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« on: July 23, 2013, 12:44:20 AM »

Everyone I know is always teasing me and telling me that I need to assert some more independence from my parents because they are too controlling and/or overprotective. Even adults tell me this. That being said, I guess I could see where they are coming from.

My parents text message me every half-an-hour whenever I go somewhere without them to make sure that I am okay, and get mad if I don't respond within 10 minutes (even at Liturgy), they won't let me accept rides from people or use public transportation without an adult (they'd rather chauffer me around until I get my license), my mom still picks out my clothing at the department store and makes me try it on for her, they don't let me drink or smoke, my mother is overprotective when it comes to me socializing with females, in which, my dad has to tell her to back off, etc. The list goes on.

I'm a robot. I just go along with whatever they tell me to do and I guess it's time I start acting like a man more and gaining independence. How do I do this without angering them?

EDIT: I'm 17
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 12:51:48 AM »

I have no idea how old you are, but a job and a place of your own comes to mind if that's not already in order. Economic dependency is very powerful.
I remember reading this Catholic young mans guide from the 60's (or something) telling how young men instinctively dislike their mothers (in part at least) as a way to gain independence. You need to do things on your own and learn.

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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 03:08:26 AM »

Tell your parents you want more independence. Don't be hostile about it, but be firm and confident. If they flip out and kick you out again (which they will) just leave forever, problem solved.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 05:15:14 AM »


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James, have you graduated high school yet?  If not, that may be a good place to start.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2013, 05:15:41 AM »

No need to assert just yet. Ask how you can earn/gain more independence. If you are a responsible person, a rational person would allow you more independence. Hint; that person is normally dad.


As to clothing; buy your own with your own money, then there is no need to bring mommy.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2013, 05:50:41 AM »

Everyone I know is always teasing me and telling me that I need to assert some more independence My parents text message me every half-an-hour whenever I go somewhere without them to make sure that I am okay, and get mad if I don't respond within 10 minutes (even at Liturgy), they won't let me accept rides from people or use public transportation without an adult (they'd rather chauffer me around until I get my license),

They may be over the top, but at least they care about you.  Thank God they do.  Many parents don’t give a rip about their kids.  Trust me on this one.  I have had to remove more than one child from a home for their safety.

my mom still picks out my clothing at the department store and makes me try it on for her

I do the same thing.  When my kids leave home, they can dress how they like.  Not a minute earlier.  Besides, they buy you clothes and keep you dressed.  Do they wash them for you?  Maybe you should tell them thanks on occasion.

they don't let me drink or smoke,

Good on them!  I wouldn’t either.

my mother is overprotective when it comes to me socializing with females, in which, my dad has to tell her to back off,

Sounds about normal to be.  I am glad you don’t have dead beat parents.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2013, 06:04:11 AM »

they don't let me drink or smoke

You have to be 21 to do those things in America, am I right?
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2013, 06:08:22 AM »

18 to smoke/vote, 21 to drink most places.
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 06:12:31 AM »

18 to smoke/vote, 21 to drink most places.

And out of your parents house.
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2013, 06:52:26 AM »

Well, I do know many parents (not good ones I might add) that allow their kids to smoke and drink. There is no law specifically saying you have to smoke and drink outside you parent's home. But if you do so underage it is the adults that are culpable in many areas. Hence why having a raging kegger when you are of age with a bunch of minors is the height of stupidity.

And really James? Drinking and smoking aren't all they are made out to be. It is far more amusing to be the sober one around all the drunks. I've been in both the sober/drunk positions. The sober position can be quite hilarious. In the age of smartphones/cameras/social media I imagine it is moreso.
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2013, 06:56:09 AM »

James, you have a great deal of anger toward your parents. You also seem to have a pretty enormous sense of entitlement (recalling the gun whine). You need to behave like you are an adult in order to be treated like one. You have the capacity to do so. I know you do. You seem like a bright young man. You just have to show your parents that you are someone that can be trusted. You have gone on and on about how your parents unwisely got pregnant out of wedlock as teens. I suspect they just want to keep you from making the mistakes they have (because there is a good chance fornication wasn't the only thing they did). The more they see their own weaknesses at your age in you, the less they will trust you.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2013, 07:02:36 AM »

I've been in both the sober/drunk positions. The sober position can be quite hilarious.

Same here.

