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What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« on: July 09, 2013, 06:47:09 PM »
This tread is for all of us to post what ever we have learnt from the life of The Christ as stated in the Gospels.
I'll start with.
I learnt from The Christ's prayer in Gethsemane(Mat 26:36-46,Mk 14:32-42 and Lk 22:39-46) to get ready to accept whatever the will of God may be, while praying and hoping for the best.

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2013, 07:36:09 PM »

To love, forgive and help everyone.

I learned that....but, doing it is a different matter.   :angel:
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2013, 07:40:38 PM »
That His idea of love and forgiveness is far superior to anything I could come up with.
He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will have no end.

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2013, 08:04:29 PM »
I can't articulate or describe what it is.
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2013, 08:21:28 PM »
This tread is for all of us to post what ever we have learnt from the life of The Christ as stated in the Gospels.
I'll start with.
I learnt from The Christ's prayer in Gethsemane(Mat 26:36-46,Mk 14:32-42 and Lk 22:39-46) to get ready to accept whatever the will of God may be, while praying and hoping for the best.

Greetings tetepet in the name of our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ!  A wonderful reflection.  Thank you.   

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2013, 08:23:36 PM »

To love, forgive and help everyone.

I learned that....but, doing it is a different matter.   :angel:

Hi Liza!  One of the toughest parts of this helping people based, not on our own will nor on the other person's expectations, but rather on God's will and expectations even when we (or the other person) doesn't like it. 

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2013, 08:41:05 PM »
It is better to tell everyone what a failure I am than to tell them what they want to hear. To rejoice in my failure.
The Lord gathers his sheep, I fear I am a goat. Lord have mercy.

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2013, 08:40:37 AM »
That there is no such thing as real Christians.
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2013, 08:40:37 AM »
It is better to tell everyone what a failure I am than to tell them what they want to hear. To rejoice in my failure.
I do not think you are a failure Sinful Hypocrite.
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2013, 06:47:52 PM »
It is better to tell everyone what a failure I am than to tell them what they want to hear. To rejoice in my failure.
I do not think you are a failure Sinful Hypocrite.

God bless you Achronos. That is so very nice of you . Thank you
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2013, 09:47:35 PM »
That there is no such thing as real Christians.
Everyone is a LARPer?
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2013, 01:45:52 AM »
It is better to tell everyone what a failure I am than to tell them what they want to hear. To rejoice in my failure.

Despondent self-deprecation is indicative of serious illness, either spiritual, mental, or both.  The internet is no place to get help.  I am very serious about this. 

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2013, 01:46:49 AM »
That there is no such thing as real Christians.

 ::)

Nice way to rectify in your own mind the torments that plague it.

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2013, 06:16:57 AM »
After being Orthodox for a little while, I saw a lecture where one elder, may his humble prayers be over me, told about one of the greatest commandment hidden within the gospel. Of course it struck me that "Love thy Lord your God with all your heart..." should be in the first place, because our Lord quoted it.

But the humble Elder quoted Luke 17:10 and commented than when you as a Christian has fulfilled everything you could fulfill, there´s only this commandment left. It´s a parable of a servant, but the commandment is fully clear when my eyes got opened to it. A beautiful and magnificent teaching he taught me as a Orthodox Christian.

Luke 17:10
10 So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.’”
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2013, 09:39:27 AM »
That there is no such thing as real Christians.
Everyone is a LARPer?
I touched on this in the other thread on arresting. The more I read the Gospel, the more the above is becoming much more clear to me.
“There is your brother, naked, crying, and you stand there confused over the choice of an attractive floor covering.”

– St. Ambrose of Milan

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2013, 06:29:40 PM »
It is better to tell everyone what a failure I am than to tell them what they want to hear. To rejoice in my failure.

Despondent self-deprecation is indicative of serious illness, either spiritual, mental, or both.  The internet is no place to get help.  I am very serious about this.  
Is that what the Lord taught, Or Paul when he wrote Romans 7:15,  that what he should not do, that is what he does, and that which he knows he should do , he does not do. Paul was saying what a failure he was too.
Matt 5:3
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

God bless you .
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2013, 07:19:35 PM »
It is better to tell everyone what a failure I am than to tell them what they want to hear. To rejoice in my failure.

Despondent self-deprecation is indicative of serious illness, either spiritual, mental, or both.  The internet is no place to get help.  I am very serious about this.  
Is that what the Lord taught, Or Paul when he wrote Romans 7:15,  that what he should not do, that is what he does, and that which he knows he should do , he does not do. Paul was saying what a failure he was too.
Matt 5:3
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

God bless you .

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary says this in part about Matthew 5:3,
This strong language was the result of St. Paul's great advance in holiness, and the depth of his self-abasement and hatred of sin. If we do not understand this language, it is because we are so far beneath him in holiness, knowledge of the spirituality of God's law, and the evil of our own hearts, and hatred of moral evil. And many believers have adopted the apostle's language, showing that it is suitable to their deep feelings of abhorrence of sin, and self-abasement.
The Lord gathers his sheep, I fear I am a goat. Lord have mercy.

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2013, 12:48:17 PM »
This tread is for all of us to post what ever we have learnt from the life of The Christ as stated in the Gospels.
I'll start with.
I learnt from The Christ's prayer in Gethsemane(Mat 26:36-46,Mk 14:32-42 and Lk 22:39-46) to get ready to accept whatever the will of God may be, while praying and hoping for the best.

