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« on: July 23, 2013, 01:21:10 AM »

Facts About Harry Potter and Witchcraft:

The Pagan Federation of England said that Potter's fame has given credibility to the religion of witchcraft, attracting thousands of enquirers.

Witchcraft is the fastest growing religion among teenagers.

Co-authors of Harry Potter and the Global Child explain the dangers of desensitizing children to the dangers of the occult and pagan philosophy taught in Harry Potter's Hogwarts school of Witchcraft.

Bill Schnoebelen, a former Mason, said children are being desensitized to the weirdness quotient. He calls it Witchcraft 101.

Almost 50 percent of teens polled have seen the first Harry Potter movie or read the books. Out of the teens polled, 53 percent are between the ages of 13 and 14. 12 percent of those exposed to Potter said they were interested in Witchcraft. Of those 12 percent, 4 percent said they were a lot more interested in Witchcraft. 8 percent were a little more interested as a result of one of the books or movie. Even though this accounts for a small amount of teenagers, it's still about 5 percent of all U.S. teens. More than a million students say that they were more interested in witchcraft as a result of Harry Potter.

(Source: video "The Gods Of Entertainment" -- Caryl Matrisciana). If you see this video, use caution because some ungodly images are used.

"The old dread and fear of the serpent is being subtly removed from our culture" --Matriciana.

Recommended Book: "Witchcraft: Exploring the World of Wicca," by Craig Hawkins. This book refutes paganism from Scripture and logic.

St. Ephraim the Syrian:

"Regard not spells and divinations, for that is communion with Satan."( Homily on Admonition and Repentance).

St. Cyril of Jerusalem:

"Also give heed neither to observations of the stars nor auguries, nor omens, nor to the fabulous divinations of the Greeks. Witchcraft, and enchantment, and the wicked practices of necromancy, admit not even to a hearing."

"The watching of birds, divination, omens, or amulets, or charms written on leaves, sorceries, or other evil arts, and all such things, are services of the devil; therefore shun them." (Catechetical Lectures).
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 01:27:11 AM »

So what's the point of all your pontification, Incognito?
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 01:31:38 AM »

So what's the point of all your pontification, Incognito?

To inform people who might be deceived in believing Potter is harmless.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 01:32:40 AM »

St. Basil says take the good but leave the bad. Some guidance may be necessary.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 01:38:11 AM »

St. Basil says take the good but leave the bad. Some guidance may be necessary.

Don't take him out of context. The assumption in your statement is that there is good in Harry Potter. There is NO good in Harry Potter. Why even look at that garbage when we have the lives of the saints to read?
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2013, 01:49:47 AM »

The assumption in your statement is that there is good in Harry Potter. There is NO good in Harry Potter.

Hermione?  Huh
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2013, 02:10:49 AM »

I tend to agree with Incognito on this one. I wouldn't go so far as to say there is NO good in Harry Potter. There may be a redemptive lesson here and there (I don't know, because I have no interest in such pop literature.) But satan is quite willing to use a little good to suck people into a web of evil. The books do seem to glorify wizardry and witchcraft, and the scriptures and Teachings of the Church clearly condemn such things.

(And you can save the argument that I can't judge unless I read them myself. I don't have to experience cancer to know that it's a bad thing.)


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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2013, 02:19:43 AM »

Gebre- I am confused. You say in one sentence that you have no interest in pop lit. In the next you say they glorify wizardry and witchcraft. Have you actually read the books? Or is the statement that they glorify witchcraft based upon opinions you have read?
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2013, 02:21:45 AM »

Everyone knows that cancer is bad because they can see the end result. Making statements that the series glorifies witchcraft isn't the same. I don't see a rise in witchcraft attributable to the series, do you? You could more easily make a correlation between the series Glee and gay marriage (which would still be a stretch).
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 02:23:38 AM »

Gebre- I am confused. You say in one sentence that you have no interest in pop lit. In the next you say they glorify wizardry and witchcraft. Have you actually read the books? Or is the statement that they glorify witchcraft based upon opinions you have read?

