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A Mason no more
« on: May 21, 2013, 12:10:43 AM »
Hello! I am Sauron. You may remember me from threads such as this one:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,42663.0.html

I am pleased to report that as of tonight, I am no longer a member of the Masonic fraternity. I signed the withdrawal papers earlier this evening.

(please feel free to move to another forum if appropriate; I chose this one since that is where the linked thread was posted)

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 01:32:57 AM »
Hello! I am Sauron. You may remember me from threads such as this one:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,42663.0.html

I am pleased to report that as of tonight, I am no longer a member of the Masonic fraternity. I signed the withdrawal papers earlier this evening.

(please feel free to move to another forum if appropriate; I chose this one since that is where the linked thread was posted)

Praise the Lord.
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Translated from the Russian by E. Kadloubovksy and G.E.H. Palmer, Faber and Faber, London, Boston, 1992 printing.

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 01:48:08 AM »
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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 02:07:03 AM »
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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 10:09:50 AM »
Welcome back Sauron

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2013, 10:36:12 AM »
Care to share what led to this decision?
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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2013, 11:01:02 AM »

I'm so happy to hear it.

Couldn't have been easy....but, you did the right thing. 

Glory be to God!

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 11:09:28 AM »
Glad to hear it.
I would be happy to agree with you, but then both of us would be wrong.

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 11:17:12 AM »
Nice. :)
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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 11:18:01 AM »
Care to share what led to this decision?

I decided that whatever my opinions were, I had to obey. Now I can commune with a clear conscience.

It was actually easier than I thought it would be. I just signed the paper and that was that. My very good friend is the current Master of the lodge, so I attended a final meeting, handed in the paperwork, and then had beer with him. I did make some very good friends and will continue to be friends with them - I just won't have any more to do with the Masonic stuff. Frankly, I had been pretty disillusioned with it for a while.

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2013, 11:25:25 AM »
I won't pressure you to say anything, but I have always wanted to know, what exactly are you doing at those meetings?
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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2013, 11:44:25 AM »
I won't pressure you to say anything, but I have always wanted to know, what exactly are you doing at those meetings?
I have a feeling you're asking something that won't be answered ;)
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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2013, 11:46:14 AM »
I won't pressure you to say anything, but I have always wanted to know, what exactly are you doing at those meetings?

The meetings are business meetings. Here is the typical order:

Open with the pledge of allegiance and a prayer. Then, introduce visitors. People give reports if any Masons or their families are in sickness and distress and in need of prayer or other assistance. Review any received correspondence and pay the bills. Heads of committees give reports about things like if repairs are needed for the building. If there is an application for new membership, vote on that. There is a report about ongoing charity projects. People raise new business to be address like "who can help mow the lodge lawn this month?" Sometimes, someone shows up to get their 25-year pin. Then, close the meeting with prayer.

Thrilling, yes?

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2013, 11:51:14 AM »
I won't pressure you to say anything, but I have always wanted to know, what exactly are you doing at those meetings?

The meetings are business meetings. Here is the typical order:

Open with the pledge of allegiance and a prayer. Then, introduce visitors. People give reports if any Masons or their families are in sickness and distress and in need of prayer or other assistance. Review any received correspondence and pay the bills. Heads of committees give reports about things like if repairs are needed for the building. If there is an application for new membership, vote on that. There is a report about ongoing charity projects. People raise new business to be address like "who can help mow the lodge lawn this month?" Sometimes, someone shows up to get their 25-year pin. Then, close the meeting with prayer.

Thrilling, yes?

Do you mean to tell me that you're basically doing paperwork? That's what all the secrecy is about?
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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2013, 11:55:03 AM »
I won't pressure you to say anything, but I have always wanted to know, what exactly are you doing at those meetings?

The meetings are business meetings. Here is the typical order:

Open with the pledge of allegiance and a prayer. Then, introduce visitors. People give reports if any Masons or their families are in sickness and distress and in need of prayer or other assistance. Review any received correspondence and pay the bills. Heads of committees give reports about things like if repairs are needed for the building. If there is an application for new membership, vote on that. There is a report about ongoing charity projects. People raise new business to be address like "who can help mow the lodge lawn this month?" Sometimes, someone shows up to get their 25-year pin. Then, close the meeting with prayer.

Thrilling, yes?

Do you mean to tell me that you're basically doing paperwork? That's what all the secrecy is about?

For the business meetings, yes. Similarly, you cannot come to the business meetings of my firm because you are curious. They are secret to you as well.

Other than the regularly scheduled business meetings, there are the degree ceremonies. The secrets of those degrees and of Masonry in general are the secret handshakes (called "grips"), passwords, steps (basically, a position of your feet on the floor) and hand gestures (called "due guards" and "signs").

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2013, 01:52:20 PM »
Christ is Risen!

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2013, 03:19:53 PM »
Hello! I am Sauron. You may remember me from threads such as this one:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,42663.0.html

AWESOME! Love it.
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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2013, 03:28:16 PM »
Hello! I am Sauron. You may remember me from threads such as this one:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,42663.0.html

AWESOME! Love it.

