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Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2013, 06:28:45 PM »
Define 'local economy'?
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2013, 06:31:10 PM »
Well,

Your locality, the vicinity or area frequented daily

Could be a monastic community for example
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2013, 06:31:44 PM »
Do you have absolute control over your area?
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2013, 06:36:43 PM »
Do you have absolute control over your area?

No, its not like that - its generally shared by other townsfolk in Granbury, TX

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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2013, 06:42:10 PM »
Do you have absolute control over your area?

LOL. 
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2013, 06:51:27 PM »
Define 'local economy'?

Here are 2 examples: ~

1 example is the money distribution model, where money is distributed to people in the area to buy stuff. ie (Food and Gas and Bill payments)

The other example is agrarian, where people work at farming produce and livestock. (The local village)
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2013, 06:53:46 PM »
Well, unless you are town mayor or something, the only economy you can affect is the balance of your own pocketbook.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2013, 07:02:45 PM »
Well, unless you are town mayor or something, the only economy you can affect is the balance of your own pocketbook.


 ::) You probably don't have any idea of what I'm talking about.

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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2013, 07:07:28 PM »
Well, unless you are town mayor or something, the only economy you can affect is the balance of your own pocketbook.


 ::) You probably don't have any idea of what I'm talking about.

No, probably not. I'm still trying to understand what you are trying to achieve.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2013, 07:11:36 PM »
The means

The means to achieve something to an end


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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2013, 07:18:02 PM »
Maybe use lots of words?
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2013, 07:40:31 PM »
Did you want to open a business? I think you can get loans to do that. Or, you can look into a local civic society and see if they know how to do that. Try the Chamber of Commerce, maybe.

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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2013, 08:37:52 PM »
There's a saying: money makes the [local economy] go 'round. The big question is: do you allow Walmart to gain a foothold? It's either a foundation slab to build the economic health of a community upon, or the devil incarnate that destroys local business. Choose this day whom you will serve.

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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2013, 10:57:18 PM »
It is very easy.  Inject money into it.  Now that I have given you the answer, you simple need to go find the money.  Problem solved.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2013, 10:58:42 PM »
It is very easy.  Inject money into it.  Now that I have given you the answer, you simple need to go find the money.  Problem solved.

Some people don't know how to find the money though. You wouldn't believe how many people in the world have never visited a money tree farm, let alone planted one themselves.

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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2013, 11:01:13 PM »
It is very easy.  Inject money into it.  Now that I have given you the answer, you simple need to go find the money.  Problem solved.

Some people don't know how to find the money though. You wouldn't believe how many people in the world have never visited a money tree farm, let alone planted one themselves.
I find knocking over banks to be a quick, easy solution and you don't even need to plant the seeds for money trees.  Those seeds can be so temperamental, especially in the Texas climate.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2013, 11:53:51 PM »
Maybe your answer to this question, WPM, might help give us some insight on what you're trying to accomplish with this thread: What was your purpose for starting this thread on the Orthodox-Protestant Discussion board?
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2013, 11:37:47 AM »
Maybe your answer to this question, WPM, might help give us some insight on what you're trying to accomplish with this thread: What was your purpose for starting this thread on the Orthodox-Protestant Discussion board?

You're asking for the explanation of an explanation or for the reason of a reason.

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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2013, 12:10:21 PM »
The actual mechanics of economy-building seems like a lot of work.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2013, 12:12:13 PM »
Did you want to open a business? I think you can get loans to do that. Or, you can look into a local civic society and see if they know how to do that. Try the Chamber of Commerce, maybe.

Thanks  :)
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2013, 10:52:50 AM »
Build a business (product or service) and hire local people.  Spend your profits as locally as possible.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2013, 12:01:22 PM »
Build a business (product or service) and hire local people.  Spend your profits as locally as possible.

This takes money.  We're back to money.  Now, do you want to use your own money or other people's money?  If the latter, TheTri had a very good suggestion.  If the former, well, uh, hmmm......get a job and save it up.  Or something.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2013, 12:12:54 PM »
Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Find something to provide or make that people want to have and will pay to have it. Then do provide or make it.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2013, 12:33:18 PM »
Build a business (product or service) and hire local people.  Spend your profits as locally as possible.