Sshhh!! Don't confuse him with facts, Quinault!  laugh
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2013, 02:29:10 AM »

St. Basil says take the good but leave the bad. Some guidance may be necessary.

Don't take him out of context. The assumption in your statement is that there is good in Harry Potter. There is NO good in Harry Potter.

Harry Potter promotes friendship, loyalty, hard work and taking responsibility for one's actions. Plus, it made 12-year-olds read through 800-page books. That's good enough for me.

Why even look at that garbage when we have the lives of the saints to read?

I put down money you didn't grow up reading the lives of the saints either.
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2013, 02:31:06 AM »

I've read the series. If you decide that it promotes witchcraft and wizardry, you would have to say that The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, as well as the Lord of the Rings series does too.

As to Gandalf being gay? Yeah, I guess if you looked for it you could find that in the series. But you could see homosexuality in Band of Brothers if you wanted to as well.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2013, 02:33:06 AM »

So what's the point of all your pontification, Incognito?

To inform people who might be deceived in believing Potter is harmless.
Why should anyone find you a credible authority on such matters?
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2013, 02:34:53 AM »

The books do seem to glorify wizardry and witchcraft, ...
How can you know that if you've never read the books?
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2013, 02:35:37 AM »

Everyone knows that cancer is bad because they can see the end result. Making statements that the series glorifies witchcraft isn't the same. I don't see a rise in witchcraft attributable to the series, do you? You could more easily make a correlation between the series Glee and gay marriage (which would still be a stretch).

Ummm... yeah, I have seen a rise in witchcraft and I have seen the negative influence Harry Potter has had upon young people. I haven't seen anyone being drawn to Orthodoxy through Harry Potter novels, but I have seen young people apostatize from the Faith due to their influence.


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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2013, 02:36:39 AM »

So what's the point of all your pontification, Incognito?

To inform people who might be deceived in believing Potter is harmless.
Why should anyone find you a credible authority on such matters?

Why should anyone find you credible buddy? And yet you presume to moderate the rest of us. Roll Eyes


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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2013, 02:36:56 AM »

In all truth, Star Trek is more damaging than Harry Potter. It is a great "witness" to secular humanism.
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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2013, 02:38:10 AM »

Everyone knows that cancer is bad because they can see the end result. Making statements that the series glorifies witchcraft isn't the same. I don't see a rise in witchcraft attributable to the series, do you? You could more easily make a correlation between the series Glee and gay marriage (which would still be a stretch).

Ummm... yeah, I have seen a rise in witchcraft and I have seen the negative influence Harry Potter has had upon young people. I haven't seen anyone being drawn to Orthodoxy through Harry Potter novels, but I have seen young people apostatize from the Faith due to there influence.


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Please back this up with actual proof. If anyone is getting into witchcraft from the Harry Potter series, they would be very disappointed in actual witchcraft.
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« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2013, 02:38:46 AM »

Everyone knows that cancer is bad because they can see the end result. Making statements that the series glorifies witchcraft isn't the same. I don't see a rise in witchcraft attributable to the series, do you? You could more easily make a correlation between the series Glee and gay marriage (which would still be a stretch).

Ummm... yeah, I have seen a rise in witchcraft and I have seen the negative influence Harry Potter has had upon young people. I haven't seen anyone being drawn to Orthodoxy through Harry Potter novels, but I have seen young people apostatize from the Faith due to there influence.
But if you've never read the books, how can you blame the apostasy of these teenagers on the influence of the books?
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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2013, 02:39:08 AM »

In all truth, Star Trek is more damaging than Harry Potter. It is a great "witness" to secular humanism.

I agree.


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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2013, 02:39:16 AM »

So what's the point of all your pontification, Incognito?

To inform people who might be deceived in believing Potter is harmless.
Why should anyone find you a credible authority on such matters?

Why should anyone find you credible buddy?
The question was not asked of you, so mind your own business, Gebre.

