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Friend with Serious Illness
« on: July 07, 2013, 06:14:42 PM »
Hello All,

If you could all please say a prayer for a friend of mine.  He just found out that he is HIV positive.  He is quite young and is in complete shock.  He lives with his parents and unfortunately he is certain that if he told them about this new information they would kick him out of the house rendering him homeless.  The fact that they have let him reside with them at all is a miracle.  They hold to a very warped view of the Gospel.  He is a good man with a good heart, but very young and naive, and unfortunately he made a bad decision that will affect him for the rest of his life.  It is just devastating.  Please pray for both his physical and spiritual health.  He is understandably in a very dark place right now.  And pray for me, that I am able to provide the emotional support he needs during this time.  Unfortunately, I have had difficulty managing my own grief response as it pertains to this new reality. 

Thank you.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 06:16:20 PM »
Lord have mercy!
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2013, 06:57:43 PM »
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 07:16:56 PM »
Lord have mercy.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 07:18:23 PM »
Lord have mercy.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2013, 09:32:38 AM »
Lord, have mercy on John and his friend.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2013, 09:38:14 AM »

May the Lord show mercy to all, grant health and understanding to this young man, his family and loved ones.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 09:58:13 AM »
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 10:12:05 AM »
Lord have mercy!
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 09:32:40 PM »
Thank you all!
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 10:13:56 PM »
Lord have mercy on Ionnis and his friend!
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 11:57:16 PM »
Lord have mercy.
Psalm 37:23 The Lord guides a man safely in the way he should go.

Prov. 3: 5-6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2013, 10:16:43 PM »
Thank you for your prayers.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2013, 12:12:55 AM »
Hello All,

I have a bit of an update.  As you know, it has been over two months since my friend tested positive for HIV.  Since that time he has not followed up with any medical care.  Last week he finally admitted to me that he had no intention of seeking out treatment.  He stated that he wanted to die as quickly as possible.  He is only in his 20s!  After a long conversation and a day spent together he seems to be in a better place, so much so that he went ahead and scheduled an appointment to see a doctor, but I am still very worried about him.  He seems to have little hope left.  His home situation is horrible and his church situation even worse.  I think he has stopped believing that God loves him.  I fear he has fallen into a state of self-hatred.  It is very scary.  Please, please pray.  If anyone of you knew him, you'd love him the instant you met him.  He is a truly sweet, kind person.  I beg you to remember him continually in your prayers.  Please. 

John   

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2013, 12:27:05 AM »
Continued prayers. Lord, have mercy.
Psalm 37:23 The Lord guides a man safely in the way he should go.

Prov. 3: 5-6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2013, 03:03:58 AM »
Lord, have mercy on your friend.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2013, 03:58:36 AM »
Lord have mercy!

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2013, 07:01:12 AM »
Lord, have mercy on John's friend. Lead him out of despondency and into constructive action.
Have mercy also on John, that he may stay strong to help his friend.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2013, 07:50:21 AM »
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2013, 07:57:34 AM »
Lord have mercy!

A lot have happened in recent years. With the right treatment, your friend would have good chances for a relatively normal life.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2013, 08:13:23 AM »
Lord Have Mercy Lord Have Mercy Lord Have Mercy

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2013, 10:27:21 AM »

May the Lord have mercy upon this young man, grant him fortitude to trust in God and seek His help, give him strength to seek medical assistance, , and may his family be loving towards him.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2013, 07:48:02 PM »
Lord, have mercy.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2013, 02:28:50 AM »
Lord have mercy

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2013, 08:25:14 PM »
Hello All,

I have a bit of an update.  As you know, it has been over two months since my friend tested positive for HIV.  Since that time he has not followed up with any medical care.  Last week he finally admitted to me that he had no intention of seeking out treatment.  He stated that he wanted to die as quickly as possible.  He is only in his 20s!  After a long conversation and a day spent together he seems to be in a better place, so much so that he went ahead and scheduled an appointment to see a doctor, but I am still very worried about him.  He seems to have little hope left.  His home situation is horrible and his church situation even worse.  I think he has stopped believing that God loves him.  I fear he has fallen into a state of self-hatred.  It is very scary.  Please, please pray.  If anyone of you knew him, you'd love him the instant you met him.  He is a truly sweet, kind person.  I beg you to remember him continually in your prayers.  Please. 

