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« on: July 18, 2013, 09:54:04 AM »

I wonder if anyone could provide me with links to any discussion/teaching/pronouncements from the OO juristictions in regard to Medical Ethics- chiefly Abortion and Contraception- however anything would be of interest in this field?

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2013, 08:56:44 PM »

I just realized I asked this in a thread that was in another section, but I'm kind of curious about the OO take on contraception.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2013, 09:22:13 PM »

To tell you the truth, I don't hear about it that often in the Armenian church.  What I have been told is that if the couple is married, and the form of birth control is not abortifacient, it's OK.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2013, 01:53:19 AM »

Wonderful, thank you. That is so much simpler than some other groups.
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2013, 03:01:50 AM »

Here are some answers to questions concerning contraception, given by my bishop, HG Bishop Youssef of the Southern United States:

Is contraception considered a "grave sin", like the RCC views it?

What about the morning after pill?

Under what, if any, circumstances may an Orthodox Christian use birth control?
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2013, 03:48:24 AM »

What I have been told is that if the couple is married, and the form of birth control is not abortifacient, it's OK.

What does being married have to do with it? If the couple is not married, I guess their sin would be having extramarital sex, whether there is birth control or not.

In fact, if one cannot keep himself from this sin, I'd consider it preferable to use a condom to reduce the danger of HIV being spread.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2013, 11:25:50 PM »

Here are some answers to questions concerning contraception, given by my bishop, HG Bishop Youssef of the Southern United States:

Is contraception considered a "grave sin", like the RCC views it?

What about the morning after pill?

Under what, if any, circumstances may an Orthodox Christian use birth control?

Great links!  

A quick disclaimer:    Tone and context can often be misjudged in this setting.  I don't wan't that to happen here.  I am Roman Catholic and I don't believe in using birth control.   Having said that, my questions are out of curiosity; they are not bait for a debate.  Sorry, I know people here are very charitable but sometimes when the topic is a sensitive and personal; [like abortion or birth control] people read things the wrong way.

The answer giving for using birth control was well thought out but to be honest I was surprised by the answer because of how patristic OO are.  The good bishop did not add any footnotes to where he develeoped his idea from and so it had me thinking a couple of things:

Do OO draw the the belief that birth control is acceptable from church fathers or from a fresh look at science and theology?

How do OO develop teachings on these issues?  Is it acceptable for one jurisdiction to teach that its wrong while the other teach that is ok?

I'm not trying to troll the threat here so if these questions should be in another thread, then I apologize.


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In fact, if one cannot keep himself from this sin, I'd consider it preferable to use a condom to reduce the danger of HIV being spread.

You make a valid point but I feel more needs to be said.  Condoms are effective in a single use.  When you look at there cumulative effectiveness they are must less reliable.  The chance of infection greatly increases.  What makes me nervous is promoting condom use can give people a false sense of security and ultimately lead them to get infected.  Add substance abuse into the mix and I bet the chance of infection increases higher because of the change of making a mistake and not realizing it.  I have reflected on this issue a lot recently so please don't take this as an attack, but rather its just me getting to vent some of the things i've though and read about.  


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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2013, 06:29:46 AM »

Cumulative vs. single effectiveness of condoms? You mean some people wash and reuse them?
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2013, 09:47:39 AM »

Hi,

No there is a mathematical equation used. I will link a couple of commentaries on the subject.  I highly recommend following the footnotes.  Don't take the authors word for it.  In fact, I would also read the whole study if you have the time.  Something I've learned recently is that for what ever reason, important data can get omitted from the conclusion of studies.   

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/contraception/upload/condoms-aids-fact-sheet.pdf
http://www.virginityrocks.com/condom-stats.html

Cumulative vs. single effectiveness of condoms? You mean some people wash and reuse them?
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