When I arrive late at parties, which I usually tend to do, I get the chance to interrogate everyone. Now I'm known as the guy who knows everything about everyone. Very convenient since nobody dares to make a joke at my expense anymore  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2013, 07:03:53 AM »

James, you have a great deal of anger toward your parents. You also seem to have a pretty enormous sense of entitlement (recalling the gun whine). You need to behave like you are an adult in order to be treated like one. You have the capacity to do so. I know you do. You seem like a bright young man. You just have to show your parents that you are someone that can be trusted. You have gone on and on about how your parents unwisely got pregnant out of wedlock as teens. I suspect they just want to keep you from making the mistakes they have (because there is a good chance fornication wasn't the only thing they did). The more they see their own weaknesses at your age in you, the less they will trust you.

And perhaps they know you better than you think.  We only see the part you allow us to see.  They see the rest.  Maybe they know your struggles and only want to protect you until you have a better grasp on yourself.
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2013, 11:00:34 AM »

Proverbs 22:6 "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."

Remind them of Scripture, and ask them to trust God, and you that you will keep their path. Thank them for their example and love, and ask for some space. The very fact that you are looking for some independence should make them realize they have done an excellent job preparing you for life as a strong young man.
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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2013, 11:38:41 AM »

Everyone I know is always teasing me and telling me that I need to assert some more independence from my parents because they are too controlling and/or overprotective. Even adults tell me this. That being said, I guess I could see where they are coming from.

My parents text message me every half-an-hour whenever I go somewhere without them to make sure that I am okay, and get mad if I don't respond within 10 minutes (even at Liturgy), they won't let me accept rides from people or use public transportation without an adult (they'd rather chauffer me around until I get my license), my mom still picks out my clothing at the department store and makes me try it on for her, they don't let me drink or smoke, my mother is overprotective when it comes to me socializing with females, in which, my dad has to tell her to back off, etc. The list goes on.

I'm a robot. I just go along with whatever they tell me to do and I guess it's time I start acting like a man more and gaining independence. How do I do this without angering them?

EDIT: I'm 17
Smoking and drinking are illegal at your age.
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2013, 11:39:42 AM »

James, you have a great deal of anger toward your parents. You also seem to have a pretty enormous sense of entitlement (recalling the gun whine). You need to behave like you are an adult in order to be treated like one. You have the capacity to do so. I know you do. You seem like a bright young man. You just have to show your parents that you are someone that can be trusted. You have gone on and on about how your parents unwisely got pregnant out of wedlock as teens. I suspect they just want to keep you from making the mistakes they have (because there is a good chance fornication wasn't the only thing they did). The more they see their own weaknesses at your age in you, the less they will trust you.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2013, 07:32:09 AM »

Don't rush. Gain experience and patience and soon the age will come when you can simply be on your own. Don't let external things bother you, but focus on your inner life. Honestly, if I were you, I'd benefit from my parents keeping me out of trouble and causing me to live a quiet life (it's all you need in order to focus on God, on the inner life).
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2013, 07:43:12 AM »

Get married. I'm fairly confident that no mother will learn that her sons are not 10 years old anymore until they get married. Apparently they think that the responsibility of taking care of men is transferred to the wives after the weddings.
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2013, 08:13:46 AM »

Don't rush. Gain experience and patience and soon the age will come when you can simply be on your own. Don't let external things bother you, but focus on your inner life. Honestly, if I were you, I'd benefit from my parents keeping me out of trouble and causing me to live a quiet life (it's all you need in order to focus on God, on the inner life).

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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2013, 08:13:57 AM »

Get married. I'm fairly confident that no mother will learn that her sons are not 10 years old anymore until they get married. Apparently they think that the responsibility of taking care of men is transferred to the wives after the weddings.

Not so good advice.
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2013, 10:36:08 AM »

Using my parent's electricity and internet, probably computer to complain about them.
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2013, 10:38:26 AM »

Want independence?  Move out and don't dare to ask your parents for money, etc.

I know I'm free to ignore your whining here on oc.net, but every time you complain and bellyache and moan about your unenlightened and restrictive parents (so sorry they don't allow you to drink and smoke. I'm sure if they did, years from now, if you were to develop lung cancer and/or some kind of alcoholic addiction, I'm sure you'd blame them all the same) or complain, bellyache and moan about those evil Republicans, I wonder just how much hatred and ill will you have built up inside you.  It's one thing to be passionate about issues, but you conduct yourself with such vitriol on this forum towards people that dont give you what you think youre entitled to (i.e. your parents) or don't agree with you (republicans/conservatives, libertarians  evangelicals, Protestants, orthodox who don't see things your way) that maybe you should go elsewhere for assistance with your problems, like a therapist.  Of course you won't do that because that would require you to accept blame and responsibility.  You're 17 and you demand via temper tantrum to be treated as an adult.  Can't have it both ways.