And yet you presume to moderate the rest of us. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2013, 02:40:30 AM »

St. Basil says take the good but leave the bad. Some guidance may be necessary.

Don't take him out of context. The assumption in your statement is that there is good in Harry Potter. There is NO good in Harry Potter. Why even look at that garbage when we have the lives of the saints to read?

It was not my intention to take him out of context... though I suppose people rarely intend to do such a thing. I have never read the Harry Potter books, so I don't know what content they have. I have experienced other fantasy and sci-fi, some based in worlds quite unorthodox, and did not lose faith because of it. It was this that I was thinking of when I mentioned St. Basil.
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2013, 02:40:43 AM »

Everyone knows that cancer is bad because they can see the end result. Making statements that the series glorifies witchcraft isn't the same. I don't see a rise in witchcraft attributable to the series, do you? You could more easily make a correlation between the series Glee and gay marriage (which would still be a stretch).

Ummm... yeah, I have seen a rise in witchcraft and I have seen the negative influence Harry Potter has had upon young people. I haven't seen anyone being drawn to Orthodoxy through Harry Potter novels, but I have seen young people apostatize from the Faith due to their influence.


Selam

Please back this up with actual proof. If anyone is getting into witchcraft from the Harry Potter series, they would be very disappointed in actual witchcraft.

I won't divulge names. But I can promise you that it does happen. Enjoy your Harry Potter. I really don't care. But I will never ridicule or mock anyone who attempts to warn others of the dangers of witchcraft, sorcery, pornography, abortion, war, addiction, heresy, etc. I have great respect for those who love their neighbors enough to speak out against such things. And I have noticed that such voices are usually met with sarcasm and ridicule. I shall try not to be one of the mockers.


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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2013, 02:46:47 AM »

You *personally* know people that read Harry Potter as a gateway to witchcraft?
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2013, 02:48:26 AM »

Everyone knows that cancer is bad because they can see the end result. Making statements that the series glorifies witchcraft isn't the same. I don't see a rise in witchcraft attributable to the series, do you? You could more easily make a correlation between the series Glee and gay marriage (which would still be a stretch).

Ummm... yeah, I have seen a rise in witchcraft and I have seen the negative influence Harry Potter has had upon young people. I haven't seen anyone being drawn to Orthodoxy through Harry Potter novels, but I have seen young people apostatize from the Faith due to their influence.


Selam

Please back this up with actual proof. If anyone is getting into witchcraft from the Harry Potter series, they would be very disappointed in actual witchcraft.

I won't divulge names.
Then please rescind your claims as unprovable.

But I can promise you that it does happen.
Then prove it.

Enjoy your Harry Potter. I really don't care. But I will never ridicule or mock anyone who attempts to warn others of the dangers of witchcraft, sorcery, pornography, abortion, war, addiction, heresy, etc. I have great respect for those who love their neighbors enough to speak out against such things. And I have noticed that such voices are usually met with sarcasm and ridicule. I shall try not to be one of the mockers.
Gebre, no one is denying the dangers of real witchcraft or sorcery. What is being asserted is that there's no way you can really know that Harry Potter promotes witchcraft or sorcery if you've never read the books.
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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2013, 02:48:37 AM »

So what's the point of all your pontification, Incognito?

To inform people who might be deceived in believing Potter is harmless.
Why should anyone find you a credible authority on such matters?

Why should anyone find you credible buddy?
The question was not asked of you, so mind your own business, Gebre.

And yet you presume to moderate the rest of us. Roll Eyes
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So you can question the credibility of others but I can't question yours? How convenient.

I obviously can't respond to your words in green, since that would be considered challenging your moderation. How convenient again.


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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2013, 02:52:03 AM »

Magic in the series (that I can recall, it has been about 6 years since I read the series)

Speeding up and slowing down time
Freezing someone stiff like a board
Killing someone
Rendering someone boneless, then getting the bones to harden again
Making yourself look like someone else for a brief period of time
Turning a wand into a flashlight
Floating things in the air


These are not things you can do with actual witchcraft. Actual witchcraft is quite boring and involves hoping for things rather than trying to make things happen. I did delve a bit into actual witchcraft as a teen. I suspect you, like many others, are thinking of satanism rather than witchcraft. And even satanism is quite boring.
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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2013, 02:54:56 AM »

So what's the point of all your pontification, Incognito?