Greetings tetepet in the name of our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ!  A wonderful reflection.  Thank you.   
Thank you

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2013, 10:31:47 PM »
It is better to tell everyone what a failure I am than to tell them what they want to hear. To rejoice in my failure.

Despondent self-deprecation is indicative of serious illness, either spiritual, mental, or both.  The internet is no place to get help.  I am very serious about this.  
Is that what the Lord taught, Or Paul when he wrote Romans 7:15,  that what he should not do, that is what he does, and that which he knows he should do , he does not do. Paul was saying what a failure he was too.
Matt 5:3
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

God bless you .

Poor in spirit is distinct from what you are doing. 

"Despondency is a paralysis of soul, an enervation of the mind, neglect of asceticism, hatred of the vow made. It calls those of the world blessed."  (St. John of the Ladder)

The Church is a hospital.  If I should call your condition "well," I would be lying.  Your very post is a cry for help.  I will no longer post on this publically. 


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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2013, 06:33:04 PM »
You did not read the Commentary from Matthew Henry's, It uses the word Self-abasement for what Paul said in Romans 7:15, It also mentions why you will not understand as it is at a level of understanding most people never see.

It is no different when Jesus spoke  the parable of the publican and the sinner,

The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector

9To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10“Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

13“But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

14“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

The man who is self-debasing is the one who is exalted by God, The one who thinks himself righteous in his own eyes is humbled by God.

The fact is that is exactly what Paul was doing when he wrote Romans 7:15, and what I was saying , even if it was not clear to you.
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2013, 07:29:46 PM »
"Hypocrite reader - my fellow - my brother!"  ~St Jerome

This is similar to what I wa saying, St. Jerome is also self-debasing, and a wise man I know once said "There are two kinds of people in the world , Hypocrites and dead ones."

Most people IMHO will never understand this, it is only learned, I think , through extreme hardship such as racism, most people I have ever spoken about it have no concept of it. I believe it to be all through Jesus teachings, as it is simply to humble oneself and let God do the exalting.

But in no way do I achieve that, as I am a sinful man and I do not always do what I know I should, But I try.Sometimes.
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2013, 08:51:30 PM »
-I'll never live up to Him

-Life sucks

-Evil is more powerful than good
...Or it's just possible he's a mouthy young man on an internet forum.
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2013, 11:10:31 AM »

-Evil is more powerful than good

You learned this from Jesus??  Which Jesus?  One of these guys?:
    Jesús Alou (born 1942), Dominican baseball player
    Jesus Baza Duenas, Catholic priest in Guam
    Jesús Flores (born 1984), Venezuelan baseball player
    Jesús Guevara, Venezuelan boxer
    Jesús Guzmán (born 1984), Venezuelan baseball player
    Jesús Herrera, Mexican long-distance runner
    Jesús Jiménez Zamora (1823–1897), President of Costa Rica from 1863 to 1866 and 1868 to 1870
    Jesus Quintana, character in the film The Big Lebowski
    Jesús Chucho Sanoja (1926–1998), Venezuelan musician
    Jesús López-Cobos (b. 1940), Spanish conductor
    Jesús Martínez (b. 1976), Mexican boxer
    Jesús Montero (born 1989), Venezuelan baseball player
    Jesús Navas, Spanish football player
    Jesús Pérez (b. 1971), Colombian boxer
    Jesús Chávez (b. 1972), Mexican boxer
    Jesús Pérez (b. 1984), Venezuelan cyclist
    GG Allin was originally named Jesus Christ Allin
    James Jesus Angleton, Associate Deputy Director of Operations for Counter-Intelligence of the CIA
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2013, 06:07:07 PM »
It depends on what type of power you seek. The evil one had no power over Jesus because the lord was not interested in what  he was selling.

If you crave those earthly things that do not build treasure in Heaven, then yes evil has tremendous power.

We all struggle daily with this issue, but good can prevail with the Lord's help. We just have to ask him to help us and admit we are powerless.
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2013, 07:47:01 PM »
-I'll never live up to Him

-Life sucks

-Evil is more powerful than good

I'm sorry you get that from Jesus' message. I actually get just the opposite. But IMHO it's really important to read His words directly from the Gospels, and not filtered through the commentators. When you do, it becomes a lot clearer what He's trying to tell us.  8)
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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2013, 10:32:34 AM »
I learnt that sometime it is beat to just stop talking and walk away.(Luke 4:29-30)

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2013, 10:42:34 AM »

- The deliverance of one man may cost another man his livelihood. But God provides.
- It's ok to get mad and act strangely if you have a good reason.
- Love, despite what the song says, is not merely a second hand emotion.
- God cares about us. Like, a lot. You best care about him as well.
- Life sucks sometimes, even when you're God.
- Anyone can be redeemed. Incredibly, this is true even for the intelligentsia.
- Jesus was a resourceful guy.
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2013, 11:40:11 AM »
I learnt that sometime it is beat to just stop talking and walk away.(Luke 4:29-30)

If you mean "best", I'm in full agreement.  If you mean "beat", I don't know what you mean.  ;D ;D
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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2013, 12:53:22 PM »
I learnt that sometime it is beat to just stop talking and walk away.(Luke 4:29-30)

If you mean "best", I'm in full agreement.  If you mean "beat", I don't know what you mean.  ;D ;D
Yeah I mean 'best'

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Re: What I've Learnt from Jesus.
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2013, 01:40:01 PM »
That there is no such thing as real Christians.

Correct. There are Genuine and True Christians. :police: