The Fifth Ecumenical Council condemned the belief that all will be saved. One can hope that all shall be saved, though.
No. Just no.
"No" what? No, the Fifth Ecumenical Council said no such thing? Or no, the Fifth Ecumenical Council was wrong?
But in answer to the OP, it is a heresy to believe that all will be saved. We don't know who will be saved in the end and who won't, except for the relatively small number of saints who have been revealed to the Church. We also know that those who die outside the Church won't be saved immediately, i.e. their souls can't go to Paradise before the Last Judgment, though we don't know how they will be judged then. Faith can only cover certainties. As Cyrillic notes, however, we can certainly hope that all will be saved in the end, since hope covers that which we are not certain about.
No, the Fifth Ecumenical Council said no such thing. We've been over this a thousand times on the forum.
From the Council:
If anyone says or thinks that the punishment of demons and of impious men is only temporary, and will one day have an end, and that a restoration (apokatastasis ) will take place of demons and of impious men, let him be anathema. (one of the anathemas against Origen)
Thanks, LBK. It looks like you're wrong, JamesRottnek.
What sola / literalist are folks around here again?
Verse proofing odox style.
OK then, Orthonorm, what's the true meaning of this statement of anathema?
What is truth?
Really, if you think such subjects which people continue to do research on are so definitive (which I know you do given your take on nearly everything else) as to find the answer in a sentence or someone offering a sentence explanation, then your reductionism is greater than I thought.
There is a TON of context here, you could write books on it. People have.
Like I said, don't harsh on the "sola" and "fundies" if you approach is pretty much the same.
We could bring up first of all that this is in light of what the members of this council thought Origin's understanding was on apokatastasis, which seems doubtful they could have known as he seems conflicted or how I tend to read him, was a productive thinker with too much brain power and writing surface doing speculative work which got twisted by his "followers".
So, you have more than a few years between Origen and this council. And it is clear that apokatastasis from the writing of the NT to this council went through more than a few twists and turns, beginning to be a rather broad term and gradually made more precise, thus the precision throwing off the possible accuracy of reading what was written earlier.
So whose apokatastasis is being condemned here?
Given the surrounding context it is the apokatastasis of how the council understood Origen (which was a misunderstanding to be sure, but is of little matter here, since they condemned something nevertheless).
Then you have to ask what does the OP mean by universalism
and is that universalism the same as the understanding of apokatastasis condemned in this text.
There are reasons people disagree here about this and again why people continue to research the matter.
To brush that off as a matter of simple fact smacks of solafundie reductionism.
Again, I really don't have a problem with this part, it is more the lack of perfect geometry in the resurrection I have a hard time swallowing.
In short, my point goes to your method not your conclusions. You are sometimes incorrect in the latter but often in the former.
If the OP wants an overview how members of the board understand this topic without one off quotes, I would suggest using the following google search:https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aorthodoxchristianity.net+apokatastasis
EDIT: To the OP, google for whatever reasons indexes not infrequently the "mobile" version of this forum before the same content in the format you are likely more used to. If you happen to see what looks like a "simpler" and less robust format, you stumbled across the mobile version of that content.
An example is this:http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php?topic=14442.5;wap2
To "fix" the URL, just delete the ;wapNUMBERhttp://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php?topic=14442.5