To inform people who might be deceived in believing Potter is harmless.
Why should anyone find you a credible authority on such matters?

Why should anyone find you credible buddy?
The question was not asked of you, so mind your own business, Gebre.

And yet you presume to moderate the rest of us. Roll Eyes
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So you can question the credibility of others but I can't question yours? How convenient.
You can question my credibility all you want. In the context of this thread, however, your question of my credibility is not at all relevant to my question of Incognito's credibility. He is making claims. I am not. You, however, are defending Incognito against questions legitimately asked of him. The question I asked him I did not ask you, so it's none of your business.

I obviously can't respond to your words in green, since that would be considered challenging your moderation. How convenient again.
You just did respond. Please stop. Not one word of comment again on my text in green.
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2013, 02:57:33 AM »

Magic in the series (that I can recall, it has been about 6 years since I read the series)

Speeding up and slowing down time
Freezing someone stiff like a board
Killing someone
Rendering someone boneless, then getting the bones to harden again
Making yourself look like someone else for a brief period of time
Turning a wand into a flashlight
Floating things in the air


These are not things you can do with actual witchcraft. Actual witchcraft is quite boring and involves hoping for things rather than trying to make things happen. I did delve a bit into actual witchcraft as a teen. I suspect you, like many others, are thinking of satanism rather than witchcraft. And even satanism is quite boring.

I appreciate the substantive response. Seriously.

The problem is that young people don't discern such distinctions. They are drawn to Harry Potter and thereby to the realm of sorcery and Godless mysticism. The seeds are sown, and they are more susceptible to the influences of Wicca, etc. later on down the line.

The question I would ask the Orthodox Harry Potter apologists is this: do you think that the influence of Harry Potter leaves people more open to Christian truth or more open to demonic deceptions?


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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2013, 02:57:55 AM »

I have been thinking, how is Harry Potter any more damaging than those countless fairy tales, people have been told throughout the centuries, which, quite often, involve magic and sorcery. I'm not saying that people should or should not read those books, I just really can't see the big difference.

Personally, I am not really into the whole Harry Potter thing. I have watched 4 of the films and I once tried to read one of the books, but it never really made me interested.  
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« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2013, 02:58:57 AM »

Magic in the series (that I can recall, it has been about 6 years since I read the series)

Speeding up and slowing down time
Freezing someone stiff like a board
Killing someone
Rendering someone boneless, then getting the bones to harden again
Making yourself look like someone else for a brief period of time
Turning a wand into a flashlight
Floating things in the air


These are not things you can do with actual witchcraft. Actual witchcraft is quite boring and involves hoping for things rather than trying to make things happen. I did delve a bit into actual witchcraft as a teen. I suspect you, like many others, are thinking of satanism rather than witchcraft. And even satanism is quite boring.

Literary magic is always much more interesting than real magic (which is like the law of attraction with bells on).
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« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2013, 03:01:49 AM »

There are books about Orthodoxy and HP

http://orthodoxwiki.org/John_Granger
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« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2013, 03:02:53 AM »

Magic in the series (that I can recall, it has been about 6 years since I read the series)

Speeding up and slowing down time
Freezing someone stiff like a board
Killing someone
Rendering someone boneless, then getting the bones to harden again
Making yourself look like someone else for a brief period of time
Turning a wand into a flashlight
Floating things in the air


These are not things you can do with actual witchcraft. Actual witchcraft is quite boring and involves hoping for things rather than trying to make things happen. I did delve a bit into actual witchcraft as a teen. I suspect you, like many others, are thinking of satanism rather than witchcraft. And even satanism is quite boring.

I appreciate the substantive response. Seriously.

