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Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« on: June 12, 2013, 10:34:38 AM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/11/us-russia-gay-idUSBRE95A0GE20130611

The photos in the article are pretty much the reason why I'm sharing this. Mostly it was the guy throwing the egg at the gay couple that caught my attention.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 10:42:43 AM »
It seems that Russia is seeing a resurgence in the lost art of throwing food at people you disagree with.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 10:56:49 AM »
I always tell myself I will never do something as unChristian as this... Then I see a gay couple and think "I should throw this egg at them"

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 11:12:20 AM »
It seems that Russia is seeing a resurgence in the lost art of thought/activity control through coercion, beatings, and paranoia.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2013, 11:16:58 AM »
Mostly it was the guy throwing the egg at the gay couple that caught my attention.

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Isn't the egg throwing a modern form of stoning? If so, then it should be done to all who practise sex outside marriage between a man and a woman  ::) :angel:. At least let's be consistent.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2013, 11:41:36 AM »
It seems that Russia is seeing a resurgence in the lost art of thought/activity control through coercion, beatings, and paranoia.

Fixed.

If you are going to change the activity you must also fix the pertinent adjective.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2013, 12:06:17 PM »
I'm waiting for SCOBA's declaration against these actions, and those who condone them.

Still waiting.

I remember when gay marriage went through in WA there was a declaration by the Orthodox clergy of Washington about it.

So I'm expecting a declaration about this any day now. Post is probably just slow.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2013, 12:19:14 PM »

I didn't see the picture of egg throwing, but, this one bothers me.



Nobody should be kicking them, especially not a kid.

Not supporting them in their sinful activities is one thing, violence is another.


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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2013, 12:25:05 PM »
Mostly it was the guy throwing the egg at the gay couple that caught my attention.

- Jade
Isn't the egg throwing a modern form of stoning? If so, then it should be done to all who practise sex outside marriage between a man and a woman  ::) :angel:. At least let's be consistent.

Only if the eggs are hard-boiled.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2013, 12:28:16 PM »
Mostly it was the guy throwing the egg at the gay couple that caught my attention.

- Jade
Isn't the egg throwing a modern form of stoning? If so, then it should be done to all who practise sex outside marriage between a man and a woman  ::) :angel:. At least let's be consistent.

Only if the eggs are hard-boiled.
OK - hard-boiled like those who throw them  :).

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2013, 12:32:49 PM »
Mostly it was the guy throwing the egg at the gay couple that caught my attention.

- Jade
Isn't the egg throwing a modern form of stoning? If so, then it should be done to all who practise sex outside marriage between a man and a woman  ::) :angel:. At least let's be consistent.

Only if the eggs are hard-boiled.
OK - hard-boiled like those who throw them  :).

Hard-boiled, but soft in the head. There's a nice paradox for you. :P
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2013, 12:34:30 PM »
I think those who get kicked are usually Christians whether they know it or not & those doing the kicking usually not Christians whatever they may think.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2013, 12:47:20 PM »
Oh, Russia

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2013, 01:30:02 PM »
Mostly it was the guy throwing the egg at the gay couple that caught my attention.

- Jade
Isn't the egg throwing a modern form of stoning? If so, then it should be done to all who practise sex outside marriage between a man and a woman  ::) :angel:. At least let's be consistent.

Only if the eggs are hard-boiled.

What a great idea!  I showed up to our last gay-rights parade with poached eggs.  That did not work at all.
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2013, 01:37:23 PM »
I'm relieved, but surprised, to see no clergy throwing things in these pictures. 
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2013, 01:38:45 PM »
I'm waiting for SCOBA's declaration against these actions, and those who condone them.

Still waiting.

I remember when gay marriage went through in WA there was a declaration by the Orthodox clergy of Washington about it.

So I'm expecting a declaration about this any day now. Post is probably just slow.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate for the MP to say something like Patriarch Ilia did when it happened in Georgia?
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2013, 01:58:04 PM »
Mostly it was the guy throwing the egg at the gay couple that caught my attention.

