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Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« on: June 09, 2013, 12:16:18 PM »
Can you become an Orthodox Pilgrim travelling,sojourning,making the treak, embarked on the journey

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2013, 12:17:56 PM »
Why do you ask us?

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2013, 12:22:13 PM »
Because I thought there would be more people. So people with experience in monasticism and prayer. Could perhaps help answer my thread

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2013, 12:38:14 PM »
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Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?

Yes, if you are either very rich or very poor.
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2013, 12:42:31 PM »
Becoming an Orthodox Pilgrim for Jesus.

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2013, 12:46:43 PM »
Becoming an Orthodox Pilgrim for Jesus.

A rich one or a poor one?
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2013, 12:48:18 PM »
Becoming an Orthodox Pilgrim for Jesus.

A rich one or a poor one?

A faithful rich one. Pilgrimages to Sacred Shrines etc

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2013, 01:05:33 PM »
You can if you want, though you don't need to.
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2013, 01:10:04 PM »
If you want to visit monasteries or shrines, there's nothing to stop you. I would get in touch with someone at your church and see what they can recommend. Some parishes even have retreats or trips that they arrange. I hope you find something that suits you.
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2013, 01:32:04 PM »
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Yes, if you are either very rich or very poor.

WOW. That was nice.

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2013, 01:39:36 PM »
Can you become an Orthodox Pilgrim travelling,sojourning,making the treak, embarked on the journey

You don't have enough money to go to your parish church yet you want to start going on some expensive trips to faraway monasteries? Am I missing something?

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2013, 01:59:32 PM »
Not really, when I signed up to be Orthodox - I would just assume that that was it.

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2013, 02:01:36 PM »
Can you become an Orthodox Pilgrim travelling,sojourning,making the treak, embarked on the journey

You don't have enough money to go to your parish church yet you want to start going on some expensive trips to faraway monasteries? Am I missing something?

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2013, 02:28:53 PM »

What exactly are you asking?

Can it be done?  Yes. Asterisktos did have a valid point.

Spending weeks going from one place to another, means you are either rich enough that you are not tied down by work and responsibilities, or poor enough where you don't have to worry about work or responsibilities.

There is a middle ground. You could be a weekend pilgrim. Travel to nearby monasteries and holy sites on the weekends.

It you truly have the need, you will find a way.

May God help you on your journey.
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2013, 03:14:54 PM »
You can. Of course there are lots of better uses for your money but yes, you can do that.

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2013, 10:19:40 AM »
I'm pretty sure a very long beard is mandatory.  Its in the canons, I think.
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2013, 02:03:54 PM »
Can you become an Orthodox Pilgrim travelling,sojourning,making the treak, embarked on the journey

You don't have enough money to go to your parish church yet you want to start going on some expensive trips to faraway monasteries? Am I missing something?

Nope.
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2013, 02:09:05 PM »

What exactly are you asking?

Can it be done?  Yes. Asterisktos did have a valid point.

Spending weeks going from one place to another, means you are either rich enough that you are not tied down by work and responsibilities, or poor enough where you don't have to worry about work or responsibilities.

There is a middle ground. You could be a weekend pilgrim. Travel to nearby monasteries and holy sites on the weekends.

It you truly have the need, you will find a way.

May God help you on your journey.


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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2013, 09:14:11 PM »
There is a Catholic deacon doing this and has been doing so for years now, Pilgrim George.  He is poor.  His homebase is Holy Trinity Byzantine Catholic Monastery in Butler, PA where he stays in the winter.  Otherwise he is walking from shrine to shrine.

On facebook you can see his group under Pilgrim for Christ.
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2013, 03:59:49 PM »
You can if you want, though you don't need to.

Why not though? I want to experience the The Pilgrim and the Jesus Prayer[/u].

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2013, 04:14:04 PM »
You can if you want, though you don't need to.

Why not though? I want to experience the The Pilgrim and the Jesus Prayer[/u].

Do you mean something along the lines of The Way of A Pilgrim? You can do that if you wish--if you think it a good pursuit. But fwiw, a different approach might be the Way of the Ascetics, which for most of us is probably more suited to what we can handle (financially, spiritually, and otherwise). Also, another document worth taking into consideration: St. Gregory of Nyssa - On Pilgrimages
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2013, 05:52:13 PM »
You can if you want, though you don't need to.

Why not though? I want to experience the The Pilgrim and the Jesus Prayer[/u].

Do you mean something along the lines of The Way of A Pilgrim? You can do that if you wish--if you think it a good pursuit. But fwiw, a different approach might be the Way of the Ascetics, which for most of us is probably more suited to what we can handle (financially, spiritually, and otherwise). Also, another document worth taking into consideration: St. Gregory of Nyssa - On Pilgrimages

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2013, 08:54:24 PM »
I'll try to explain what I'm getting at.  I read The Pilgrim and his way ... I want to be become a pilgrim with the Jesus prayer. And look forward to a wonderful journey along the path given to us.

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2013, 11:59:26 PM »
I'll try to explain what I'm getting at.  I read The Pilgrim and his way ... I want to be become a pilgrim with the Jesus prayer. And look forward to a wonderful journey along the path given to us.

Seems mighty odd that someone who, for whatever reasons, doesn't go to church, wants to become a pilgrim ....
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2013, 11:21:26 AM »
I'll try to explain what I'm getting at.  I read The Pilgrim and his way ... I want to be become a pilgrim with the Jesus prayer. And look forward to a wonderful journey along the path given to us.

Seems mighty odd that someone who, for whatever reasons, doesn't go to church, wants to become a pilgrim ....

