, 06:28:45 PM »

Define 'local economy'?
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2013, 06:31:10 PM »

Well,

Your locality, the vicinity or area frequented daily

Could be a monastic community for example
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2013, 06:31:44 PM »

Do you have absolute control over your area?
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2013, 06:36:43 PM »

Do you have absolute control over your area?

No, its not like that - its generally shared by other townsfolk in Granbury, TX
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2013, 06:42:10 PM »

Do you have absolute control over your area?

LOL. 
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2013, 06:51:27 PM »

Define 'local economy'?

Here are 2 examples: ~

1 example is the money distribution model, where money is distributed to people in the area to buy stuff. ie (Food and Gas and Bill payments)

The other example is agrarian, where people work at farming produce and livestock. (The local village)
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2013, 06:53:46 PM »

Well, unless you are town mayor or something, the only economy you can affect is the balance of your own pocketbook.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2013, 07:02:45 PM »

Well, unless you are town mayor or something, the only economy you can affect is the balance of your own pocketbook.


 Roll Eyes You probably don't have any idea of what I'm talking about.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2013, 07:07:28 PM »

Well, unless you are town mayor or something, the only economy you can affect is the balance of your own pocketbook.


 Roll Eyes You probably don't have any idea of what I'm talking about.

No, probably not. I'm still trying to understand what you are trying to achieve.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2013, 07:11:36 PM »

The means

The means to achieve something to an end

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2013, 07:18:02 PM »

Maybe use lots of words?
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2013, 07:40:31 PM »

Did you want to open a business? I think you can get loans to do that. Or, you can look into a local civic society and see if they know how to do that. Try the Chamber of Commerce, maybe.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2013, 08:37:52 PM »

There's a saying: money makes the [local economy] go 'round. The big question is: do you allow Walmart to gain a foothold? It's either a foundation slab to build the economic health of a community upon, or the devil incarnate that destroys local business. Choose this day whom you will serve.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2013, 10:57:18 PM »

It is very easy.  Inject money into it.  Now that I have given you the answer, you simple need to go find the money.  Problem solved.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2013, 10:58:42 PM »

It is very easy.  Inject money into it.  Now that I have given you the answer, you simple need to go find the money.  Problem solved.

Some people don't know how to find the money though. You wouldn't believe how many people in the world have never visited a money tree farm, let alone planted one themselves.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2013, 11:01:13 PM »

It is very easy.  Inject money into it.  Now that I have given you the answer, you simple need to go find the money.  Problem solved.

Some people don't know how to find the money though. You wouldn't believe how many people in the world have never visited a money tree farm, let alone planted one themselves.
I find knocking over banks to be a quick, easy solution and you don't even need to plant the seeds for money trees.  Those seeds can be so temperamental, especially in the Texas climate.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2013, 11:53:51 PM »

Maybe your answer to this question, WPM, might help give us some insight on what you're trying to accomplish with this thread: What was your purpose for starting this thread on the Orthodox-Protestant Discussion board?
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2013, 11:37:47 AM »

Maybe your answer to this question, WPM, might help give us some insight on what you're trying to accomplish with this thread: What was your purpose for starting this thread on the Orthodox-Protestant Discussion board?

You're asking for the explanation of an explanation or for the reason of a reason.
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2013, 12:10:21 PM »

The actual mechanics of economy-building seems like a lot of work.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2013, 12:12:13 PM »

Did you want to open a business? I think you can get loans to do that. Or, you can look into a local civic society and see if they know how to do that. Try the Chamber of Commerce, maybe.

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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2013, 10:52:50 AM »

Build a business (product or service) and hire local people.  Spend your profits as locally as possible.
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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2013, 12:01:22 PM »

Build a business (product or service) and hire local people.  Spend your profits as locally as possible.

This takes money.  We're back to money.  Now, do you want to use your own money or other people's money?  If the latter, TheTri had a very good suggestion.  If the former, well, uh, hmmm......get a job and save it up.  Or something.
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2013, 12:12:54 PM »

Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Find something to provide or make that people want to have and will pay to have it. Then do provide or make it.
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Build a business (product or service) and hire local people.  Spend your profits as locally as possible.

This takes money.  We're back to money.  Now, do you want to use your own money or other people's money?  If the latter, TheTri had a very good suggestion.  If the former, well, uh, hmmm......get a job and save it up.  Or something.
Or something  J Michael will disagree with me, but a kimchi making business in your neck of the woods could be wildly popular.  You may have to encourage many Koreans to come to your town for this to work.  But then they will run you out of business.  Oh well, never mind.  I guess go to the local gas station and buy a candy bar can help that guy's business, thus aiding the local economy.
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2013, 12:35:54 PM »

Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Do you want to plant a colony or something?
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2013, 12:39:32 PM »

Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Do you want to plant a colony or something?

Or something  Open a Dutch brewery.  You know, brewing Dutch people, er...I mean beer.

Planting a colony takes rich (read, expensive) soil.  Besides, it would make him an evil colonialist.
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2013, 12:45:31 PM »

Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Do you want to plant a colony or something?

Or something  Open a Dutch brewery.  You know, brewing Dutch people, er...I mean beer.

Planting a colony takes rich (read, expensive) soil.  Besides, it would make him an evil colonialist.

Yeah, look at what happened to New Amsterdam.  Sheesh.  A brewery is a much better idea.
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2013, 01:11:25 PM »

Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Do you want to plant a colony or something?

Or something  Open a Dutch brewery.  You know, brewing Dutch people, er...I mean beer.

Planting a colony takes rich (read, expensive) soil.  Besides, it would make him an evil colonialist.

Yeah, look at what happened to New Amsterdam.  Sheesh.  A brewery is a much better idea.

We should never have traded New Amsterdam for Suriname.
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2013, 01:18:22 PM »

An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.
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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2013, 01:25:29 PM »

An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.
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An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}
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An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

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An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.
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An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2013, 05:52:46 PM »

Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Do you want to plant a colony or something?

Or something  Open a Dutch brewery.  You know, brewing Dutch people, er...I mean beer.

Planting a colony takes rich (read, expensive) soil.  Besides, it would make him an evil colonialist.

Not much harm done if it's a colony of ants. Or a wormery.
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An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.
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I read in a book somewhere that when the contradictions in the productive forces and the relations of production come to a head, a precipitous crisis will ensue, compelling the proletariat to revolt and install their dictatorship, which will gradually wither away after the reactionary elements are defeated and we have made the transition to a classless, moneyless economy based on the principle, "from each according to ability, to each according to need."
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« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2013, 06:23:40 PM »

Maybe your answer to this question, WPM, might help give us some insight on what you're trying to accomplish with this thread: What was your purpose for starting this thread on the Orthodox-Protestant Discussion board?

You're asking for the explanation of an explanation or for the reason of a reason.
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An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.
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An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.

Yeah...never heard of it.  Sounds excellent though!  These single seed thingees....are they communist, capitalist, or fascist?  On the face of it, though, they sound kinda anarchistic.  Hopefully not related to Occupy Earwax!  (Do seeds grow in earwax??)
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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2013, 09:18:36 AM »

An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.
I thought they used katana blades? Huh Grin

Aren't those for shaving?
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« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2013, 09:24:41 AM »

An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.
I thought they used katana blades? Huh Grin

That sounds almost as bad as some of the European and Middle Eastern toilet "paper" I've had the displeasure of making acquaintance with.  Brutal!
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« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2013, 09:25:08 AM »

An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.
I thought they used katana blades? Huh Grin

Aren't those for shaving?

Well....uh..........could be!
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« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2013, 09:27:15 AM »

I would never shave my beard off with a corn cob. 
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