- Jade
Isn't the egg throwing a modern form of stoning? If so, then it should be done to all who practise sex outside marriage between a man and a woman  ::) :angel:. At least let's be consistent.

Only if the eggs are hard-boiled.

What a great idea!  I showed up to our last gay-rights parade with poached eggs.  That did not work at all.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2013, 02:20:14 PM »
Wouldn't it be more appropriate for the MP to say something like Patriarch Ilia did when it happened in Georgia?
It would be appropriate for the MP to do something.

But mankind is our business. Doesn't matter if it's happening in Russia or not.
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2013, 02:23:10 PM »
Mostly it was the guy throwing the egg at the gay couple that caught my attention.

- Jade
Isn't the egg throwing a modern form of stoning? If so, then it should be done to all who practise sex outside marriage between a man and a woman  ::) :angel:. At least let's be consistent.

Only if the eggs are hard-boiled.

What a great idea!  I showed up to our last gay-rights parade with poached eggs.  That did not work at all.

Yeah, that 'Kiss the Cook' apron didn't help either.

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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2013, 02:23:58 PM »
I'm waiting for SCOBA's declaration against these actions, and those who condone them.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2013, 02:28:04 PM »
It seems that Russia is seeing a resurgence in the lost art of throwing food at people you disagree with.

I'm surprised they even have food in the first place, let alone food to spare for throwing.
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2013, 02:30:38 PM »
Anyhow, this is one of those personal feelings vs. legality issues. Personally, I don't like homosexuality or support them, yet, at the same time, I don't support stopping them from doing what they want or harassing them (since they aren't harming anyone but themselves), because the one thing I hate even more than homosexuality is a police state.
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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2013, 02:34:33 PM »
because the one thing I hate even more than homosexuality is a police state.
of all the things in the world to hate, homosexuality is the SECOND?
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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2013, 02:40:25 PM »
I'm waiting for SCOBA's declaration against these actions, and those who condone them.

SCOBA is American, not Russian.
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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2013, 02:42:54 PM »
Anyhow, this is one of those personal feelings vs. legality issues. Personally, I don't like homosexuality or support them, yet, at the same time, I don't support stopping them from doing what they want or harassing them (since they aren't harming anyone but themselves),....
I disagree with your last part as homosexual behaviour can destroy families and cause hurt to others (imagine how you might be treated if you had to live with the public knowledge that your father has a boyfriend) - but I agree with your main point. It doesn't seem right that homosexuals are given undue attention - by both their detractors and their supporters.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2013, 02:50:56 PM »
(imagine how you might be treated if you had to live with the public knowledge that your father has a boyfriend)

I imagine it's no different than the public knowledge that my father was a drug addict, I have less money than most of my friends and that my mom miscarried.

Does homosexuality really disturb people this much?

You've got to be kidding me.
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2013, 02:58:34 PM »
http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/62086.htm

Apparently homosexuality is the #1 threat to civilization as we know it...
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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2013, 03:04:42 PM »
The parades and such could be seen as subversion so it is well within the Russian government's right to try and limit these.

Otherwise, the best thing Russians could do to stop this is if straight couples would actually get married and have kids.  Right now they are having population decline.  They are making less future Christians.  Get to it!
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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2013, 03:06:12 PM »
yep.  not poverty.  not violence.  not the abuse of human beings.  not global warming or the destruction of our natural resources.  not the threat of materialism and capitalism.  not those things and more.

nope.  it's homosexuality that will threaten human civilization.
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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2013, 03:09:53 PM »
Yeah... It's pretty depressing.

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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2013, 03:15:02 PM »
Yeah... It's pretty depressing.

