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« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2013, 02:11:12 PM »

I really need to know how the quoting system works, can anyone help me how to add a blue box with the quote? So i can comment beneath it without making 2 different quotes or posts

In general when handling multiple quotes, I think it is best to keep it "inline" and responding to one post per reply.

When people reply inline to multiple posts and persons in one post, I find that makes for a lot of oversight in reading on the parts of many and introduces a greater chance of broken quotes down the road if others aren't careful in replying.

Don't worry, some people still can't quote properly after 5k posts.

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« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2013, 02:17:26 PM »

The strongest arguments for atheism IMO are made by Omar Khayyam, but it looks like the new pop atheists don't have any time for poetry. (And really, who does anymore?)

Care to share?

Here you go... there are four editions to choose from.

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I think the newage crowd ruined my ability to take him seriously. Or perhaps that was someone else with a weird name.

$10 says it was Rumi, or Hafiz.
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« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2013, 02:18:51 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2013, 02:54:25 PM »

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In general when handling multiple quotes, I think it is best to keep it "inline" and responding to one post per reply.

"Testing, testing" Tongue

AHH YEAH I GOT IT. Thanks mate i owe you big times, may God bless you richly dear friend Cheesy

Any way i can remove any quoties/posts that went wrong? But i think i grasp it a bit now Tongue

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In general when handling multiple quotes, I think it is best to keep it "inline" and responding to one post per reply.
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« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2013, 04:33:22 PM »

Although I haven't become Orthodox (yet!) I am a repeat atheist-to-Catholic-to-atheist-to-Catholic-to-atheist-to ... (you get the point!  Grin ) and would just like to say re: apologetics:

1. It really really really helps to have actually read what the atheists you're critiquing have actually said in their books, rather than what you heard someone tell you they said. Because people who become atheists out of Christianity do tend to read the books.

2. Grammar and spelling are extremely important. Misspelling "atheist", for example, is very likely to elicit at least a sigh of exasperation on the part of potential con/reverts. Believe me, they are combing your posts and/or writings looking for any errors AT ALL so they'll have an excuse to dismiss your arguments.

3. Don't use stupid urban legends (like those multiple variations of the story about the erudite Darwinian professor who gets shown up in class for the fool that he is by an innocent question from a brave Christian student) in your "apologetics" - they're SO easy to discredit and dismiss.

Just a few thoughts off the top of my head ...  Cool  have a great weekend everyone!  Smiley
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« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2013, 07:03:26 PM »

Even though I'm re-reading Mere Christianity at the moment, I don't really like apologetics of any sort. At the end of the day, I remain a believer because I feel God in my life, not because of any brilliant argument I read.
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« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2013, 07:07:02 PM »

Even though I'm re-reading Mere Christianity at the moment, I don't really like apologetics of any sort. At the end of the day, I remain a believer because I feel God in my life, not because of any brilliant argument I read.
It's a really bad book IMO. I was severely disappointed by it and Lewis' apologetics in general. I think he wrote a book on the problem of pain or something that was pretty good. Haven't read Abolition of Man in a while.

I don't think you need to read much apologetics.
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« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2013, 02:36:35 AM »

Even though I'm re-reading Mere Christianity at the moment, I don't really like apologetics of any sort. At the end of the day, I remain a believer because I feel God in my life, not because of any brilliant argument I read.
I am at a point in life where I feel stuck. I am unable to believe reason alone will lead me to faith, but relying on feelings seems subjective. I think it is plain that both feeling and reason are necessary, but to what extent? Anyways, I am just really confused about how I can even get faith anymore.
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« Reply #53 on: May 11, 2013, 03:15:55 AM »

I think it is plain that both feeling and reason are necessary, but to what extent? Anyways, I am just really confused about how I can even get faith anymore.

Faith dies out if you don't act on it. Reading and reasoning alone cannot nourish it.
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« Reply #54 on: May 11, 2013, 09:35:55 AM »

Although I haven't become Orthodox (yet!) I am a repeat atheist-to-Catholic-to-atheist-to-Catholic-to-atheist-to ... (you get the point!  Grin ) and would just like to say re: apologetics:

1. It really really really helps to have actually read what the atheists you're critiquing have actually said in their books, rather than what you heard someone tell you they said. Because people who become atheists out of Christianity do tend to read the books.

