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« on: August 16, 2013, 11:10:13 PM »

Does this apply to other Orthodox Christians or to everyone? Can I have an enemy who is a Baptist, for example?
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2013, 11:33:25 PM »

You already answered your question. 
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 11:36:33 PM »

We are to love our enemy, and that means being reconciled with them, and not wishing them evil.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2013, 11:38:58 PM »

We are to love our enemy, and that means being reconciled with them, and not wishing them evil.

But we can still be enemies with them, right? And one-up them and such?
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 11:49:10 PM »

We are to love our enemy, and that means being reconciled with them, and not wishing them evil.

But we can still be enemies with them, right? And one-up them and such?

We try, for our part, to not have enmity toward others. If they have enmity toward us, we pray for them and love them.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2013, 12:17:08 AM »

We are to love our enemy, and that means being reconciled with them, and not wishing them evil.

But we can still be enemies with them, right? And one-up them and such?

We try, for our part, to not have enmity toward others. If they have enmity toward us, we pray for them and love them.

But if someone punches you in the gut and insults your wife's honor, if they come by the next day and ask to borrow your lawnmower you don't have to allow them, right?
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2013, 10:35:56 AM »

We are to love our enemy, and that means being reconciled with them, and not wishing them evil.

But we can still be enemies with them, right? And one-up them and such?

We try, for our part, to not have enmity toward others. If they have enmity toward us, we pray for them and love them.

But if someone punches you in the gut and insults your wife's honor, if they come by the next day and ask to borrow your lawnmower you don't have to allow them, right?

Well, if they got out of jail for assaulting your wife and committing battery on you, then lending him a lawnmower is at your discretion.  But you don't have to hate him.
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2013, 07:00:50 PM »

Heh, a baptist should not be your enemy.... Good grief, there are people who want to kill Christians.
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2013, 07:18:53 PM »

We are to love our enemy, and that means being reconciled with them, and not wishing them evil.

But we can still be enemies with them, right? And one-up them and such?

We try, for our part, to not have enmity toward others. If they have enmity toward us, we pray for them and love them.

But if someone punches you in the gut and insults your wife's honor, if they come by the next day and ask to borrow your lawnmower you don't have to allow them, right?

That's when you say: "Brother, God is laying it on my heart to pray an akathist together before you borrow it"  Smiley  Well, or something like that... you heard "kill em with kindness," so I guess this is more like "kill em with piety"  Cool
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2013, 08:09:58 PM »

What about people you can't reconcile with? Like within the limitations of time and space can't reconcile with? There are people who I am no longer in contact with etc. who I cannot reconcile with. Should I talk to a Priest about that? Not as if I am going to commune soon or anything, I am not even a member of the Church.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2013, 09:36:26 PM »

Heh, a baptist should not be your enemy.... Good grief, there are people who want to kill Christians.

Where did Baptists come from in this thread?

Some Baptists I reckon, would not count Copts as Christians.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2013, 09:38:59 PM »

What about people you can't reconcile with? Like within the limitations of time and space can't reconcile with? There are people who I am no longer in contact with etc. who I cannot reconcile with. Should I talk to a Priest about that? Not as if I am going to commune soon or anything, I am not even a member of the Church.

You can reconcile from your end by loving them, praying for them, not wishing the evil. That is, I think, what reconciliation mostly is. If the other person comes to feel the same way, it's a bonus.
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