I hope that you will be open to the Coptic Orthodox Church, not merely because you love a man who is Coptic, but because you really believe that the Jesus is our Lord, God, and Savior, and that He established our Holy Faith to share His Sacred Body and Blood in the Holy Eucharist.
If you mention that you are only converting in order to get married, that will upset a lot of people.
Ask the Priest to help instruct you, but only accept Baptism if you truly believe.
Please forgive me, I apologize if my tone may be misunderstood; but this quote above raises a very serious question for me.
I'm not directing this toward the original poster, but perhaps to someone more advanced who could help me understand better.
There is an article I just read today about "Worshiping God in Spirit and Truth" that causes me some concern.http://www.pravmir.com/worshiping-god-in-spirit-and-truth/
I have attended both Orthodox and Roman Catholic services, and even though I am not Orthodox yet,
I cross myself the Orthodox Way at BOTH services, even when going up for Catholic Communion.
I had a Catholic Priest tell me it was okay to do this, and they even approach me and offer me Catholic Communion
KNOWING that I am going to Cross Myself the Orthodox Way, in the Catholic Church, in front of everyone.
I will explain that I was raised Roman Catholic, I made my first communion at age 7, and it was all forced on me.
When I started attending the Orthodox Church, the right to left way of crossing oneself seemed more natural to me.
So, I always do it that way, even when I'm with Roman Catholics who all cross themselves from left to right.
I will admit that I have NEVER seen anyone cross themselves the Roman Catholic Way in the Orthodox Church,
however, I have witnessed others crossing themselves the Orthodox Way in the Catholic Church on occasion, also.
Internally, I feel so strongly about crossing myself the Orthodox Way, that I'm incapable of doing it the Catholic Way anymore.
If I were to ever go up for Catholic Communion and cross myself the Catholic Way, that would be an extreme act of hypocrisy
on my part, because I would be doing it only out of intimidation for how it "looks", or out of "fear"; instead of any kind of sincerity.
I'm not necessarily interested in the technical issues about Orthodox receiving Catholic Communion, here.
I have the desire to become Orthodox eventually, but it hasn't happened yet.
When I attend Orthodox services, the Roman Catholic services become much more interesting to me.
So, I either go to both of them, or neither of them, at the current moment.
But, since I made my Catholic Communion at age 7, I feel entitled to receive Catholic Communion,
until I actually become Orthodox; and since they freely offer it to me,
even though I already told several Catholic Priests that I plan to become Orthodox,
and I openly cross myself the Orthodox Way; and they are okay with it, I still accept Catholic Communion when I go there.
My only point here, is that if a Catholic Priest refused me communion, or told me I had to cross myself the Catholic Way;
then I would rather not receive Catholic Communion, instead of crossing myself the Catholic Way.
But, instead they freely offer it to me, and even say it is okay to cross myself the Orthodox Way, so I still accept it.
What I am trying to do here, is to address the issue of Crossing Myself the Orthodox Way in a Catholic Church;
and the way I would feel if someone insisted I must cross myself the Catholic Way, because "that will upset a lot of people".
So, now we have someone converting in order to get married and be accepted into an Orthodox Family;
and then someone says:
"If you mention that you are only converting in order to get married, that will upset a lot of people."
So, now it is not enough to merely "Convert" to try and please your future husband and his family;
but now you have to take it to the next level.
Not to say this would happen, but if this engagement broke up and this person met a protestant,
do you really think they would still go through with the conversion and become Orthodox to marry a protestant?
Now please, I mean this as a very serious question, not as a joke.
If you are converting just to please an Orthodox Family, why isn't that enough?
You could just refuse to convert, and have a divided household.
Why the necessity to say something that is not true, because "that will upset a lot of people"?
Isn't it worse to go through all of this pretending; than to be honest about why you are converting?
And, please, I'm not addressing the sincerity of the first poster here.
I'm saying, why the intimidation?
Isn't it enough to convert to be accepted into a family?
Can't the faith part come later?
Roman Catholics make communion at 7, and confirmation at 13; and yet even the confirmation is forced.