2. Grammar and spelling are extremely important. Misspelling "atheist", for example, is very likely to elicit at least a sigh of exasperation on the part of potential con/reverts. Believe me, they are combing your posts and/or writings looking for any errors AT ALL so they'll have an excuse to dismiss your arguments.

3. Don't use stupid urban legends (like those multiple variations of the story about the erudite Darwinian professor who gets shown up in class for the fool that he is by an innocent question from a brave Christian student) in your "apologetics" - they're SO easy to discredit and dismiss.

Just a few thoughts off the top of my head ...  Cool  have a great weekend everyone!  Smiley

Tamato, tomato, yeah yeah yeah... just kidding  Grin
I'm guilty of that.  Was wondering why "athiest" just didn't look right in my speed typing laziness.
You're definitely right on all counts  Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: May 11, 2013, 11:12:02 AM »

Even though I'm re-reading Mere Christianity at the moment, I don't really like apologetics of any sort. At the end of the day, I remain a believer because I feel God in my life, not because of any brilliant argument I read.
I am at a point in life where I feel stuck. I am unable to believe reason alone will lead me to faith, but relying on feelings seems subjective. I think it is plain that both feeling and reason are necessary, but to what extent? Anyways, I am just really confused about how I can even get faith anymore.


I do not believe these are the only two paths, reason and feelings. There is enough reasonable evidence in all the realms of human inquiry, from history to philosophy to cosmology, that could make anyone not feel squeamish about reaching out to God. But there is a host of things we must do in order for a real experience of God to take place. God does not meet us on our terms. We are not justified in rejecting Him merely because He doesn't meet our expectations or do what we please. Father Thomas Hopko touches on this, with these "10 Essential Conditions for Coming to Know God's Truth."

1. The belief that the truth of things can be known, and the desire to know the truth and to do it, wherever it leads, is most essential. Indeed it is everything. When people have this desire and seek truth in order to do it, and are ready to do it whatever it takes to find it, know it and do it, God promises that they will find, and understand and live. In a sense, this desire and seeking is all that is necessary.

2. The seeking person must read the New Testament through, slowly and without judgment of details, at least two or three times, taking the time needed to do this. They should let go of what is not clear, and focus on what they can understand, what is clear to them. It would also be helpful to read a Psalm or two everyday.

3. The person must pray, as they can. If they claim to be Christian, at least somehow, they should say the Lord’s Prayer, and other prayers of the Church tradition, and attend Liturgical services, without serving or singing or reading. If they are not Christians, or are unsure, they must at least pray, “to whom it may concern,” saying something like, “if you are there, teach me, lead me, guide me…”

4. The person must eat good foods in moderation. A couple of days a week (like Wed and Fri) the person should fast; eating much less than usual. During this search the person should abstain from all alcohol, tobacco and drugs. Except a minimal amount of wine with meals. If overeating or drinking, smoking or drug-taking is a problem, the seeker must get formal help, like, for example, a 12 step program.

5. The person should abstain from all sexual activity unless they are married and expressing love (and not just having sex). There should be no TV or Internet porn. If sex is an addictive problem, they must take steps to get formal help.

6. The person should sit alone and still in silence for at least a half hour each day. They should watch their thoughts, but not engage them. They should say a very short prayer while doing them, to avoid engaging their thoughts.

7. The person should give at least a couple of hours a week to charitable work, and should give away some of their money (if they can) in a sacrificial way. They should do this, as far as possible, without anyone knowing what they are doing.

8. The person should open their life fully to at least one other trustworthy person, telling absolutely everything, without editing or hiding anything: their thoughts, dreams, temptations, actions, sins, fears, anxieties, etc.

9. The person must regularly talk with someone trustworthy specifically about their family of origin: their family history going back as far as possible, their childhood, relations with their parents and grandparents and siblings, their spiritual and religious history, their sexual history, education, etc.