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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2013, 11:07:32 AM »

Get married. I'm fairly confident that no mother will learn that her sons are not 10 years old anymore until they get married. Apparently they think that the responsibility of taking care of men is transferred to the wives after the weddings.

Not so good advice.

It may not be a good thing to advise someone to marry in order to solve a problem or achieve a goal.  That said, you can't really disagree with the reason given: that describes every traditional mother I've ever met, both the "ethnic" moms and the "Americans who aren't so busy trying to be your BFF that they forgot how you got here in the first place" moms. 
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2013, 12:20:03 PM »

Everyone I know is always teasing me and telling me that I need to assert some more independence from my parents because they are too controlling and/or overprotective. Even adults tell me this. That being said, I guess I could see where they are coming from.

My parents text message me every half-an-hour whenever I go somewhere without them to make sure that I am okay, and get mad if I don't respond within 10 minutes (even at Liturgy), they won't let me accept rides from people or use public transportation without an adult (they'd rather chauffer me around until I get my license), my mom still picks out my clothing at the department store and makes me try it on for her, they don't let me drink or smoke, my mother is overprotective when it comes to me socializing with females, in which, my dad has to tell her to back off, etc. The list goes on.

I'm a robot. I just go along with whatever they tell me to do and I guess it's time I start acting like a man more and gaining independence. How do I do this without angering them?

EDIT: I'm 17

Get a  job.  Make some money.  Buy your own clothes. 

Make more money, pay for your college education. 

Get better job, make more money and help your folks out with some of their bills.

Seriously!  You've got parents who worry about you...what has the world come to?  How ungrateful can you be?

When you are making a living, and living in your own place, then you can start being independent...

....and in the far distant future, when your parents die, you will wish you still had someone who cared enough about you to text and see if you were still alive.

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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2013, 01:34:39 PM »

Don't rush. Gain experience and patience and soon the age will come when you can simply be on your own. Don't let external things bother you, but focus on your inner life. Honestly, if I were you, I'd benefit from my parents keeping me out of trouble and causing me to live a quiet life (it's all you need in order to focus on God, on the inner life).

Good advice!

Pray for your parents, James.

They are trying to do the best they can. The fact that they are concerned about your welfare speaks volumes as not all parents are concerned about their children or their country.
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2013, 02:04:05 PM »

Everyone I know is always teasing me and telling me that I need to assert some more independence from my parents because they are too controlling and/or overprotective. Even adults tell me this. That being said, I guess I could see where they are coming from.

My parents text message me every half-an-hour whenever I go somewhere without them to make sure that I am okay, and get mad if I don't respond within 10 minutes (even at Liturgy), they won't let me accept rides from people or use public transportation without an adult (they'd rather chauffer me around until I get my license), my mom still picks out my clothing at the department store and makes me try it on for her, they don't let me drink or smoke, my mother is overprotective when it comes to me socializing with females, in which, my dad has to tell her to back off, etc. The list goes on.

I'm a robot. I just go along with whatever they tell me to do and I guess it's time I start acting like a man more and gaining independence. How do I do this without angering them?

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What do you want us to do, James? We're hearing only your side of the story, since, AFAIK, your parents are not on this board to defend themselves. Without hearing their side of the story, we really cannot construct in our own minds a holistic view of what's going on in your family. We do know from the Scriptures, however, that your parents have a responsibility to bring you up in the way you should go and that you have a responsibility to honor them--while you are still a child in their custody, that means you must obey them. Quite naturally, then, in the absence of any information from them that suggests we should do otherwise, we are going to side with your parents.
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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2013, 02:16:48 PM »

I think some people are being a bit hard on James in this thread. He didn't rant or complain about his parents, he gave a non-emotional description of his situation and asked how he could gain more independence, without angering them.
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2013, 02:29:42 PM »


Sure sounded a bit like complaining to me. 

His mom actually buys his clothes for him, AND makes him try them on!  How dare she?!

....and then she texts him to see if he okay.  Really?  In today's safe world, why wouldn't he be okay? 

...and that she actually stops what she's doing and drives him where he needs to go because she wants to keep him safe

...man, that mom sure is domineering.....I think he needs to assert a bit of independence from her....because it all seems to be about her.

Nobody is being any harder on James, than he's been on his mother.

