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« on: July 30, 2013, 11:58:23 PM »

Muslims promote Sharia law. Why do Christians not promote their law?

Some Muslim communities run with Sharia law. Other nations with a high Muslim population promote Sharia. It would seem from this phenomenon that Muslim law can be used to run a society as it does so in a few countries.

I know of no country that uses Christian or biblical law and have not heard of any Christian effort to have their law accepted in their nation.

This indicates that either Muslims are more religious than Christians, or Christians know that their laws would never be accepted as the law of the land.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of nations have rejected both sets of religious laws for a more secular approach to law and governance.

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Which of these three sets of laws do you think are superior and why?

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 12:02:16 AM »

Smurfs promote smurf law.  Why do smurfs not smurf their smurf....

Since you won't ensmurf in smurfful dialogsmurf, no smurf to continusmurf with this discussionsmurf.   Sad
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2013, 12:03:41 AM »

So, if, for instance, the Christians who constitute a majority (or at least a plurality) in a nation vote to be ruled and have those who are not Christians be ruled by the 10 Commandments and Church Canon Law, that indicates that the Christians in said nation are not religious?  What the hell kind of standard is that?  

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2013, 12:35:54 AM »

When I was young, one of my favourite Looney Toons characters was Speedy Gonzales.  Unfortunately, you can't find Speedy's cartoons on television because of their alleged ethnic stereotypes.  Is that really an issue?  Maybe I was too young to notice, but I didn't think they were particularly bad.  Certainly the comedy of people like George Lopez, Cheech and Chong, etc. promotes more ethnic stereotyping than the cartoon, and yet they're not banned.  Can we get Speedy at least on some "big people" channels? 

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2013, 12:48:27 AM »

^It was educational as well. At least half the Spanish I learnt was from that show.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2013, 12:52:17 AM »

^It was educational as well. At least half the Spanish I learnt was from that show.

I learned more Spanish from watching Sesame Street and by working with a Spanish guy for 6 months at a car dealership.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2013, 02:12:28 AM »

Greatest, which Christian Law are you referring to?  Loving God and loving our neighbor?  The New Testament offers no basis for a "Christian" system of law as it is normally understood.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2013, 02:58:52 AM »

We don't have one.  We live not under the law, but grace.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2013, 03:04:32 AM »

The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church vigorously promotes its law. There are 5 laws according to our Church Teaching:

1. Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2013, 03:33:47 AM »

We must destroy all current laws and replace them with the Corpus Juris Civilis!

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2013, 03:34:46 AM »

This indicates that either Muslims are more religious than Christians

also,

yes this is true sorry folks!

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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2013, 04:29:35 AM »

Smurfs promote smurf law.  Why do smurfs not smurf their smurf....

Since you won't ensmurf in smurfful dialogsmurf, no smurf to continusmurf with this discussionsmurf.   Sad

Indeed. He's just pulling us by our chains. No reason to follow.

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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2013, 05:00:18 AM »

We must destroy all current laws and replace them with the Corpus Juris Civilis!

Perhaps that wouldn't be a bad idea.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2013, 05:33:24 AM »

We don't have one.  We live not under the law, but grace.

Case closed.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2013, 05:37:45 AM »

Somewhere St. Justinian is sad at the lack of recognition he is getting by many in this thread.
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2013, 09:23:30 AM »

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1. Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.
3. Love your enemies and bless those that persecute you.
4. Love one another as Christ loves the Church.
5. Whatsoever you would have others do unto you, do also unto them.

Here is my proposed law.

"We the people of this country hereby mandate the following laws:

1. Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.
3. Love your enemies and bless those that persecute you.
4. Love one another as Christ loves the Church.
5. Whatsoever you would have others do unto you, do also unto them.

Failure to violate any of these laws will result in the amputation of one limb for the first infraction, and penalty of death for the second infraction."

This will help us love God more.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2013, 12:13:56 PM »

Somewhere St. Justinian is sad at the lack of recognition he is getting by many in this thread.