We don't have an Orthodox church in our town. You have to have a car and car insurance and gas money to commute back and forth to Ft. Worth
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2013, 12:12:51 PM »
You can if you want, though you don't need to.

Why not though? I want to experience the The Pilgrim and the Jesus Prayer[/u].

Do you mean something along the lines of The Way of A Pilgrim? You can do that if you wish--if you think it a good pursuit. But fwiw, a different approach might be the Way of the Ascetics, which for most of us is probably more suited to what we can handle (financially, spiritually, and otherwise). Also, another document worth taking into consideration: St. Gregory of Nyssa - On Pilgrimages

Yes, my idea is something like that. The Pilgrim and the Jesus prayer - following my path.

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2013, 10:52:28 PM »
You can if you want, though you don't need to.

Why not though? I want to experience the The Pilgrim and the Jesus Prayer[/u].

Do you mean something along the lines of The Way of A Pilgrim? You can do that if you wish--if you think it a good pursuit. But fwiw, a different approach might be the Way of the Ascetics, which for most of us is probably more suited to what we can handle (financially, spiritually, and otherwise). Also, another document worth taking into consideration: St. Gregory of Nyssa - On Pilgrimages

Yes, my idea is something like that. The Pilgrim and the Jesus prayer - following my path.

Still don't make sense.  ???
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2013, 01:39:46 PM »
You can if you want, though you don't need to.

Why not though? I want to experience the The Pilgrim and the Jesus Prayer[/u].

Do you mean something along the lines of The Way of A Pilgrim? You can do that if you wish--if you think it a good pursuit. But fwiw, a different approach might be the Way of the Ascetics, which for most of us is probably more suited to what we can handle (financially, spiritually, and otherwise). Also, another document worth taking into consideration: St. Gregory of Nyssa - On Pilgrimages

Yes, my idea is something like that. The Pilgrim and the Jesus prayer - following my path.

Still don't make sense.  ???


I don't know what you're talking about either.

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2013, 01:44:32 PM »
I'll try to explain what I'm getting at.  I read The Pilgrim and his way ... I want to be become a pilgrim with the Jesus prayer. And look forward to a wonderful journey along the path given to us.

Seems mighty odd that someone who, for whatever reasons, doesn't go to church, wants to become a pilgrim ....


Its fairly easy to get out and make the journey to a church.

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2013, 08:06:59 PM »
I'll try to explain what I'm getting at.  I read The Pilgrim and his way ... I want to be become a pilgrim with the Jesus prayer. And look forward to a wonderful journey along the path given to us.

Seems mighty odd that someone who, for whatever reasons, doesn't go to church, wants to become a pilgrim ....


Its fairly easy to get out and make the journey to a church.

So what's stopping you? You say you can't make it to church, but you're eager to go on a grand pilgrimage? That's what doesn't make sense.  ???
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« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2013, 08:12:44 PM »
I'll try to explain what I'm getting at.  I read The Pilgrim and his way ... I want to be become a pilgrim with the Jesus prayer. And look forward to a wonderful journey along the path given to us.

Seems mighty odd that someone who, for whatever reasons, doesn't go to church, wants to become a pilgrim ....


Its fairly easy to get out and make the journey to a church.

So what's stopping you? You say you can't make it to church, but you're eager to go on a grand pilgrimage? That's what doesn't make sense.  ???

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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2013, 08:15:21 PM »
I'll try to explain what I'm getting at.  I read The Pilgrim and his way ... I want to be become a pilgrim with the Jesus prayer. And look forward to a wonderful journey along the path given to us.

Seems mighty odd that someone who, for whatever reasons, doesn't go to church, wants to become a pilgrim ....


Its fairly easy to get out and make the journey to a church.

So what's stopping you? You say you can't make it to church, but you're eager to go on a grand pilgrimage? That's what doesn't make sense.  ???


That part is true ... I would have to buy a new car or truck to make the commute.

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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2013, 10:17:44 PM »
I'll try to explain what I'm getting at.  I read The Pilgrim and his way ... I want to be become a pilgrim with the Jesus prayer. And look forward to a wonderful journey along the path given to us.

Seems mighty odd that someone who, for whatever reasons, doesn't go to church, wants to become a pilgrim ....


Its fairly easy to get out and make the journey to a church.

So what's stopping you? You say you can't make it to church, but you're eager to go on a grand pilgrimage? That's what doesn't make sense.  ???


That part is true ... I would have to buy a new car or truck to make the commute.

Pilgrim George does it on foot.
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2013, 10:35:10 PM »
I'll try to explain what I'm getting at.  I read The Pilgrim and his way ... I want to be become a pilgrim with the Jesus prayer. And look forward to a wonderful journey along the path given to us.

Seems mighty odd that someone who, for whatever reasons, doesn't go to church, wants to become a pilgrim ....


Its fairly easy to get out and make the journey to a church.

So what's stopping you? You say you can't make it to church, but you're eager to go on a grand pilgrimage? That's what doesn't make sense.  ???
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Re: Can I become an Orthodox Pilgrim?
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2013, 07:16:41 AM »
I'll try to explain what I'm getting at.  I read The Pilgrim and his way ... I want to be become a pilgrim with the Jesus prayer. And look forward to a wonderful journey along the path given to us.

Seems mighty odd that someone who, for whatever reasons, doesn't go to church, wants to become a pilgrim ....


Its fairly easy to get out and make the journey to a church.

So what's stopping you? You say you can't make it to church, but you're eager to go on a grand pilgrimage? That's what doesn't make sense.  ???
Pretty sure WPM lives on a different floor... Don't know if many realize that.

So I'm not the only one.