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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2013, 02:40:32 PM »

Most of the folks here doesn't seem to remember what is it like to be a teenager. There's no way to convince parents to treat their teenage child as an adult and there's no way to have reasonable discussion with a teenager about his/her relationship with his/her parents. Making sense has really no use in threads like this. Parents just are annoying and it will remain that way until the teenager moves out, gets a job and gets married.
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« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2013, 03:26:53 PM »


My parents were never annoying.
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My parents were never annoying.

Entirely possible if kids have exactly the same kind of way of life as their parents have. Which is extremely rare in the West these days. Did you grew up in the Soviet Union?

I'm not a rural working class Pentecostal and hence my parents are annoying. I'm not a teenager either though.
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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2013, 03:46:37 PM »

My parents text message me every half-an-hour whenever I go somewhere without them to make sure that I am okay

That's bizarre.

my mom still picks out my clothing at the department store and makes me try it on for her

It's better than having to pick the clothes yourself.

they don't let me drink

It's illegal in the States to drink under 21.

or smoke

Cigarettes make you stink and give you cancer.

my mother is overprotective when it comes to me socializing with females

Be glad that they don't ask you every other day why you still don't have a girlfriend.

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my mom still picks out my clothing at the department store and makes me try it on for her

It's better than having to pick the clothes yourself.

 Huh

Do you like the way your mother dresses? Would you like to wear similar albet more manly clothes yourself?
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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2013, 04:04:16 PM »

...my mom still picks out my clothing at the department store and makes me try it on for her...

Just say "no". She'll insist. Say "no" louder. Sometimes honoring your Father and Mother means helping them to grow up and let go of their children.
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« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2013, 04:06:39 PM »

I think some people are being a bit hard on James in this thread. He didn't rant or complain about his parents, he gave a non-emotional description of his situation and asked how he could gain more independence, without angering them.

Oh, come on!

He most certainly DID complain. 

Non emotional?  He talks about how he was annoyed by their actions.

Reread what he wrote.
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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2013, 04:06:59 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh
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« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2013, 04:09:40 PM »

...my mom still picks out my clothing at the department store and makes me try it on for her...

Just say "no". She'll insist. Say "no" louder. Sometimes honoring your Father and Mother means helping them to grow up and let go of their children.

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« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2013, 04:11:47 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

No, that would make sense.
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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2013, 04:12:21 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

Shhhh!!  You're not supposed to sound reasonable.  Wink
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« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2013, 04:19:17 PM »

Oookay... *brings out the firebrand* Hey, she's paying for them! Her money, her rules! If she things you'll look great in an orange paisley muumuu, orange paisley muumuu it is! Grin

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« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2013, 04:19:31 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

Generally speaking this would seem sensible; however, clothes that fit aren't in style. The fad right now are clothes 2 sizes too small (or "skinny"), though some people, especially guys, still like clothes (especially pants) 2 sizes too large.
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« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2013, 04:21:38 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

I never try them on first. I'm usually not even present when my clothes are bought.
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« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2013, 04:22:38 PM »

Oookay... *brings out the firebrand* Hey, she's paying for them! Her money, her rules! If she things you'll look great in an orange paisley muumuu, orange paisley muumuu it is! Grin

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This is bringing up bad memories. When I was in high school my gram was my legal guardian, and she'd buy these outlandish shirts, like a caveman riding a dinosaur, with "Omaha, Nebraska!" across the top. Truly bizarre stuff like that. I would insist that it was bizarre, and she'd say things like "Oh no one looks at your clothes" or "It was on sale, I got it for 60% off" as though that was supposed to make it better. Parents. Humph.  Cool
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« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2013, 04:26:40 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

Generally speaking this would seem sensible; however, clothes that fit aren't in style. The fad right now are clothes 2 sizes too small (or "skinny"), though some people, especially guys, still like clothes (especially pants) 2 sizes too large.

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« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2013, 04:30:54 PM »

Oookay... *brings out the firebrand* Hey, she's paying for them! Her money, her rules! If she things you'll look great in an orange paisley muumuu, orange paisley muumuu it is! Grin

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This is bringing up bad memories. When I was in high school my gram was my legal guardian, and she'd buy these outlandish shirts, like a caveman riding a dinosaur, with "Omaha, Nebraska!" across the top. Truly bizarre stuff like that. I would insist that it was bizarre, and she'd say things like "Oh no one looks at your clothes" or "It was on sale, I got it for 60% off" as though that was supposed to make it better. Parents. Humph.  Cool

I didn't know we were related. Sounds exactly like my mother.
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« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2013, 04:35:58 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

Generally speaking this would seem sensible; however, clothes that fit aren't in style. The fad right now are clothes 2 sizes too small (or "skinny"), though some people, especially guys, still like clothes (especially pants) 2 sizes too large.