Don't smurfin' get me started...
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1. Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.
3. Love your enemies and bless those that persecute you.
4. Love one another as Christ loves the Church.
5. Whatsoever you would have others do unto you, do also unto them.

Here is my proposed law.

"We the people of this country hereby mandate the following laws:

1. Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.
3. Love your enemies and bless those that persecute you.
4. Love one another as Christ loves the Church.
5. Whatsoever you would have others do unto you, do also unto them.

Failure to violate any of these laws will result in the amputation of one limb for the first infraction, and penalty of death for the second infraction."

This will help us love God more.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2013, 12:20:53 PM »

You must excuse him.  He almost died yesterday.  Wink
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2013, 12:23:19 PM »


Separation of Church and State.
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Somewhere St. Justinian is sad at the lack of recognition he is getting by many in this thread.

Don't smurfin' get me started...

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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2013, 01:18:00 PM »

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1. Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.
3. Love your enemies and bless those that persecute you.
4. Love one another as Christ loves the Church.
5. Whatsoever you would have others do unto you, do also unto them.

Here is my proposed law.

"We the people of this country hereby mandate the following laws:

1. Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.
3. Love your enemies and bless those that persecute you.
4. Love one another as Christ loves the Church.
5. Whatsoever you would have others do unto you, do also unto them.

Failure to violate any of these laws will result in the amputation of one limb for the first infraction, and penalty of death for the second infraction."

This will help us love God more.  Roll Eyes



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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2013, 02:29:10 PM »

Somewhere St. Justinian is sad at the lack of recognition he is getting by many in this thread.

Don't smurfin' get me started...

What? You don't venerate his all-smurfy, most-smurfish and thrice-smurfed saint among smurfs, smurf Justinian the smurfish?
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2013, 02:32:35 PM »

I take it you've never seen the religious-right?
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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2013, 02:52:48 PM »

Somewhere St. Justinian is sad at the lack of recognition he is getting by many in this thread.

Don't smurfin' get me started...

What? You don't venerate his all-smurfy, most-smurfish and thrice-smurfed saint among smurfs, smurf Justinian the smurfish?

Isn't he a hierosmurf?
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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2013, 03:01:21 PM »

Somewhere St. Justinian is sad at the lack of recognition he is getting by many in this thread.

Don't smurfin' get me started...

What? You don't venerate his all-smurfy, most-smurfish and thrice-smurfed saint among smurfs, smurf Justinian the smurfish?

Smurf Justinian was anasmurfed by the OO.
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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2013, 03:05:43 PM »

Somewhere St. Justinian is sad at the lack of recognition he is getting by many in this thread.

Don't smurfin' get me started...

What? You don't venerate his all-smurfy, most-smurfish and thrice-smurfed saint among smurfs, smurf Justinian the smurfish?

Smurf Justinian was anasmurfed by the OO.

His smurfess Theodora on the other smurf, is venesmurfed by Oriental and Eastern Orthosmurfs alike.
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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2013, 03:12:25 PM »

Somewhere St. Justinian is sad at the lack of recognition he is getting by many in this thread.

Don't smurfin' get me started...

What? You don't venerate his all-smurfy, most-smurfish and thrice-smurfed saint among smurfs, smurf Justinian the smurfish?

Isn't he a hierosmurf?

His position is a smurfy peculiarity--for he is called "equal to papa smurf," which in less enlightened times would be rendered "equal to the most awesome." I do not think this is officially the position of all, however, and may only be a local smurf glorificational title.
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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2013, 03:20:09 PM »

Somewhere St. Justinian is sad at the lack of recognition he is getting by many in this thread.

Don't smurfin' get me started...

What? You don't venerate his all-smurfy, most-smurfish and thrice-smurfed saint among smurfs, smurf Justinian the smurfish?

Isn't he a hierosmurf?

His position is a smurfy peculiarity--for he is called "equal to papa smurf," which in less enlightened times would be rendered "equal to the most awesome." I do not think this is officially the position of all, however, and may only be a local smurf glorificational title.