If you are from a strong Roman Catholic family, you do not have a choice to leave until you are 18.
I see Orthodox giving Communion to infants.
Do you not primarily become Orthodox because your family is Orthodox?
Why do you also have to fake some kind of sincerity, just because you were not "born" into an Orthodox family?
Honestly, I only say this because if a protestant wanted to convert to RC to marry a Catholic,
the issue I would have is "why do you want to do that to yourself"? Why not stay protestant?
I could never question their sincerity; because I do not know any "sincere" Roman Catholics.
I only know "forced" Roman Catholics, and the ones who went to Parochial Catholic Schools
seem much less enthused about being Catholic, than the ones who escaped to Public School.
The alternative is to require all Orthodox to become a certain age, before ANY of them get baptized.
Then, you can start questioning converts sincerity.
So my issue is, why is it that if you come from an Orthodox family,
you are seemingly exempted from any sincerity requirements;
but if you are a protestant, it is not enough to just convert to become accepted;
but now you MUST prove that you are "sincere" as well;
or you will "upset a lot of people"?
How sincere are these "people" being about their Christianity, to get "upset" about someone's motives for converting?
Especially when the only main reason "they" are Orthodox is because they were born into it?
I'm not denying the reality that this may be true.
Maybe it is not enough to convert, but you also have to prove you are "sincere" about it as well.
But, my concern is: "How is that Christian?"
According to this article about "Worshiping in Spirit and Truth"
it would seem to be better to be honest about converting because you want to get married?
I will cross-reference this with another article from http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/46642.htmTrue worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth [Jn 4:23].
True worshipers worship in Truth. We can be bad, we can be much more sinful than the Samaritan woman, but we cannot be liars, we should not be liars. God is capable of saving every person, but He is powerless before our lies, when we become enmeshed in lies, when we lie before ourselves, lie before people, lie before God. Christ can save the repentant sinner, but He cannot help the sham righteous person, as we like to represent ourselves.
Now, when people are exhausted by spiritual thirst, sick and poisoned by the rubbish of toxic atheistic teachings, modern Samaritans and pagans seek the true water of life in order to revive their dying spirits and to strengthen their weakened bodies, everyone needs to find within themselves the truthfulness and strength to see themselves without embellishment and lies. For only then can the Lord—the Truth, Righteousness, and Life—respond to our bitter truth and teach us to worship Him in spirit and truth.
According to this, isn't it better to be honest about why you want to convert,
even it is "just for marriage"; than to be forced to take it to the next level, so as "not to upset people"?
Again, I'm not denying that this might be true, and that people might be upset with someone converting just for marriage.
But, why should your motive for converting have to respond to this kind of intimidation?
Did the Samaritan Woman in the article need to face intimidation before being "allowed" to accept Christ
or was it simply enough for her to believe?
I'm just not sure why the "fear of upsetting people" should be the motive for anything to do with the church
outside of a sincere desire to join it?
How are you "Worshiping in Spirit and Truth" if your main motive is to avoid "upsetting people"?
I guess I'm just troubled because the first two posts on this thread were honest, and the rest seems questionable.
And I had just finished reading this article which I will quote again:True worshipers worship in Truth. We can be bad, we can be much more sinful than the Samaritan woman, but we cannot be liars, we should not be liars. God is capable of saving every person, but He is powerless before our lies, when we become enmeshed in lies, when we lie before ourselves, lie before people, lie before God. Christ can save the repentant sinner, but He cannot help the sham righteous person, as we like to represent ourselves.
These two points are contradictory.
Either it is better to just admit you want to convert to be married and leave it at that;
and it is unacceptable for these people to become upset
or this article is wrong,
and being a Christian is all about intimidation and not upsetting people, rather than
"Worshiping in Spirit and Truth".
Why defend this idea of people being upset and intimidating people into telling you what you want to hear?
I guess it would be helpful if someone could explain how to make church attendance more about Worshiping God
rather than all about being afraid of "upsetting people"?
Any assistance that could be provided in this direction would be very helpful.