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« on: May 26, 2013, 01:21:01 PM »

I didn't think it was coke that ruined your teeth, I thought it was usually meth that did that??

Don't believe the hype!

Really, how does "meth" ruin anyone's teeth?

It doesn't. You have an entire generation raised on it by now. I am sure their teeth are fine.

Now, being strung out on any drug, especially those whose fumes are inhaled and likely includes all sortsa adulterants ain't great.

And grinding your teeth for 5 years straight, probably ain't so great either. But hey, if you ever have to get to Chicago in a weekend, hard to a find a cheaper mode of transportation than walking while tweeking.

We have stinking, fuming, exploding meth labs all over the foothills where I live.
Those scum who are manufacturing meth are even being paid for their home grown meth by Muslims extremists who are waging war against Americans by engaging in this drug war against us.

The meth fumes cause a lot of people to have respiratory distress. It is time the filthy truth gets out about Meth. It is destroying a lot of lives.
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2013, 02:01:59 PM »

Interesting. Cocaine is sort of the cash-crop drug where I live.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2013, 02:03:41 PM »

I don't know about the Muslim bit, but we have a meth problem where I live and the surrounding areas too - only second to prescription drug abuse (worst county in Ohio for prescription drug abuse, and one of the worst in the county AFAIK, sadly).

I also don't know about the connection between meth abuse and teeth decay, but most meth addicts tend to lose their teeth. I know of a couple people that ruined their teeth in their late teens during hardcore meth addiction, and now use dentures or have screwed up teeth.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2013, 02:30:38 PM »

I didn't think it was coke that ruined your teeth, I thought it was usually meth that did that??

Don't believe the hype!

Really, how does "meth" ruin anyone's teeth?

It doesn't. You have an entire generation raised on it by now. I am sure their teeth are fine.

Now, being strung out on any drug, especially those whose fumes are inhaled and likely includes all sortsa adulterants ain't great.

And grinding your teeth for 5 years straight, probably ain't so great either. But hey, if you ever have to get to Chicago in a weekend, hard to a find a cheaper mode of transportation than walking while tweeking.

We have stinking, fuming, exploding meth labs all over the foothills where I live.
Those scum who are manufacturing meth are even being paid for their home grown meth by Muslims extremists who are waging war against Americans by engaging in this drug war against us.

The meth fumes cause a lot of people to have respiratory distress. It is time the filthy truth gets out about Meth. It is destroying a lot of lives.

You obviously know nothing about "meth", who does most of the manufacturing here in the US, how that has changed over the last 50 years or so, or pretty much anything.

Enjoy. Muslims. Awesome.

I've been in more than a few homemade crank places and a huge facility that was the size a moderate scale factory.

The latter is the method of production which is exploding.

Was never a speed freak myself, so I've done meth only a few times (here I am talking about what you think is meth, glass, whathaveyou.) But many people have lead pretty successful and productive lives in history strung out on it.

You do realize that a lot of kids take it every morning as prescribed by their doctor?
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 02:34:18 PM »

I don't know about the Muslim bit, but we have a meth problem where I live and the surrounding areas too - only second to prescription drug abuse (worst county in Ohio for prescription drug abuse, and one of the worst in the county AFAIK, sadly).

I also don't know about the connection between meth abuse and teeth decay, but most meth addicts tend to lose their teeth. I know of a couple people that ruined their teeth in their late teens during hardcore meth addiction, and now use dentures or have screwed up teeth.

Nephi what county? I've certainly been in it.

I know people who used meth for most of their life with perfect dental health. Ever seen the mouth of a junkie? Crack head?

It ain't great.

When folks are tweaking hard on glass or whatever, sure the fumes are issue, but you have basic hygienic issues at play and the teeth grinding which is incredible. Having only smoked it a few time (less than a dozen) it is rather incredible.