Just realized that we used to have a Freemason called "Sauron". Love it.
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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2013, 03:42:15 PM »
Hello! I am Sauron. You may remember me from threads such as this one:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,42663.0.html

AWESOME! Love it.

Just realized that we used to have a Freemason called "Sauron". Love it.

I was referring the tone of the post. Great stuff. Other than his politics, thoughts on relationships, worldview, well just about everything, I think Sauron is fantastic. Glad to see him posting again.

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2013, 06:49:48 PM »
Awesome!!!!!   ;D

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2013, 07:07:52 PM »
Hello! I am Sauron. You may remember me from threads such as this one:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,42663.0.html

I am pleased to report that as of tonight, I am no longer a member of the Masonic fraternity. I signed the withdrawal papers earlier this evening.

(please feel free to move to another forum if appropriate; I chose this one since that is where the linked thread was posted)

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Be safe, you know the evil, baby sacrificing, goat worshiping Masons don't just let people go! They will harass you until the end! Watch your back!  :police:

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2013, 09:28:29 PM »
Slava Bogu.

Spasi tebe Gospodi.

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2013, 09:32:58 PM »
I did make some very good friends and will continue to be friends with them - I just won't have any more to do with the Masonic stuff. Frankly, I had been pretty disillusioned with it for a while.
What were you disillusioned with?

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2013, 09:58:42 AM »
I did make some very good friends and will continue to be friends with them - I just won't have any more to do with the Masonic stuff. Frankly, I had been pretty disillusioned with it for a while.
What were you disillusioned with?

Please forgive my belated reply.

In general, the idea of Freemasonry is a pretty good. Which is, it is supposed to be an organization of good men who wish to improve themselves as citizens, husbands, and fathers. In practice, I did not see much of that. It mostly was like a social club for retirees. There's nothing wrong with a social club for retirees. It is just not what I thought Masonry would be. There was a time where Masonry was where society's leaders could gather and work for the common good. It is not that anymore. While I think it won't disappear completely, I think it will continue to dwindle in membership numbers and relevance.

I should also correct my first post in this thread. When I submitted my dimit, I thought that got me out of Masonry. I later learn that it only removed me from membership in my lodge but I was still considered a Mason. So, I submitted a letter of resignation. Effective August 28, 2013, I am no longer a Mason. I will see about posting an image of the letter accepting my resignation and discharging me from the fraternity. My lifetime membership funds have been returned to me. It's over - I'm out.

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2013, 10:12:13 AM »
They give you your membership funds back?  That is awfully nice of them...

Maybe they aren't satanists after all...  :D
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2013, 10:13:27 AM »
They give you your membership funds back?  That is awfully nice of them...

Maybe they aren't satanists after all...  :D

Hold your horses until they come to terms on his soul.
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2013, 10:19:17 AM »
They give you your membership funds back?  That is awfully nice of them...

Maybe they aren't satanists after all...  :D

I'm sure a lot of satanists are quite nice people.  The Antichrist will be amazing - benevolent, tolerant, kind, virtuous, etc.  Most of the world will love him.

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2013, 10:20:43 AM »
I am pleased to report that as of tonight, I am no longer a member of the Masonic fraternity. I signed the withdrawal papers earlier this evening.

Congratulations!  Can you share what your priest said about the subject of your masonic membership?

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2013, 11:12:19 AM »
thanks for sharing and may God bless and guide u.

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2013, 01:32:04 PM »
I am pleased to report that as of tonight, I am no longer a member of the Masonic fraternity. I signed the withdrawal papers earlier this evening.

Congratulations!  Can you share what your priest said about the subject of your masonic membership?

He asked me a few questions about it and was generally disapproving but when I asked if that would keep me from being chrismated he said, "no". In any event, I need to update him that I am out for good.

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2013, 06:34:25 PM »
I am pleased to report that as of tonight, I am no longer a member of the Masonic fraternity. I signed the withdrawal papers earlier this evening.

Congratulations!  Can you share what your priest said about the subject of your masonic membership?

He asked me a few questions about it and was generally disapproving but when I asked if that would keep me from being chrismated he said, "no". In any event, I need to update him that I am out for good.

Praise the Lord.
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Writings from the Philokalia: On Prayer of the Heart,
Translated from the Russian by E. Kadloubovksy and G.E.H. Palmer, Faber and Faber, London, Boston, 1992 printing.

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Re: A Mason no more
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2013, 07:08:14 PM »
I am pleased to report that as of tonight, I am no longer a member of the Masonic fraternity. I signed the withdrawal papers earlier this evening.

Congratulations!  Can you share what your priest said about the subject of your masonic membership?

He asked me a few questions about it and was generally disapproving but when I asked if that would keep me from being chrismated he said, "no". In any event, I need to update him that I am out for good.

Praise the Lord.

Amen to that