It is.  They fail to realize that this is a symptom, not a cause.
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2013, 03:16:48 PM »
Anyhow, this is one of those personal feelings vs. legality issues. Personally, I don't like homosexuality or support them, yet, at the same time, I don't support stopping them from doing what they want or harassing them (since they aren't harming anyone but themselves),....
I disagree with your last part as homosexual behaviour can destroy families and cause hurt to others (imagine how you might be treated if you had to live with the public knowledge that your father has a boyfriend) - but I agree with your main point. It doesn't seem right that homosexuals are given undue attention - by both their detractors and their supporters.

Is that really a case of homosexual behavior destroying families, or society ostracizing those they don't understand?
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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2013, 03:20:06 PM »
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Edit...
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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2013, 03:24:20 PM »
34 replies. I was wondering if this was old news.

Of course not. The homophilia around here is off the charts.
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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2013, 03:37:09 PM »
I always tell myself I will never do something as unChristian as this... Then I see a gay couple and think "I should throw this egg at them"

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I'm feeling all anecdotal today.

When I got my license and split from the hell that was my home pretty much for good, my brother called me to stop by.

My brother is a serious fellow. Sorta quiet and easy going. I showed up and he was nearly in tears.

In my family, when a man is nearly in tears it means one of two things:

He is sad. We are not uptight like most of the guys I grew up around and know now about crying.
He is on the verge of homicide.

In this case, it was the latter.

And my brother was not to be trifled with, no matter what age he was and no matter how small he always had been. I bear a scar till this day from my brother taking flesh out of my arm with his teeth when he was about three and half. And the first time I was knocked unconscious it was because of my brother. He took a brick to back of head when I was around eight or so for something that help angered him days prior.

Well, he was bleeding from just below his eye. Someone in a car had thrown an egg at him. He knew who it was and had told them, there were three guys in the car, to meet him at one of the local areas used by us for fighting.

They were two years ahead of him in school and he wanted me to take him to settle the problem.

I had no desire to get into a fight that day so I told my brother I would take him but I wouldn't do anything unless a knife or gun was used.

So I took my little brother to meet these three guys. Each one larger than the next and the smallest larger than my little brother.

After about five minutes, two of the guys were bleeding and unconscious on the ground and my brother beating the one who threw the egg at him just enough so that he remain conscious and forced him to say and do many humiliating things.

This is a long way of saying, be careful how lightly you take throwing eggs at people. God help you if it happens to be someone like my little brother.



 
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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2013, 03:43:19 PM »

This is a long way of saying, be careful how lightly you take throwing eggs at people. God help you if it happens to be someone like my little brother.



 
well here's hoping a few of these egg throwers DO run across a couple of gays who are tough like your brother.
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« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2013, 03:56:11 PM »

This is a long way of saying, be careful how lightly you take throwing eggs at people. God help you if it happens to be someone like my little brother.



 
well here's hoping a few of these egg throwers DO run across a couple of gays who are tough like your brother.

They certainly exist, but how many of them actually go to these parades?  As Orthonorm once put it, parades are gay.
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« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2013, 03:56:22 PM »

This is a long way of saying, be careful how lightly you take throwing eggs at people. God help you if it happens to be someone like my little brother.



 
well here's hoping a few of these egg throwers DO run across a couple of gays who are tough like your brother.

I don't know how though should they be if they had to win a fight with 10:1 ratio.
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« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2013, 04:03:44 PM »

This is a long way of saying, be careful how lightly you take throwing eggs at people. God help you if it happens to be someone like my little brother.



 
well here's hoping a few of these egg throwers DO run across a couple of gays who are tough like your brother.

They certainly exist, but how many of them actually go to these parades? 
tough gay folks? ummmm a lot.

i wouldn't have messed with 40% of the folks that marched in the Baltimore Pride Parade recently.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2013, 04:34:10 PM »

This is a long way of saying, be careful how lightly you take throwing eggs at people. God help you if it happens to be someone like my little brother.



 
well here's hoping a few of these egg throwers DO run across a couple of gays who are tough like your brother.