The problem is that young people don't discern such distinctions. They are drawn to Harry Potter and thereby to the realm of sorcery and Godless mysticism. The seeds are sown, and they are more susceptible to the influences of Wicca, etc. later on down the line.

The question I would ask the Orthodox Harry Potter apologists is this: do you think that the influence of Harry Potter leaves people more open to Christian truth or more open to demonic deceptions?


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I think the influence of Harry Potter leads to people wearing ridiculous scarves.

Isn't that bad enough without bringing ridiculous accusations of withcraft?
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« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2013, 03:03:57 AM »

Magic in the series (that I can recall, it has been about 6 years since I read the series)

Speeding up and slowing down time
Freezing someone stiff like a board
Killing someone
Rendering someone boneless, then getting the bones to harden again
Making yourself look like someone else for a brief period of time
Turning a wand into a flashlight
Floating things in the air


These are not things you can do with actual witchcraft. Actual witchcraft is quite boring and involves hoping for things rather than trying to make things happen. I did delve a bit into actual witchcraft as a teen. I suspect you, like many others, are thinking of satanism rather than witchcraft. And even satanism is quite boring.

I appreciate the substantive response. Seriously.

The problem is that young people don't discern such distinctions. They are drawn to Harry Potter and thereby to the realm of sorcery and Godless mysticism. The seeds are sown, and they are more susceptible to the influences of Wicca, etc. later on down the line.

The question I would ask the Orthodox Harry Potter apologists is this: do you think that the influence of Harry Potter leaves people more open to Christian truth or more open to demonic deceptions?
What does it matter what we think? Especially those of us who haven't read the books enough to know what they really say?
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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2013, 03:13:43 AM »

The question is too broad. Does the HP franchise leave people more open to Christian truth? Well that depends upon what you are comparing it to. Is it more reflective of Christianity than the liturgy, or scripture? No. Is it more reflective of Christianity than most modern popular culture? Yes.

The enemy of Christianity is overreactive responses to really fairly mundane things. I would bet that more young people have been driven away from Christianity by the self professed followers of Christ than the HP books. But we wouldn't say that no one should claim to be Christians because some Christians drive people away from Christianity.
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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2013, 03:21:43 AM »

The question is too broad. Does the HP franchise leave people more open to Christian truth? Well that depends upon what you are comparing it to. Is it more reflective of Christianity than the liturgy, or scripture? No. Is it more reflective of Christianity than most modern popular culture? Yes.

The enemy of Christianity is overreactive responses to really fairly mundane things. I would bet that more young people have been driven away from Christianity by the self professed followers of Christ than the HP books.

Mundane things are, after all, mundane. And we should caution ourselves and others about following the ways of the world. But I do agree that more people have probably been led away from Christianity by false prophets than by Harry Potter. But still, that's sort of like saying that heroin is more destructive than opium. One may be more addictive and deadly than the other, but that doesn't mean the other is innocuous.

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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2013, 03:23:44 AM »

The question is too broad. Does the HP franchise leave people more open to Christian truth? Well that depends upon what you are comparing it to. Is it more reflective of Christianity than the liturgy, or scripture? No. Is it more reflective of Christianity than most modern popular culture? Yes.

The enemy of Christianity is overreactive responses to really fairly mundane things. I would bet that more young people have been driven away from Christianity by the self professed followers of Christ than the HP books.

Mundane things are, after all, mundane. And we should caution ourselves and others about following the ways of the world. But I do agree that more people have probably been led away from Christianity by false prophets than by Harry Potter. But still, that's sort of like saying that heroin is more destructive than opium. One may be more addictive and deadly than the other, but that doesn't mean the other is innocuous.
Gebre, do us all a big favor. Go and read the Harry Potter books for yourself, then come back and tell us if they really advocate witchcraft and sorcery.
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« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2013, 03:25:03 AM »

I don't see a rise in witchcraft attributable to the series, do you?

Did you even read the statistics I gave? That you may not see something, does not mean it is not occurring in reality. The statistics and facts speak for themselves.
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« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2013, 03:25:16 AM »

Ah, but would we say that no one should claim to be a Christian because their witness may be damaging.