John   



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Any updates?
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2013, 11:57:49 PM »
Thanks again to all of you who have been praying for my friend.  And Maria, thank you for inquiring into my friend's situation.  The good news is that he has attended two doctors appointments thus far.  Unfortunately, upon going to his second appointment he was informed he owed $172 for the services previously rendered.  He paid it and now has less than $20 in his checking account.  He has no savings account.  During that second appointment the doctor ordered a whole host of labs.  My friend went to the lab and found out that the labs costs nearly $2,000.  Fortunately, he has medical coverage, but I reviewed his policy and well, he will be left with several hundred dollars in bills just from the second visit and the lab work, which he cannot afford whatsoever.  A short-term solution has been found to have the medical bills paid, but long-term there are some issues.  We were able to find him a case manager with the county in which he resides that deals with patients with HIV/AIDS.  This person might be able to connect him to some government programs that will assist with the medical costs associated with treating the HIV.  Unfortunately, his meeting with the case manager is not until next week and from my brief look at some of the criteria, I'm not sure if he meets eligibility requirements.  My friend was/is very close to giving up, especially after the second appointment.  He finally got the courage to go to the medical appointment and then was crushed (to say the least) when he realized he wouldn't be able to afford the necessary medical care.  Also, his t-cell count is shockingly, dangerously low.  The family situation has not changed either.  Please continue to pray.  Now more than ever.  Thank you again.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2013, 05:16:44 AM »
Lord have mercy.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2013, 05:23:24 AM »
Thanks again to all of you who have been praying for my friend.  And Maria, thank you for inquiring into my friend's situation.  The good news is that he has attended two doctors appointments thus far.  Unfortunately, upon going to his second appointment he was informed he owed $172 for the services previously rendered.  He paid it and now has less than $20 in his checking account.  He has no savings account.  During that second appointment the doctor ordered a whole host of labs.  My friend went to the lab and found out that the labs costs nearly $2,000.  Fortunately, he has medical coverage, but I reviewed his policy and well, he will be left with several hundred dollars in bills just from the second visit and the lab work, which he cannot afford whatsoever.  A short-term solution has been found to have the medical bills paid, but long-term there are some issues.  We were able to find him a case manager with the county in which he resides that deals with patients with HIV/AIDS.  This person might be able to connect him to some government programs that will assist with the medical costs associated with treating the HIV.  Unfortunately, his meeting with the case manager is not until next week and from my brief look at some of the criteria, I'm not sure if he meets eligibility requirements.  My friend was/is very close to giving up, especially after the second appointment.  He finally got the courage to go to the medical appointment and then was crushed (to say the least) when he realized he wouldn't be able to afford the necessary medical care.  Also, his t-cell count is shockingly, dangerously low.  The family situation has not changed either.  Please continue to pray.  Now more than ever.  Thank you again.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2013, 06:02:33 AM »
Lord have mercy!

Anything we can do?
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2013, 10:07:56 AM »
Lord, have mercy!

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2013, 10:11:11 AM »
Mercy
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2013, 09:44:21 PM »
Continued prayers. Lord, have mercy.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2013, 11:30:07 PM »
Lord have mercy

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2013, 11:38:02 PM »
Lord have Mercy.

As others have asked...is there something physical that we can do?  I always have a bit of spare cash going if that would assist even a tiny bit.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2013, 11:44:14 PM »
Lord have mercy.

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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2013, 02:25:26 PM »
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2013, 03:26:46 PM »
Lord have mercy.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2013, 03:47:55 PM »
Lord Have Mercy.

The Lord never punishes nor does He hate. We believe in a merciful God that loves all His children the same. Please remind your friend of this. Tell him to seek solace in our holy Theotokos and all our Saints.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2013, 05:16:13 PM »
may God have mercy on your friend and give him His divine love and care and courage.

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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2013, 10:56:38 PM »
Thank you all for your continued prayers.  And for those of you who offered financial assistance, thank you, but arrangements have been made for the time being.  Please just continue to pray.  If I have not mentioned this already (shame on me, if I haven't), he is not Orthodox.  He is LDS.  Pray regarding that as well. 
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2013, 10:33:31 PM »
Lord have mercy.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2013, 10:34:57 PM »
May the Lord continue to watch over him.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2013, 10:38:32 PM »
Lord have mercy.
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Re: Friend with Serious Illness
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2013, 10:57:03 AM »
That's really sad.

Lord, have mercy!

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