They certainly exist, but how many of them actually go to these parades? 
tough gay folks? ummmm a lot.

i wouldn't have messed with 40% of the folks that marched in the Baltimore Pride Parade recently.


Is because you are small wimpy American girly-man, not big strong Russian policeman!



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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2013, 05:11:50 PM »
(imagine how you might be treated if you had to live with the public knowledge that your father has a boyfriend)

I imagine it's no different than the public knowledge that my father was a drug addict, I have less money than most of my friends and that my mom miscarried.

Does homosexuality really disturb people this much?

You've got to be kidding me.
Yes, actually it does. Some kids do get beat up just because a family member is gay, and they try to stand up for them (or not). People are mistreated for a lot of unnecessary and unfortunate reasons.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2013, 05:20:26 PM »
 With global economy being as it is, internationalist proletarian class consciousness dying all sorts of minorities will be scapegoated in order to detract attention from the real enemies: the owners and transaction era of capital and their political pawns. In Hungary I hear there is a resurgence of antisemitism and anti-gypsy sentiments.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2013, 06:39:17 PM »

This is a long way of saying, be careful how lightly you take throwing eggs at people. God help you if it happens to be someone like my little brother.



 
well here's hoping a few of these egg throwers DO run across a couple of gays who are tough like your brother.

They certainly exist, but how many of them actually go to these parades?  As Orthonorm once put it, parades are gay.

Look for the bears and the leathermen.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2013, 08:03:37 PM »
^now just because somebody has a fetish for leather or beards doesn't mean he'll be able to smash someone's face.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2013, 08:13:32 PM »
^now just because somebody has a fetish for leather or beards doesn't mean he'll be able to smash someone's face.

That's true, but those two groups are where you'll find most of the gay biker types.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2013, 08:27:33 PM »
gay biker types.

Yet another redundant expression.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2013, 08:32:56 PM »
ill say it again

the only problem i have with gays is the whole lifestyle they attach themselves to.

ok we get it, you are gay.

you dont need a lisp

gay mannerisms

gay parades

gay bars

gay whatever

knock it off

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2013, 08:35:00 PM »
ill say it again

the only problem i have with gays is the whole lifestyle they attach themselves to.

ok we get it, you are gay.

you dont need a lisp

gay mannerisms

gay parades

gay bars

gay whatever

knock it off

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I disagree.  We need more.  We also need gay restaurants, gay coffee shops, gay libraries, gay schools, more gay neighborhoods, etc., etc.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #50 on: June 12, 2013, 08:38:23 PM »
ill say it again

the only problem i have with gays is the whole lifestyle they attach themselves to.

ok we get it, you are gay.

you dont need a lisp

gay mannerisms

gay parades

gay bars

gay whatever

knock it off

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I disagree.  We need more.  We also need gay restaurants, gay coffee shops, gay libraries, gay schools, more gay neighborhoods, etc., etc.

Again, all the above are already gay.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2013, 08:45:54 PM »
Well how's about we open up us a straight library see hows them city council like it and watch what happens with them reporters
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #52 on: June 12, 2013, 08:47:27 PM »
gay restaurants


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gay coffee shops,


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gay libraries


the whiteheads part is killing me.

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gay schools


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more gay neighborhoods,

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #53 on: June 12, 2013, 08:51:50 PM »
Well how's about we open up us a straight library see hows them city council like it and watch what happens with them reporters

What's more gayer than sharing?