I suggest that a smurfnod be consmurfed to determine his commemorsmurfiness by laysmurfs and clergysmurfs alike.  As for his title, should we now just call him Iso-Papasmurfos?
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2013, 03:22:19 PM »

I take it you've never seen the religious-right?

Really?

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« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2013, 03:24:09 PM »

Christians "promoting our law" are called radical anabaptists.

Anyone rembember the kingdom of "New Jerusalem"? The city is named Münster today.

A Christian theocratic police state, hilarious and frightening at the same time.
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« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2013, 03:28:50 PM »

Muslims promote Sharia law. Why do Christians not promote their law?

Some Muslim communities run with Sharia law. Other nations with a high Muslim population promote Sharia. It would seem from this phenomenon that Muslim law can be used to run a society as it does so in a few countries.

I know of no country that uses Christian or biblical law and have not heard of any Christian effort to have their law accepted in their nation.

This indicates that either Muslims are more religious than Christians, or Christians know that their laws would never be accepted as the law of the land.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of nations have rejected both sets of religious laws for a more secular approach to law and governance.

Briefly ---

Which of these three sets of laws do you think are superior and why?

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Our laws are informed by Christian values and Tradition.. For example, we don't cut off a person's hand for stealing. The foundational concepts are from the 10 commandments.. We also have a concept of mercy..Catch up.
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« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2013, 03:34:22 PM »

My last name is used in France for the Smurfs..So whenever I meet somone from France they laugh at me. They say "You know in my country your name is like Fred Flinstone to us"

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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2013, 10:11:04 PM »

We must destroy all current laws and replace them with the Corpus Juris Civilis!

Perhaps that wouldn't be a bad idea.

it is not a perhaps, it is for sure the right thing to do!

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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2013, 10:49:49 PM »

Smurf Justinian was anasmurfed by the OO.

Actually, he did a bangup job anathemasmurfing himself in our eyes.  We didn't have to do a smurfdamn thing extra. 
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« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2013, 11:00:09 PM »

Smurf Justinian was anasmurfed by the OO.

Actually, he did a bangup job anathemasmurfing himself in our eyes.  We didn't have to do a smurfdamn thing extra.  

Clearly you have never read the exhaustive and brilliant study of him: Justinian the Great: The Emperor and Saint. In this work Asterios Gerostergios proves conclusively that Justinian was the smurf-piousist, smurf-holiest, and smurf-saintliest guy around. The decision to glorify this honorable lover of smurfs has been vindicated! Let us smurf!
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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2013, 11:03:34 PM »

Oh smurf off. 
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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2013, 11:06:43 PM »

Smurf Justinian was anasmurfed by the OO.

Actually, he did a bangup job anathemasmurfing himself in our eyes.  We didn't have to do a smurfdamn thing extra. 

Those 1500 year old grudgesmurfs just get smurfold with timesmurf.
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« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2013, 11:26:46 PM »

Oh smurf off. 

My smurf!
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Separation of Church and State.
I actually agree with this and not just "church" but Synagogue and Mosque as well.

This may be taken the wrong way but I believe "christians" are the biggest obstruction many times  to mete out real justice in much of Western cultures these days.

Many religious people have a warped sense of reality.
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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2013, 03:33:37 PM »

Oh, not Least he is again!
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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2013, 05:56:58 PM »

Because we don't care enough, maybe in the future when things like Abortion and such take their great evil to the extreme you will have people caring but not today.
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« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2013, 03:23:40 PM »

So, if, for instance, the Christians who constitute a majority (or at least a plurality) in a nation vote to be ruled and have those who are not Christians be ruled by the 10 Commandments and Church Canon Law, that indicates that the Christians in said nation are not religious?  What the hell kind of standard is that?  


Who said that?

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« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2013, 03:23:40 PM »

Greatest, which Christian Law are you referring to?  Loving God and loving our neighbor?  The New Testament offers no basis for a "Christian" system of law as it is normally understood.