10. The person must find a community of friends with whom to struggle to know the truth and to find life. The search cannot be done alone. We need each other.
Source: http://frjamescoles.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/10-essential-conditions-for-coming-to-know-god’s-truth-and-finding-life-by-fr-tom-hopko/
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« Reply #56 on: May 11, 2013, 12:08:58 PM »

The strongest arguments for atheism IMO are made by Omar Khayyam, but it looks like the new pop atheists don't have any time for poetry. (And really, who does anymore?)

Care to share?

Here you go... there are four editions to choose from.

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I think the newage crowd ruined my ability to take him seriously. Or perhaps that was someone else with a weird name.

$10 says it was Rumi, or Hafiz.
Based solely on weird names, Kahlil Gibran is a better fit.
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« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2013, 01:18:16 PM »

The strongest arguments for atheism IMO are made by Omar Khayyam, but it looks like the new pop atheists don't have any time for poetry. (And really, who does anymore?)

Care to share?

Here you go... there are four editions to choose from.

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I think the newage crowd ruined my ability to take him seriously. Or perhaps that was someone else with a weird name.

$10 says it was Rumi, or Hafiz.
Based solely on weird names, Kahlil Gibran is a better fit.

You won the $10. That's right.
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« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2013, 03:31:10 PM »

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« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2013, 06:15:10 PM »

Even though I'm re-reading Mere Christianity at the moment, I don't really like apologetics of any sort. At the end of the day, I remain a believer because I feel God in my life, not because of any brilliant argument I read.
It's a really bad book IMO. I was severely disappointed by it and Lewis' apologetics in general. I think he wrote a book on the problem of pain or something that was pretty good. Haven't read Abolition of Man in a while.

I don't think you need to read much apologetics.

I'm mostly just reading it because I got a collection of his writings for cheap at the used book store and wanted to read everything that came with it. Smiley
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« Reply #60 on: May 11, 2013, 06:32:24 PM »

Even though I'm re-reading Mere Christianity at the moment, I don't really like apologetics of any sort. At the end of the day, I remain a believer because I feel God in my life, not because of any brilliant argument I read.
It's a really bad book IMO. I was severely disappointed by it and Lewis' apologetics in general. I think he wrote a book on the problem of pain or something that was pretty good. Haven't read Abolition of Man in a while.

I don't think you need to read much apologetics.
I think it is good, considering his objective and audience.
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« Reply #61 on: May 11, 2013, 07:13:38 PM »

The strongest arguments for atheism IMO are made by Omar Khayyam, but it looks like the new pop atheists don't have any time for poetry. (And really, who does anymore?)

Care to share?

Here you go... there are four editions to choose from.

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I think the newage crowd ruined my ability to take him seriously. Or perhaps that was someone else with a weird name.

$10 says it was Rumi, or Hafiz.
Based solely on weird names, Kahlil Gibran is a better fit.

You won the $10. That's right.

I just donated the amount to the forum. The notion is that I would not be posting in this forum, if it were not for the presence of Iconodule, Xariskai (sp?), Jetavan, Asteriktos, etc. I am keeping this short otherwise you would get my overly emotional idealizations.
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« Reply #62 on: May 11, 2013, 09:19:55 PM »

Even though I'm re-reading Mere Christianity at the moment, I don't really like apologetics of any sort. At the end of the day, I remain a believer because I feel God in my life, not because of any brilliant argument I read.
It's a really bad book IMO. I was severely disappointed by it and Lewis' apologetics in general. I think he wrote a book on the problem of pain or something that was pretty good. Haven't read Abolition of Man in a while.

I don't think you need to read much apologetics.