Taking it in pill form mitigates a lot of the above.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 02:35:33 PM »

Interesting. Cocaine is sort of the cash-crop drug where I live.

No it ain't.

Cocaine ain't grown here. Stop please.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2013, 02:35:53 PM »

Oh America, just legalise marijuana and be done with it. At least there are no exploding drug labs where I live.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 02:37:30 PM »

Is it bad that when I think of a meth factory, I cannot shake the image of a couple of not-too-bright rednecks in a run down RV getting blown to bits?
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 02:38:39 PM »

Nephi what county? I've certainly been in it.

Scioto County. It also apparently has the highest rate in Ohio of prescription drug deaths from overdosing, according to the headlines of the recent paper.
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2013, 02:40:52 PM »

Interesting. Cocaine is sort of the cash-crop drug where I live.

No it ain't.

Cocaine ain't grown here. Stop please.

And since the relationship between coke and heroin are pretty tight, I would say mexican tar is killing whatever coke is being brought through Mexico to here.

A by product of the war in Afganistan. Heroin shot up through the roof in price. Coke dropped.

Mexicans cultivated the poppy and in a few later, you have heroin at all time lows. Which is good for violent crime. When the drug on the street is coke, violent crime soars, when it is heroin, it drops.

Having to escort a drug addict or two or a dozen out of my house, junkies are so much easier to deal with.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2013, 02:41:25 PM »

Is it bad that when I think of a meth factory, I cannot shake the image of a couple of not-too-bright rednecks in a run down RV getting blown to bits?

Sorry holmes, the Esses have that on lock down now.
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2013, 02:41:40 PM »

Oh America, just legalise marijuana and be done with it. At least there are no exploding drug labs where I live.

I second this

If everyone were smoking marijuana, then we wouldn't have to worry about exploding meth factories because they'd be too stoned to build one.

How about Ectasy? Do you care to weigh in on this one Jason? This one in particular has interested me from time to time.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2013, 02:43:10 PM »

Heroin shot up

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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2013, 02:44:14 PM »

Nephi what county? I've certainly been in it.

Scioto County. It also apparently has the highest rate in Ohio of prescription drug deaths from overdosing, according to the headlines of the recent paper.

I wasn't sure if you were going to say Adams or Scioto. There is some really scandalous stuff going on in that area and right across the river.

Watch for KY to start getting heat from the feds for their "diet" centers which basically places you show up get weighed in and get a script for speed for three months.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2013, 02:49:18 PM »

How about Ectasy? Do you care to weigh in on this one Jason? This one in particular has interested me from time to time.

Much like LSD most people ain't get real X or they are getting really adulterated stuff. X, a lot of time is just some speed of some sort. That is all.

I was doing X before it became so popular, so it wasn't a big deal to get decent stuff. Once it became the club drug of choice, that changed the game. Nothing that great. Dropped it a few times. Not my thing.

Of all the drugs I would council folks never to do, it would be all the psychotropics. Really Hollywood aside, one bad experience with the stuff can open up stuff in your brain you don't want to have to deal with for years later.
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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2013, 02:52:40 PM »

Oh America, just legalise marijuana and be done with it. At least there are no exploding drug labs where I live.

I second this

If everyone were smoking marijuana, then we wouldn't have to worry about exploding meth factories because they'd be too stoned to build one.

How about Ectasy? Do you care to weigh in on this one Jason? This one in particular has interested me from time to time.

Pot is a more significant drug than people make it out to be. And sorry Cyrillic, you ain't never seen pot. What passes for weed in Europe, including your beloved Amsterdam doesn't hold a candle to what I can get from some kid in KY who is a hobbiest pot grower.

Not saying it should be illegal, but I've seen plenty of people who have more than a mild problem with the stuff.

Again, not my thing.
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2013, 02:55:22 PM »

I wasn't sure if you were going to say Adams or Scioto. There is some really scandalous stuff going on in that area and right across the river.

