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Offline Ashman618

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Physical corruption
« on: May 25, 2013, 02:43:18 PM »
Is there anyone who ever spoke of the physical corruption of the creation being the result of the crack in the noetic/angelic realm?

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Re: Physical corruption
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2013, 04:02:15 PM »
Our Ethiopian Orthodox posters can tell you about the Book of Enoch which espouses such a view.
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Re: Physical corruption
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 09:49:38 AM »
The crack in the angelic realm caused a crack in our own spirituality which is why God allows physical corruption (to help wake us up in regards to our spiritual depravation). In the age to come, physical corruption will not be possible as all will receive a new and perfect body, yet, you would not want to "freeze" like that if you were a sinner because that means you will be forever lost within a dark spirituality.

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Re: Physical corruption
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2013, 11:40:18 AM »
It would seem, although appearances can deceive, that physical corruption is pre human.... So would we say physical corruption is a Benefit for animal, insect,plant life as well?

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Re: Physical corruption
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 01:02:45 PM »
It would seem, although appearances can deceive, that physical corruption is pre human.... So would we say physical corruption is a Benefit for animal, insect,plant life as well?

Physical corruption is not pre-human because only humans are physical (with spiritual capacity). Spiritual corruption is pre-human because of the fallen angels who are spirits. It's not of benefit to the animal life, etc., to experience physical corruption; it's actually of benefit to us to see how the rest of creation suffers, so that we repent. God allows the rest of creation to co-suffer with us for our benefit (the servant suffers together with the master).

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Re: Physical corruption
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2013, 02:24:00 PM »
That is helpful I kinda get that, so then pre-human animals were not born with gimpy legs and trees had no withered leaves. Or am I mistaken by what physical corruption is

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Re: Physical corruption
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2013, 10:18:45 PM »
That is helpful I kinda get that, so then pre-human animals were not born with gimpy legs and trees had no withered leaves. Or am I mistaken by what physical corruption is

That's what I mean by physical corruption, too: aging, malformations, illness, etc., and ultimately physical death.