The Abolition of Man was always one of my favorites of his non-fiction work (the other being The Four Loves). Mere Christianity is a good read, insofar as I like Lewis' conversational tone, but hardly the "checkmate" apologetic work that many Evangelicals seem to think it is. Some how I managed to miss Letters to Malcolm in my years of collecting and giving away and recollecting his work, but I'm reading through it right now- if there is one book of his that almost deserves the "Lewis was crypto-Orthodox" claims, it's that one.
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« Reply #63 on: May 14, 2013, 10:43:19 AM »

I was an atheist from my late teens to my mid 30s. I bought into Marxist materialist philosophy
at University. I was active on the left for many years.I had to eventually confront my alcoholism, and went to AA.
After repeated failures to get sober,I was advised that it was not possible to get sober in a spiritual programme, if I did not abandon my
prideful disdain of all religious/spiritual concepts. I started to pray the serenity prayer, and gradually the more I prayed the stronger I got.
Since I was brought up RC, it was a Christian concept of God that I reverted to, though I was deeply sceptical.
Gradually as my life improved and I stayed sober,I concluded that something was giving me the power to stay sober.
I knew it wasn't me so I had to decide it was just AA's collective strength or God. I had tried using AA's 'collective strength'
before and had failed. However when my illness really humbled me, losing my means of employment and my family
my self will and self reliance was shattered, I was humbled. I had to reach out to something else. I slowly recovered.
I slowly came to believe that God had been helping me and in fact had never abandoned me...I had turned my back on him.
As the years went by I got stronger and stronger, thank God, the longer I stayed sober.
I was active in AA, and had been sober well over 7 years, when I tried to formally reconcile with the RC Church.
However, since my marriage had ended and my ex wife had by then moved on, I was told I could never receive Holy Eucharist again.

I had almost resigned myself to being unreconciled with the RC Church, and I started to find myself unable to reconcile with it.

One day whilst travelling,  I tried to recollect the most profoundly moving spiritual sense that had impinged upon me in my years
as an Atheist. I was looking at a waste land of profanity and worldliness, but in my encounters with the RC church in those years
I had just been left unmoved everytime I had entered the RC Churches for family weddings, baptisms, even Mass when visiting parents...it had
left me cold
I then recalled that sometime in my early twenties I had engaged in an Academic exchange with Moscow. In the course of this I got to know a wonderful Russian young woman, Natalia ( Natasha). Eventually, I was invited to visit her family at their summer house in the woods ( dacha).
This being the 1980s the family had no evidence of religious belief in their Moscow flat, so I was a little surprised when I
saw three icons on the wall of the Dacha. That Sunday I was taken to a Divine Liturgy in a packed tiny Chapel in the woods.
I was transfixed by it....even though as an Atheist I dismissed this feeling as being a soppy romanticism.
However in the subsequent years of Atheism I made a point of visiting Church's when in Greece. I got great peace there.
After realising that I was still uncomfortable with many aspects of the RC Church, I met an Orthodox person whilst walking in
Spain. She sent me an Icon. After a year of looking at the Icon, I decided to investigate Orthodoxy. I spoke to an Orthodox
Priest, who told me to take 6 months out and read and think and pray. Particularly he asked me to write down if Orthodoxy
had impinged upon my life in my years of Atheism. When we met again I had written about the Church in Russia and my love
of the quiet Greek Churches, and the Icon.  He said that the 'Holy Spirit' had been knocking on your door, but it took you 20 years
to answer it". I  became a catachumen after a further 6 months of consideration. I was a Catachumen for about a year. I was
chrismated on the Eve of Theophany a number of years ago. I am very at home in Orthodoxy, Glory be to God.
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« Reply #64 on: May 14, 2013, 01:52:57 PM »

I was an atheist...
What a wonderful story, finbar. Thank you for sharing it.
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« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2013, 10:19:00 AM »

Im on my way.
I was a firm atheist who after following the logic of ultimate materialism & moral relativism went to it's ultimate conclusion which for me was to inject myself with Heroin as much as possible to get through the days until the dau when I would finallyu decide to inject the amount guaranteed to kill off a human.