This takes money.  We're back to money.  Now, do you want to use your own money or other people's money?  If the latter, TheTri had a very good suggestion.  If the former, well, uh, hmmm......get a job and save it up.  Or something.
Or something  J Michael will disagree with me, but a kimchi making business in your neck of the woods could be wildly popular.  You may have to encourage many Koreans to come to your town for this to work.  But then they will run you out of business.  Oh well, never mind.  I guess go to the local gas station and buy a candy bar can help that guy's business, thus aiding the local economy.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2013, 12:35:54 PM »
Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Do you want to plant a colony or something?
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2013, 12:39:32 PM »
Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Do you want to plant a colony or something?

Or something  Open a Dutch brewery.  You know, brewing Dutch people, er...I mean beer.

Planting a colony takes rich (read, expensive) soil.  Besides, it would make him an evil colonialist.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2013, 12:45:31 PM »
Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Do you want to plant a colony or something?

Or something  Open a Dutch brewery.  You know, brewing Dutch people, er...I mean beer.

Planting a colony takes rich (read, expensive) soil.  Besides, it would make him an evil colonialist.

Yeah, look at what happened to New Amsterdam.  Sheesh.  A brewery is a much better idea.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2013, 01:11:25 PM »
Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Do you want to plant a colony or something?

Or something  Open a Dutch brewery.  You know, brewing Dutch people, er...I mean beer.

Planting a colony takes rich (read, expensive) soil.  Besides, it would make him an evil colonialist.

Yeah, look at what happened to New Amsterdam.  Sheesh.  A brewery is a much better idea.

We should never have traded New Amsterdam for Suriname.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2013, 01:18:22 PM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2013, 01:25:29 PM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2013, 01:28:35 PM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2013, 01:33:53 PM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2013, 01:41:18 PM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2013, 01:44:36 PM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2013, 05:52:46 PM »
Sincerely, hello

Do any of you here at OC.net have any knowledge on how to build a local economy?...

Do you want to plant a colony or something?

Or something  Open a Dutch brewery.  You know, brewing Dutch people, er...I mean beer.

Planting a colony takes rich (read, expensive) soil.  Besides, it would make him an evil colonialist.

Not much harm done if it's a colony of ants. Or a wormery.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2013, 06:17:29 PM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2013, 06:18:39 PM »
I read in a book somewhere that when the contradictions in the productive forces and the relations of production come to a head, a precipitous crisis will ensue, compelling the proletariat to revolt and install their dictatorship, which will gradually wither away after the reactionary elements are defeated and we have made the transition to a classless, moneyless economy based on the principle, "from each according to ability, to each according to need."

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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2013, 06:23:40 PM »
Maybe your answer to this question, WPM, might help give us some insight on what you're trying to accomplish with this thread: What was your purpose for starting this thread on the Orthodox-Protestant Discussion board?

You're asking for the explanation of an explanation or for the reason of a reason.
No, I'm asking that you give a straight answer to a question for once.
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2013, 08:19:56 AM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.
I thought they used katana blades? ??? ;D
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2013, 09:15:34 AM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.

Yeah...never heard of it.  Sounds excellent though!  These single seed thingees....are they communist, capitalist, or fascist?  On the face of it, though, they sound kinda anarchistic.  Hopefully not related to Occupy Earwax!  (Do seeds grow in earwax??)
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2013, 09:18:36 AM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.
I thought they used katana blades? ??? ;D

Aren't those for shaving?
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2013, 09:24:41 AM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.
I thought they used katana blades? ??? ;D

That sounds almost as bad as some of the European and Middle Eastern toilet "paper" I've had the displeasure of making acquaintance with.  Brutal!
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2013, 09:25:08 AM »
An economy is an organic system.  At its most basic, you need to supply a product that there is a demand for.  Maybe even several.

Yes, organic is certainly preferable.  Don't want to support the Demon Monsanto.

Everybody needs toilet paper.  Or, a reasonable facsimile thereof.  Organic is preferable.

Corncobs suffice.  Even Monsanto corncobs will do the trick.  Pshhh, toilet paper.  What are you?  Some type of uppity modern man?  {Insert sneering smiley face}

Oh, gosh! Don't let Maria hear you say such a thing!

Oooof, I might get cancer.  Organic corn cobs it is.

And, even those must be produced.  Everyone is in need of something to wi....nvm
I see you are unfamiliar with The Single-Seed Revolution.

Sow seed as you will, but do not work the land. What abundance comes forth shall suffice for all wiping needs, maybe even double what the Monsanto toilet cobs can provide.

Or maybe that only works in Japan. I dunno.
I thought they used katana blades? ??? ;D

Aren't those for shaving?

Well....uh..........could be!
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Re: Looking for Experience & Advice on how to build a local Economy
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2013, 09:27:15 AM »
I would never shave my beard off with a corn cob. 
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