Plumber's crack = instant, irrevocable friendzone.

Having a plumber's crack results in having more friends?
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« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2013, 05:18:28 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

I never try them on first. I'm usually not even present when my clothes are bought.

The first thing my husband did when we got married was give me his credit card and tell me to go shopping for him. I took his measurements and have been shopping for him ever since. He hates department stores and will not go into one of those stores. He tries on the clothes and shoes that I buy at home (never at the store) and rarely do I have to return an item. Often, I will purchase his clothes online, especially those that we have previously purchased. Lately, I have been sewing him PJs and Hawaiian shirts. The only time he will go shopping is when he must buy a suit. Those are different animals.
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« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2013, 05:21:42 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

Generally speaking this would seem sensible; however, clothes that fit aren't in style. The fad right now are clothes 2 sizes too small (or "skinny"), though some people, especially guys, still like clothes (especially pants) 2 sizes too large.

Plumber's crack = instant, irrevocable friendzone.

Having a plumber's crack results in having more friends?

Other plumbers. If those are your crew of choice, swell.
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« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2013, 05:23:17 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

Generally speaking this would seem sensible; however, clothes that fit aren't in style. The fad right now are clothes 2 sizes too small (or "skinny"), though some people, especially guys, still like clothes (especially pants) 2 sizes too large.

Plumber's crack = instant, irrevocable friendzone.

Having a plumber's crack results in having more friends?

Other plumbers. If those are your crew of choice, smell.

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« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2013, 06:57:10 PM »

Cigarettes make you stink and give you cancer.
It's also illegal in many states to smoke them before you turn 18.
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Cigarettes make you stink and give you cancer.
It's also illegal in many states to smoke them before you turn 18.
I kind of forgot about that law.
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« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2013, 01:04:38 PM »

I don't know how much free time you may have, but if you have an hour or so every few weeks, even this could be good for volunteering. If for instance you were to go out and learn how to do CPR at the Red Cross, I bet that would give your parents a positive impression. I worked for a few months at a food bank, and it turned out to be one of the best experiences I've had. Good luck, James.
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« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2013, 07:02:56 PM »

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I never try them on first. I'm usually not even present when my clothes are bought.
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« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2013, 07:18:51 PM »

I don't know how much free time you may have, but if you have an hour or so every few weeks, even this could be good for volunteering. If for instance you were to go out and learn how to do CPR at the Red Cross, I bet that would give your parents a positive impression. I worked for a few months at a food bank, and it turned out to be one of the best experiences I've had. Good luck, James.
This is some of the best advice I've seen on this thread. The more James acts like a mature young adult, the more his mom will be willing to treat him like one.
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« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2013, 08:25:23 PM »

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I never try them on first. I'm usually not even present when my clothes are bought.
QFT!  My wife is awesome because she does not require my attendance when she is buying my clothes.

That explains the pink tutu I saw you in a few weeks ago.
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« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2013, 08:29:42 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

I never try them on first. I'm usually not even present when my clothes are bought.
QFT!  My wife is awesome because she does not require my attendance when she is buying my clothes.

That explains the pink tutu I saw you in a few weeks ago.
Erm, well....this is embarrassing!  I didn't realize you were watching.  Well, since it is out there now, I might as well post a pic.

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Where exactly were you, that it was snowing a few weeks ago?
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I never try them on first. I'm usually not even present when my clothes are bought.
QFT!  My wife is awesome because she does not require my attendance when she is buying my clothes.

Why all men are like that? What's wrong with you? Shopping is fun.
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« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2013, 11:15:45 PM »

Why would anyone want to buy clothes without trying them on first? Don't you want them to, you know, fit? Huh

I never try them on first. I'm usually not even present when my clothes are bought.
QFT!  My wife is awesome because she does not require my attendance when she is buying my clothes.

Why all men are like that? What's wrong with you? Shopping is fun.

Only if you're shopping for cars, power tools, guns and ammo.  Otherwise, it's wasting money on frivolous things.
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« Reply #61 on: July 28, 2013, 11:16:15 PM »

Not all men are like that. Although I go shopping *with* my husband when he buys clothing. I don't pick out his clothing. He is an adult man, I have 6 children and myself to pick out clothing for (eldest daughter at 11 still wants my input). I have much better things to do with my time than pick out an adult man's clothing. He wears a uniform to work, so he doesn't need much in the way of clothing.