Mostly laws like stoning fornicators and unruly children.

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« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2013, 03:23:40 PM »

We don't have one.  We live not under the law, but grace.

Is that why so many U. S citizens are in jail as compared to other nations?

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« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2013, 03:23:40 PM »

The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church vigorously promotes its law. There are 5 laws according to our Church Teaching:

1. Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.
3. Love your enemies and bless those that persecute you.
4. Love one another as Christ loves the Church.
5. Whatsoever you would have others do unto you, do also unto them.


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1. Love an imaginary absentee God who promises to send the vast majority to hell.
2. Love everyone and love no one in a special way. Not even family. Love murderers.
3. Love the one raping your daughter. Tell your daughter to also love him. (disgusting)
4. Jesus could not love any of the so called Christian sects today. If he loved the church then he would not have abandoned it.
5. Correct any of my poor thinking. Theists will not take correction as they are idol worshippers.

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« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2013, 03:23:40 PM »

This indicates that either Muslims are more religious than Christians

also,

yes this is true sorry folks!



Seems like.

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« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2013, 03:23:40 PM »


Separation of Church and State.

Myth.

Bush, Iraq war for God, no stem cell research.

Need I say more.

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« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2013, 03:23:40 PM »

I take it you've never seen the religious-right?

They have watered down their laws.

I have yet to see them try to push laws to stone fornicators or unruly children.

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« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2013, 03:23:41 PM »

Muslims promote Sharia law. Why do Christians not promote their law?

Some Muslim communities run with Sharia law. Other nations with a high Muslim population promote Sharia. It would seem from this phenomenon that Muslim law can be used to run a society as it does so in a few countries.

I know of no country that uses Christian or biblical law and have not heard of any Christian effort to have their law accepted in their nation.

This indicates that either Muslims are more religious than Christians, or Christians know that their laws would never be accepted as the law of the land.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of nations have rejected both sets of religious laws for a more secular approach to law and governance.

Briefly ---

Which of these three sets of laws do you think are superior and why?

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Our laws are informed by Christian values and Tradition.. For example, we don't cut off a person's hand for stealing. The foundational concepts are from the 10 commandments.. We also have a concept of mercy..Catch up.

Ten commandments plagiarized from the Book of the Dead as well as other faiths.

Catch up.
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« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2013, 03:23:41 PM »


Separation of Church and State.
I actually agree with this and not just "church" but Synagogue and Mosque as well.

This may be taken the wrong way but I believe "christians" are the biggest obstruction many times  to mete out real justice in much of Western cultures these days.

Many religious people have a warped sense of reality.


And moral.

Perhaps it is because Christianity's corner stone is human sacrifice and the notion that adherents are to embrace and profit from the punishment of the innocent instead of the guilty.

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« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2013, 03:23:47 PM »

Because we don't care enough, maybe in the future when things like Abortion and such take their great evil to the extreme you will have people caring but not today.

I know of some anti-abortion Christians who demanded that their daughters abort.

I do know of one set of parents that did adopt their grandchild.

In the U S, most abortions are of potential hereditary Christians.

Do I hear a hypocrite?

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Hypocrite reader - my fellow - my brother!  St.Jerome

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« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2013, 10:21:12 PM »

They promote their law with guns, explosives and beheadings.  We don't.  Also, you should define what you understand as "promote".
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« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2013, 10:22:46 PM »


Separation of Church and State.

Myth.

Bush, Iraq war for God, no stem cell research.

Need I say more.

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You know, if I ever had any respectful consideration for your posts, this post here killed it - super dead.
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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2013, 08:13:35 AM »

Because we don't care enough, maybe in the future when things like Abortion and such take their great evil to the extreme you will have people caring but not today.

I know of some anti-abortion Christians who demanded that their daughters abort.

I do know of one set of parents that did adopt their grandchild.

In the U S, most abortions are of potential hereditary Christians.

Do I hear a hypocrite?

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