Watch for KY to start getting heat from the feds for their "diet" centers which basically places you show up get weighed in and get a script for speed for three months.

In Scioto, we've had most of our pill mills (i.e. clinics that would sell prescriptions) shut down due to the state finally getting involved. Now most of the drugs come from Michigan or Florida.

One of those diet centers in Greenup County is right along the highway (23). I've known people to do that too, but it's far less common.

Interestingly my area is evidence against legalization completely solving the drug-crime problem, because here I'm not afraid of the dealers. It's the drug-desperate junkie that has no money I'm threatened by, regardless of whether they can fill their fix at a neighbor's house or at Walmart.
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2013, 02:58:07 PM »

Just occassional marijuana once in a while.  Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2013, 03:01:34 PM »

I wasn't sure if you were going to say Adams or Scioto. There is some really scandalous stuff going on in that area and right across the river.

Watch for KY to start getting heat from the feds for their "diet" centers which basically places you show up get weighed in and get a script for speed for three months.

In Scioto, we've had most of our pill mills (i.e. clinics that would sell prescriptions) shut down due to the state finally getting involved. Now most of the drugs come from Michigan or Florida.

One of those diet centers in Greenup County is right along the highway (23). I've known people to do that too, but it's far less common.

Interestingly my area is evidence against legalization completely solving the drug-crime problem, because here I'm not afraid of the dealers. It's the drug-desperate junkie that has no money I'm threatened by, regardless of whether they can fill their fix at a neighbor's house or at Walmart.

I have a buddy who has a farm up that way, so I've heard about the stuff being shut down.

In theory, decriminalizing drug abuse (not necessarily dealing) and treating it like the health problem it is would go a long way to mitigate the "dangerous" addict.

I dunno. It is much more complicated than any on either side make it out to be. One thing I know, is that these folks don't belong in the State facilities they find themselves in.
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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2013, 03:06:31 PM »

because here I'm not afraid of the dealers. It's the drug-desperate junkie that has no money I'm threatened by, regardless of whether they can fill their fix at a neighbor's house or at Walmart.

Oh, this points out the one size fits all thing doesn't work.

In the city, everyone in the game sucks.

In the country, you might not think the dealer ain't a problem, and he likely ain't, till you get on his radar or he branches out.

I grew up in the hood and then in the sticks. Not far from my backyard was a guy running crank, whores, guns, etc. for the Hell's Angels. It was a bit of a problem, especially if you got on their radar.

A kid I went to school with had an uncle tortured to death (they found his testicles in his stomach) in an abandoned van. He was a pilot and the theory of those involved was that he used to run for the Angel's to make their connect in CA / SA and he decided he wanted out.

He wasn't into them.
He wasn't snitching.
He just wanted to stop.

So he had body parts cut off, was burned, cut, etc. Over the course of 12-14 hours.
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2013, 03:18:08 PM »

Why does everybody have wild and radical story about drug use? Its probably hyped-up and overblown.
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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2013, 03:20:37 PM »

Oh, this points out the one size fits all thing doesn't work.

In the city, everyone in the game sucks.

In the country, you might not think the dealer ain't a problem, and he likely ain't, till you get on his radar or he branches out.

I grew up in the hood and then in the sticks. Not far from my backyard was a guy running crank, whores, guns, etc. for the Hell's Angels. It was a bit of a problem, especially if you got on their radar.

A kid I went to school with had an uncle tortured to death (they found his testicles in his stomach) in an abandoned van. He was a pilot and the theory of those involved was that he used to run for the Angel's to make their connect in CA / SA and he decided he wanted out.

He wasn't into them.
He wasn't snitching.
He just wanted to stop.

So he had body parts cut off, was burned, cut, etc. Over the course of 12-14 hours.

You're right. There is no universal drug environment. Here, I think it's because prescription drugs are so spread out amongst so many people. You can have a grandmother selling prescription drugs out of her retirement home. So it's less likely to get centralized into violent gangs. Meth is like this too, with people (i.e. families) just making it in their own homes.