And not all women enjoy clothing shopping, I certainly don't enjoy it all that much (for myself or the kids).
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« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2013, 11:17:15 PM »

I love shopping at home improvement stores, thrift stores, and the like. Even then, I have limits to the time I like being there. I might last longer at a knife show Cheesy
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I never try them on first. I'm usually not even present when my clothes are bought.
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« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2013, 12:38:26 AM »

LOL the women I have dated have terrible taste in clothing styles for men.  Tongue
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« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2013, 12:49:30 AM »

LOL the women I have dated have terrible taste in clothing styles for men.  Tongue

What kind of women are you dating? Sheesh!

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« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2013, 06:13:05 AM »

Only if you're shopping for cars, power tools, guns and ammo.  Otherwise, it's wasting money on frivolous things.

Things like food and toilet roll are only frivolous until you run out.
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Most of the folks here doesn't seem to remember what is it like to be a teenager.

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Most of the folks here doesn't seem to remember what is it like to be a teenager.

I remember clearly.  I was horrible. Embarrassed
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I wasn't horrible. I was generally speaking obedient, did great at school, didn't take any drugs, drink alcohol or smoke tobacco. I believed in God and went to the church both with and without my parents. I didn't have much of a will, self-esteem or personhood during my teenage years and I was generally speaking somewhat anguished over our family life but I guess obedience and respect is all that matters.
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I wasn't horrible. I was generally speaking obedient, did great at school, didn't take any drugs, drink alcohol or smoke tobacco. I believed in God and went to the church both with and without my parents. I didn't have much of a will, self-esteem or personhood during my teenage years and I was generally speaking somewhat anguished over our family life but I guess obedience and respect is all that matters.

I was the same. I was very stubborn, however, and just wanted to be left alone.  My parents were always trying to get me to get out of the house. I think they would have liked it if I got into trouble once. Grin
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Only if you're shopping for cars, power tools, guns and ammo.  Otherwise, it's wasting money on frivolous things.

Things like food and toilet roll are only frivolous until you run out.
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« Reply #73 on: August 13, 2013, 10:21:15 AM »

Everyone I know is always teasing me and telling me that I need to assert some more independence from my parents because they are too controlling and/or overprotective. Even adults tell me this. That being said, I guess I could see where they are coming from.

My parents text message me every half-an-hour whenever I go somewhere without them to make sure that I am okay, and get mad if I don't respond within 10 minutes (even at Liturgy), they won't let me accept rides from people or use public transportation without an adult (they'd rather chauffer me around until I get my license), my mom still picks out my clothing at the department store and makes me try it on for her, they don't let me drink or smoke, my mother is overprotective when it comes to me socializing with females, in which, my dad has to tell her to back off, etc. The list goes on.

I'm a robot. I just go along with whatever they tell me to do and I guess it's time I start acting like a man more and gaining independence. How do I do this without angering them?

EDIT: I'm 17

Join the Legion and change your name.  But seriously, at least you have parents that give a crap.  There are many that don't even have that.
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« Reply #74 on: August 13, 2013, 11:27:01 AM »

Hahaha oh I remember the days of my mother picking out clothes and having me try them on as well. Happened before school season.

I'm pretty sure it stopped before middle school.

But my mother is very overprotective as well, but I have always taken it in stride and given into her demands because I love her dearly. I'm already in my 20s but I will always be a child in her eyes, doesn't really bother me much.

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lol I think his parents care very much! Al thought,when your a teen It feels like they are watching all the time.I think he needs some time for him self.He needs to tell his parents that he loves them but feels a little smothered by them.He appreciates them for all they do and He knows how scared they must feel seeing him grow up,but all will be OK.trust in God and him.
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« Reply #76 on: August 26, 2013, 08:08:03 AM »

Hahaha oh I remember the days of my mother picking out clothes and having me try them on as well. Happened before school season.

I'm pretty sure it stopped before middle school.

But my mother is very overprotective as well, but I have always taken it in stride and given into her demands because I love her dearly. I'm already in my 20s but I will always be a child in her eyes, doesn't really bother me much.

My perfect woman would be one that acts like a mother to me.

My wife says she hates acting like a mother to me.  Then she buys me clothes. Grin  Hahaha, I love it.  It is perfect.
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