Fortunately for my soul, God had other plans for me and I can now see that the further away from God I turned my face, the further down the depths of darkness I plunged. I remember when I was a child that I somehow "knew" there was One God who have created all & that I very much wanted follow His will. But the way things are in the western world right now is that the left side of the ideological spectrum have ideologican monopoly over the most important societal institutions so the brainwashing into supreme materialism begins at school or even kindergarten and when you grow up in an agnostic family with no connection to the historical spirituality of their forefathers (in my case lutheranism) it's very hard for a child to not be affected by these attitudes and the eternal praisings of only one side of the argument

I was forced to clean up at a government funded rehab for 6 months and as the poison slowly left my body during about 2 weeks I started to have very profound spiritual dreams and psychological break-downs during daytime. I was automatically biased against christianity as a faith because of todays education but after reading the Quran and the Bible it was clear to me that the only text containing spiritual wisdom was the Holy Bible!!
What I missed in christianity (especially western) was spiritual sustenance. It seemed to me like a social club or even a corporation where one met with like-minded idealists and decided how to organize a group while leaving out all practical spirituality. It was only through my research of monasticism and church fathers that I came down to realize that the ancient spiritual wealth of the historical church which to me seemed water down to mere theories was only present in the Orthodox church and the eastern catholic churches.

I have not yet converted as the only church in my town celebrate lithurgy in a foreign language :/
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« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2013, 10:26:10 AM »

I was an atheist from my late teens to my mid 30s. I bought into Marxist materialist philosophy
at University. I was active on the left for many years.I had to eventually confront my alcoholism, and went to AA.
After repeated failures to get sober,I was advised that it was not possible to get sober in a spiritual programme, if I did not abandon my
prideful disdain of all religious/spiritual concepts. I started to pray the serenity prayer, and gradually the more I prayed the stronger I got.
Since I was brought up RC, it was a Christian concept of God that I reverted to, though I was deeply sceptical.
Gradually as my life improved and I stayed sober,I concluded that something was giving me the power to stay sober.
I knew it wasn't me so I had to decide it was just AA's collective strength or God. I had tried using AA's 'collective strength'
before and had failed. However when my illness really humbled me, losing my means of employment and my family
my self will and self reliance was shattered, I was humbled. I had to reach out to something else. I slowly recovered.
I slowly came to believe that God had been helping me and in fact had never abandoned me...I had turned my back on him.
As the years went by I got stronger and stronger, thank God, the longer I stayed sober.
I was active in AA, and had been sober well over 7 years, when I tried to formally reconcile with the RC Church.
However, since my marriage had ended and my ex wife had by then moved on, I was told I could never receive Holy Eucharist again.

I had almost resigned myself to being unreconciled with the RC Church, and I started to find myself unable to reconcile with it.

One day whilst travelling,  I tried to recollect the most profoundly moving spiritual sense that had impinged upon me in my years
as an Atheist. I was looking at a waste land of profanity and worldliness, but in my encounters with the RC church in those years
I had just been left unmoved everytime I had entered the RC Churches for family weddings, baptisms, even Mass when visiting parents...it had
left me cold
I then recalled that sometime in my early twenties I had engaged in an Academic exchange with Moscow. In the course of this I got to know a wonderful Russian young woman, Natalia ( Natasha). Eventually, I was invited to visit her family at their summer house in the woods ( dacha).
This being the 1980s the family had no evidence of religious belief in their Moscow flat, so I was a little surprised when I
saw three icons on the wall of the Dacha. That Sunday I was taken to a Divine Liturgy in a packed tiny Chapel in the woods.
I was transfixed by it....even though as an Atheist I dismissed this feeling as being a soppy romanticism.
However in the subsequent years of Atheism I made a point of visiting Church's when in Greece. I got great peace there.
After realising that I was still uncomfortable with many aspects of the RC Church, I met an Orthodox person whilst walking in
Spain. She sent me an Icon. After a year of looking at the Icon, I decided to investigate Orthodoxy. I spoke to an Orthodox
Priest, who told me to take 6 months out and read and think and pray. Particularly he asked me to write down if Orthodoxy
had impinged upon my life in my years of Atheism. When we met again I had written about the Church in Russia and my love
of the quiet Greek Churches, and the Icon.  He said that the 'Holy Spirit' had been knocking on your door, but it took you 20 years
to answer it". I  became a catachumen after a further 6 months of consideration. I was a Catachumen for about a year. I was
chrismated on the Eve of Theophany a number of years ago. I am very at home in Orthodoxy, Glory be to God.