It seems the closer one gets to Huntington you see more of those sorts of gangs pop up. I know of someone indirectly who was murdered by a paranoid gang leader who thought he would get snitched on. There's even a tv show episode on it. Although there are gangs here in Scioto too, but generally they come out of Cleveland or Detroit and are bringing heroin and cocaine into the area.
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2013, 03:20:55 PM »

I for one have never done drugs...except for that time I accidently ate all of my grandmother's pills as a child and had to get my stomach pumped because I thought they were candy.
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« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2013, 03:24:07 PM »

I for one have never done drugs...except for that time I accidently ate all of my grandmother's pills as a child and had to get my stomach pumped because I thought they were candy.

Good. Keep it that way.
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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2013, 03:25:24 PM »

Why does everybody have wild and radical story about drug use? Its probably hyped-up and overblown.

Everybody doesn't.

Tell that to my buddy. His uncle's story was on America's most wanted.
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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2013, 04:57:09 PM »

I for one have never done drugs...except for that time I accidently ate all of my grandmother's pills as a child and had to get my stomach pumped because I thought they were candy.

Good. Keep it that way.

How come? You just admitted to it and you seem like a cool guy.
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2013, 05:09:58 PM »

Pot is a more significant drug than people make it out to be. And sorry Cyrillic, you ain't never seen pot. What passes for weed in Europe, including your beloved Amsterdam doesn't hold a candle to what I can get from some kid in KY who is a hobbiest pot grower.

That's one of the points of legalization. More room for milder options.
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2013, 06:24:43 PM »

Pot is a more significant drug than people make it out to be. And sorry Cyrillic, you ain't never seen pot. What passes for weed in Europe, including your beloved Amsterdam doesn't hold a candle to what I can get from some kid in KY who is a hobbiest pot grower.

That's one of the points of legalization. More room for milder options.

Except you have "prescription pot" now and we get a lot of it coming this way to be sold illegally. It ain't mild by a long shot.

Americans due to the drug war have long grown accustomed to pot that looks like a sentient being from another universe.
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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2013, 06:28:03 PM »

I for one have never done drugs...except for that time I accidently ate all of my grandmother's pills as a child and had to get my stomach pumped because I thought they were candy.

Good. Keep it that way.

How come? You just admitted to it and you seem like a cool guy.

Drugs suck for the most part and liquor if you can drink a few gallons of it a day. But sometimes you have to go through hell to figure that out.

Well adjusted folks could probably use drugs moderately and responsibly, the thing is most well adjusted folks don't want to get jacked on coke, crank, etc.

Catch-22.

You ain't well-adjusted. Don't do drugs.
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There are lots of things you can do to feel good, which don't involve shooting up, getting arrested or any of the other crap that comes with serious drugs. I can't judge others but it just seems like a waste of time. Go ride a bike.
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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2013, 09:38:03 PM »

Addictive tendencies are pretty common in my family...dad was addicted to drugs, paternal grandfather an ex-alcoholic and addicted to Vicodin, maternal grandmother an alcoholic, aunt a meth addict, other aunt an alcoholic, and another aunt a heroin addict. And I'm addicted to masturbation.
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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2013, 09:41:21 PM »

Who doesn't have an addiction?
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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2013, 09:50:09 PM »

Who doesn't have an addiction?

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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2013, 09:50:32 PM »

Who doesn't have an addiction?

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What kind of pizza rolls?
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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2013, 09:52:03 PM »

All of the drugs mentioned are destroying this country regardless of the lies people spread.  If I were looking at drug use, Meth is one of the last places I would visit.  If people knew half the crap put into the production of drugs they would never start.  Ignorance is rampant.  But don't take my word for it, ask the snow bugs.
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Who doesn't have an addiction?
Lots of people.
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« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2013, 09:54:33 PM »

I for one have never done drugs...except for that time I accidently ate all of my grandmother's pills as a child and had to get my stomach pumped because I thought they were candy.