I personally would ban all Christians from having bumper stickers claiming their faith. No one drives perfectly all the time. A person on the fence regarding Christianity that is cut off in traffic by someone with a Christian bumper sticker might decide on the spot to be Scientologist Cheesy
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« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2013, 03:26:15 AM »

I don't see a rise in witchcraft attributable to the series, do you?

Did you even read the statistics I gave? That you may not see something, does not mean it is not occurring in reality. The statistics and facts speak for themselves.
Statistics and facts can be made to lie.
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« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2013, 03:26:36 AM »

The question is too broad. Does the HP franchise leave people more open to Christian truth? Well that depends upon what you are comparing it to. Is it more reflective of Christianity than the liturgy, or scripture? No. Is it more reflective of Christianity than most modern popular culture? Yes.

The enemy of Christianity is overreactive responses to really fairly mundane things. I would bet that more young people have been driven away from Christianity by the self professed followers of Christ than the HP books.

Mundane things are, after all, mundane. And we should caution ourselves and others about following the ways of the world. But I do agree that more people have probably been led away from Christianity by false prophets than by Harry Potter. But still, that's sort of like saying that heroin is more destructive than opium. One may be more addictive and deadly than the other, but that doesn't mean the other is innocuous.
Gebre, do us all a big favor. Go and read the Harry Potter books for yourself, then come back and tell us if they really advocate witchcraft and sorcery.

Go and read some pornography and then come back and tell us whether or not it actually incites lust. (Actually, no, please don't do that. I'm only making a point.)


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« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2013, 03:27:04 AM »

The question I asked of him was not asked of you, so it's none of your business.

To be fair, Peter, on this forum people very often respond to questions that are asked of other posters, and people very often defend the positions of other posters.  Telling Gebre it's none of his business just makes it seem like you are trying to curtail the discussion, or at the very least exclude Gebre from it.
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« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2013, 03:27:09 AM »

I don't see a rise in witchcraft attributable to the series, do you?

Did you even read the statistics I gave? That you may not see something, does not mean it is not occurring in reality. The statistics and facts speak for themselves.

Interest doesn't mean that they actually engage in witchcraft. The magic in the HP series is not the same as the "magic" in wicca or witchcraft. Anyone that is interested in witchcraft after seeing how vastly different it is compared to magic in HP was interested in it before they read the books. Or they are interested in spite of the books.
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« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2013, 03:28:20 AM »

The question is too broad. Does the HP franchise leave people more open to Christian truth? Well that depends upon what you are comparing it to. Is it more reflective of Christianity than the liturgy, or scripture? No. Is it more reflective of Christianity than most modern popular culture? Yes.

The enemy of Christianity is overreactive responses to really fairly mundane things. I would bet that more young people have been driven away from Christianity by the self professed followers of Christ than the HP books.

Mundane things are, after all, mundane. And we should caution ourselves and others about following the ways of the world. But I do agree that more people have probably been led away from Christianity by false prophets than by Harry Potter. But still, that's sort of like saying that heroin is more destructive than opium. One may be more addictive and deadly than the other, but that doesn't mean the other is innocuous.
Gebre, do us all a big favor. Go and read the Harry Potter books for yourself, then come back and tell us if they really advocate witchcraft and sorcery.

Go and read some pornography and then come back and tell us whether or not it actually incites lust. (Actually, no, please don't do that. I'm only making a point.)
Gebre, there's absolutely no way you can compare Harry Potter with pornography if you've never read the books! What does it take to get you to see this?
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« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2013, 03:28:46 AM »



Harry Potter promotes friendship, loyalty, hard work and taking responsibility for one's actions. Plus, it made 12-year-olds read through 800-page books. That's good enough for me.

Excuse me, the fact that children are joining witchcraft as a direct result of Harry Potter doesn't bother you? You have got to be kidding me. The fact it promotes witchcraft and magic doesn't bother you? The story also promotes lying.
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