Isn't that the whole point of kindergarten? To learn that one very important life lesson?
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #54 on: June 12, 2013, 08:55:27 PM »
I always tell myself I will never do something as unChristian as this... Then I see a gay couple and think "I should throw this egg at them"

Lord have Mercy

^same.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #55 on: June 12, 2013, 08:59:38 PM »
Well how's about we open up us a straight library see hows them city council like it and watch what happens with them reporters

I've often thought it would be fun to build a subdivision in Arizona, and refuse to sell any of the houses to straight people.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2013, 09:00:01 PM »
Who wants Chick-Fil-A?
ill take the without meat in the bun #6 for 9 dollars
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« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2013, 09:00:48 PM »
Well how's about we open up us a straight library see hows them city council like it and watch what happens with them reporters

I've often thought it would be fun to build a subdivision in Arizona, and refuse to sell any of the houses to straight people.
dont ask dont tell

you got a bunch of gay underwriters who have the largest gaydars to detect this crap
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« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2013, 09:26:29 PM »
Well how's about we open up us a straight library see hows them city council like it and watch what happens with them reporters

I've often thought it would be fun to build a subdivision in Arizona, and refuse to sell any of the houses to straight people.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2013, 09:55:27 PM »
gay bars

I was so let down the first time I went to a gay bar. It was just so... vanilla. Really nice people running the place though.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2013, 09:56:24 PM »
gay bars

I was so let down the first time I went to a gay bar. It was just so... vanilla. Really nice people running the place though.
The one in my town is a joke.  OLD guys with rainbows up everywhere.  It's really pathetic. 

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2013, 10:02:43 PM »
gay bars

I was so let down the first time I went to a gay bar. It was just so... vanilla. Really nice people running the place though.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #62 on: June 13, 2013, 11:01:25 AM »
I may be going to pride parade with my wife and a gay friend of mine here in Baltimore this weekend.  You guys want pics?  You think Putin will want me to send pics?
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #63 on: June 14, 2013, 02:54:59 PM »
(imagine how you might be treated if you had to live with the public knowledge that your father has a boyfriend)

I imagine it's no different than the public knowledge that my father was a drug addict, I have less money than most of my friends and that my mom miscarried.

Does homosexuality really disturb people this much?

You've got to be kidding me.
Yes, actually it does. Some kids do get beat up just because a family member is gay, and they try to stand up for them (or not). People are mistreated for a lot of unnecessary and unfortunate reasons.

So?

Then stop the bullies and combat the violence. Why should the innocent party have to change just for the bad party? I feel bad for people like you. That's like telling a Black kid during the Civil Rights Movement to bleach his skin so that bigots don't bully him, or a woman not to be beautiful so she doesn't get raped.

Am I the only one who sees the stupidity here?
...Or it's just possible he's a mouthy young man on an internet forum.
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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #64 on: June 14, 2013, 03:28:51 PM »
(imagine how you might be treated if you had to live with the public knowledge that your father has a boyfriend)

I imagine it's no different than the public knowledge that my father was a drug addict, I have less money than most of my friends and that my mom miscarried.

Does homosexuality really disturb people this much?

You've got to be kidding me.
Yes, actually it does. Some kids do get beat up just because a family member is gay, and they try to stand up for them (or not). People are mistreated for a lot of unnecessary and unfortunate reasons.

So?

Then stop the bullies and combat the violence. Why should the innocent party have to change just for the bad party? I feel bad for people like you. That's like telling a Black kid during the Civil Rights Movement to bleach his skin so that bigots don't bully him, or a woman not to be beautiful so she doesn't get raped.

Am I the only one who sees the stupidity here?
Hang on a minute, James. You originally said:
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Anyhow, this is one of those personal feelings vs. legality issues. Personally, I don't like homosexuality or support them, yet, at the same time, I don't support stopping them from doing what they want or harassing them (since they aren't harming anyone but themselves), because the one thing I hate even more than homosexuality is a police state.
All I've done is point out that others can and do get hurt because others have engaged in homosexual behaviour. Please don't think I approve of the bullying or violence in any way. It isn't right, but it happens.

Like you, James, I "don't support stopping them from doing what they want or harassing them". I disagree with your idea that this type of sinful behaviour is without farther reaching consequences.

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Re: Russia passes anti-gay law, activists detained
« Reply #65 on: June 14, 2013, 03:47:25 PM »
gay bars

I was so let down the first time I went to a gay bar. It was just so... vanilla. Really nice people running the place though.
Was that in western pa?
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