Your story makes me smile on a day which is very difficult for me. God bless you! + Glory to God in all things! +
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« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2013, 11:13:01 AM »

I was an atheist from my late teens to my mid 30s. I bought into Marxist materialist philosophy
at University. I was active on the left for many years.I had to eventually confront my alcoholism, and went to AA.
After repeated failures to get sober,I was advised that it was not possible to get sober in a spiritual programme, if I did not abandon my
prideful disdain of all religious/spiritual concepts. I started to pray the serenity prayer, and gradually the more I prayed the stronger I got.
Since I was brought up RC, it was a Christian concept of God that I reverted to, though I was deeply sceptical.
Gradually as my life improved and I stayed sober,I concluded that something was giving me the power to stay sober.
I knew it wasn't me so I had to decide it was just AA's collective strength or God. I had tried using AA's 'collective strength'
before and had failed. However when my illness really humbled me, losing my means of employment and my family
my self will and self reliance was shattered, I was humbled. I had to reach out to something else. I slowly recovered.
I slowly came to believe that God had been helping me and in fact had never abandoned me...I had turned my back on him.
As the years went by I got stronger and stronger, thank God, the longer I stayed sober.
I was active in AA, and had been sober well over 7 years, when I tried to formally reconcile with the RC Church.
However, since my marriage had ended and my ex wife had by then moved on, I was told I could never receive Holy Eucharist again.

I had almost resigned myself to being unreconciled with the RC Church, and I started to find myself unable to reconcile with it.

One day whilst travelling,  I tried to recollect the most profoundly moving spiritual sense that had impinged upon me in my years
as an Atheist. I was looking at a waste land of profanity and worldliness, but in my encounters with the RC church in those years
I had just been left unmoved everytime I had entered the RC Churches for family weddings, baptisms, even Mass when visiting parents...it had
left me cold
I then recalled that sometime in my early twenties I had engaged in an Academic exchange with Moscow. In the course of this I got to know a wonderful Russian young woman, Natalia ( Natasha). Eventually, I was invited to visit her family at their summer house in the woods ( dacha).
This being the 1980s the family had no evidence of religious belief in their Moscow flat, so I was a little surprised when I
saw three icons on the wall of the Dacha. That Sunday I was taken to a Divine Liturgy in a packed tiny Chapel in the woods.
I was transfixed by it....even though as an Atheist I dismissed this feeling as being a soppy romanticism.
However in the subsequent years of Atheism I made a point of visiting Church's when in Greece. I got great peace there.
After realising that I was still uncomfortable with many aspects of the RC Church, I met an Orthodox person whilst walking in
Spain. She sent me an Icon. After a year of looking at the Icon, I decided to investigate Orthodoxy. I spoke to an Orthodox
Priest, who told me to take 6 months out and read and think and pray. Particularly he asked me to write down if Orthodoxy
had impinged upon my life in my years of Atheism. When we met again I had written about the Church in Russia and my love
of the quiet Greek Churches, and the Icon.  He said that the 'Holy Spirit' had been knocking on your door, but it took you 20 years
to answer it". I  became a catachumen after a further 6 months of consideration. I was a Catachumen for about a year. I was
chrismated on the Eve of Theophany a number of years ago. I am very at home in Orthodoxy, Glory be to God.

What a journey my dear brother in Christ, your text really reveals the strength you gained from God, Glory be to his holy and loving name.

I ask that you please pray for me beloved brother, that your strong faith and soul can bring me to 1 % closer to your level of faith.
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« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2013, 06:16:31 PM »

Even though I'm re-reading Mere Christianity at the moment, I don't really like apologetics of any sort. At the end of the day, I remain a believer because I feel God in my life, not because of any brilliant argument I read.
It's a really bad book IMO. I was severely disappointed by it and Lewis' apologetics in general. I think he wrote a book on the problem of pain or something that was pretty good. Haven't read Abolition of Man in a while.

I don't think you need to read much apologetics.
It's pretty good if you don't take it as much more than it purports to be: A very short Christianity 101 type text. It's not a very detailed apologetic, and the apologetics it contains are fairly weak. (The ever popular Trilemma hinges on the premise that every quote attributed to Jesus in the Gospels is genuine, which is easy enough to reject.) But if you don't approach it as an apologetics book, there's some good stuff in there.
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