Good. Keep it that way.

How come? You just admitted to it and you seem like a cool guy.
Maybe you missed the part where he almost died.
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« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2013, 10:52:38 PM »

Who doesn't have an addiction?
Lots of people.
You're right, I am throwing that word around too loosely here and undervaluing real addictions.
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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2013, 11:20:34 PM »

And I'm addicted to masturbation.

Nonsense.
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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2013, 12:30:20 AM »

Oh America, just legalise marijuana and be done with it. At least there are no exploding drug labs where I live.

I may or may not know five people in a small town who make meth...and if I do, I can guarantee you that none of their production sites have ever exploded.
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« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2013, 12:33:09 AM »

Americans due to the drug war have long grown accustomed to pot that looks like a sentient being from another universe.

So the situation is basically like back in the good old days of alcohol prohibition.
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« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2013, 12:59:45 AM »

Oh America, just legalise marijuana and be done with it. At least there are no exploding drug labs where I live.

I may or may not know five people in a small town who make meth...and if I do, I can guarantee you that none of their production sites have ever exploded.

I know people who were test pilots on brand new planes.  Just because they didn't crash and burn doesn't mean it doesn't happen.  You really shouldn’t demoralize the dangers.  It happens more often than you think.  And if you know they are doing this and say nothing, you just became an accomplice to a crime.  Congratulations.  And let’s not forget several of these scumbag meatballs booby trap their labs to kill people when they come in. Besides, they don't have to explode to be extremely dangerous.  These sites are considered HazMat and a special team has to dispose of them properly.  Any residence which ever had a Meth lab MUST have this information revealed prior to any future purchase, because of the dangers.  The majority of Meth is made within the nations borders.  Ever hear of Meth Alley?  Folks in MO have.
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« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2013, 01:03:20 AM »

Oh America, just legalise marijuana and be done with it. At least there are no exploding drug labs where I live.

I may or may not know five people in a small town who make meth...and if I do, I can guarantee you that none of their production sites have ever exploded.

I know people who were test pilots on brand new planes.  Just because they didn't crash and burn doesn't mean it doesn't happen.  You really shouldn’t demoralized the dangers.  It happens more often than you think.  And if you know they are doing this and say nothing, you just became an accomplice to a crime.  Congratulations.  And lets not forget several of these scumbag meatballs booby trap their labs to kill people when they come in.  Real nice folks you keep company with.

He might hang with winebibbers as well.

Really bathtub meth ain't making up much of the market share anymore.

Large scale production run by cartels within our borders is how I understand you getting most of the supply now.

But that won't stop some idiot from trying to do it at home. Really, if they just did a little reading it would make the whole thing a lot safer.

And the former moonshiners still are in it as well, but again, market share ain't what it used to be. At least we haven't outsourced these jobs yet.
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« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2013, 01:23:27 AM »

All of orthonorm's testimonials are giving me a pre-conversion high.
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« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2013, 01:43:03 AM »

A meth house adjacent to a community college exploded while I was teaching. I was sick for two week with dizziness and bronchial asthma from all the toxic fumes generated in that explosion.

We have had at least two meth houses explode only a block away from my house. The police tapped the roads off and we had to take a detour. We have also heard explosions coming from the valley.

Both the LAFP and LAPD have informed us that there are a lot of home grown meth labs in the foothills where we live, and that if we smell any fumes to let them know as it means that a house may explode.

On the news recently, there was a house for sale, cheap.
A couple bought the house through the VA, did not ask for a meth inspection.
They got a real lemon. It made them very ill. They could not get a refund. It was a total loss.
An inspection revealed that the house was unsafe as it was filled with dangerous toxic levels of meth chemicals. The house had to be torn down, leveled, and the area detoxified.
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