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« on: May 16, 2013, 08:22:20 PM »

I have found a lot of pdf books that I am interested in printing. The problem is, I really don't want to print hundreds upon hundreds of pages on my own printer. Any advice as to where I can print them for a reasonable price?
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 08:38:06 PM »

You might try the Xerox store or find of those large copy printers.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 10:30:46 PM »

Looks like you have 3 options:

Option 1: Staples, Office Depot, FedEx Kinko's all have computers where you can sit down, open your file (PDF, Word, etc.) and print.  Black and White costs about 50 cents a page.  Color costs about 70 cents a page.

Option 2:  University library.  The ones in my neck of the woods charge about 10-15 cents a page for black and white (20-25 cents for color).  Much cheaper than Option 1.

Option 3: Commercial printer - their prices may be cheaper than Option 2 depending on how many pages you want printed.

Do you want any binding?
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 12:46:17 AM »

Are they public domain? Otherwise you are committing a crime or so they tell me.

Even if they are, then it is probably less expensive to just buy the book rather than printing hundreds of high contrast, eye-straining, non-bound pages.
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2013, 01:52:12 AM »

I would be interested in finding this out too. I would like to get a library of classical chanting books started, but I don't quite have the money to be importing reprints of these books (which by now are most assuredly public domain) from Greece.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 10:32:42 AM »

If there are only a couple of books, you might try a self publishing company like Lulu (http://www.lulu.com/calculators/bookCalc.php?cid=publish_book). It costs $6.40 for a 100 page US letter size bound book; $5.25 for smaller size books.

If you are going to do this a lot, buy an inexpensive monochrome laser printer (new or used) with duplex printing.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 10:37:44 AM »

Wouldn't buying an e-eader be a good alternative?
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 11:25:52 AM »

I have found a lot of pdf books that I am interested in printing. The problem is, I really don't want to print hundreds upon hundreds of pages on my own printer. Any advice as to where I can print them for a reasonable price?

I did this once at the UPS store.  It ended up costing like 30 bucks.  I should have just ordered the book used on amazon.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 01:07:34 PM »

Wouldn't buying an e-eader be a good alternative?

Frankly none render pdfs well in my opinion.

Better to get a small notebook, probably cheaper as well.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2013, 08:29:00 PM »

Looks like you have 3 options:

Option 1: Staples, Office Depot, FedEx Kinko's all have computers where you can sit down, open your file (PDF, Word, etc.) and print.  Black and White costs about 50 cents a page.  Color costs about 70 cents a page.

Option 2:  University library.  The ones in my neck of the woods charge about 10-15 cents a page for black and white (20-25 cents for color).  Much cheaper than Option 1.

Option 3: Commercial printer - their prices may be cheaper than Option 2 depending on how many pages you want printed.

Do you want any binding?
Hmm... I'm not sure. I think I may be able to handle doing the binding all on my own.

Are they public domain?

Even if they are, then it is probably less expensive to just buy the book rather than printing hundreds of high contrast, eye-straining, non-bound pages.
Yes, I assume they are "public domain."

Otherwise you are committing a crime or so they tell me.
This is what I was thinking too.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2013, 08:34:19 PM »

Wouldn't buying an e-eader be a good alternative?
Meh. I don't really like them. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer bound books. Plus, a lot of the books I have in mind are language workbooks that involve writing in the pages (like the one you gave me), so an e-reader wouldn't work.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2013, 11:00:20 PM »

Looks like you have 3 options:

Option 1: Staples, Office Depot, FedEx Kinko's all have computers where you can sit down, open your file (PDF, Word, etc.) and print.  Black and White costs about 50 cents a page.  Color costs about 70 cents a page.

Option 2:  University library.  The ones in my neck of the woods charge about 10-15 cents a page for black and white (20-25 cents for color).  Much cheaper than Option 1.

Option 3: Commercial printer - their prices may be cheaper than Option 2 depending on how many pages you want printed.

Do you want any binding?
Hmm... I'm not sure. I think I may be able to handle doing the binding all on my own.

Are they public domain?

Even if they are, then it is probably less expensive to just buy the book rather than printing hundreds of high contrast, eye-straining, non-bound pages.
Yes, I assume they are "public domain."

Even if they are, then it is probably less expensive to just buy the book rather than printing hundreds of high contrast, eye-straining, non-bound pages.
This is what I was thinking too.
I misquoted the wrong part of Orthonorm's post in reply #9.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2013, 11:08:49 PM »

I had ~650 pages printed for a chanting book at Staples and it was only $63 in black and white (so I guess $0.10 a page?). Spiral bound very nicely. I would definitely print with them again.

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2013, 11:32:37 PM »

I had ~650 pages printed for a chanting book at Staples and it was only $63 in black and white (so I guess $0.10 a page?). Spiral bound very nicely. I would definitely print with them again.

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Only $63?

OK. I can buy relatively uncommon texts which are not mass market items for much less.

Opus' suggestion might work. I would just be wary of the binding.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2013, 11:38:25 PM »

Wouldn't buying an e-eader be a good alternative?
Meh. I don't really like them. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer bound books. Plus, a lot of the books I have in mind are language workbooks that involve writing in the pages (like the one you gave me), so an e-reader wouldn't work.

I am with you. Especially with language texts.

I am not a "reader" like many around here. The sort who needs to be reading something or another all the time.

I read a few things over and over with the occasional new selection.

(Gonna keep up the I sentences.)

I was given a kindle and what it was most useful for was for a portable manner of "skimming" (what most people think is reading) stuff I was actually read at home.

It also was great to grab public domain stuff I would never buy but would use as reference. Lotsa German texts which were referenced in materials I was actually reading for example. (But the pdf handling on all the ereaders sorta sucked except for the expensive larger and not discontinued kindle.)

Severian keep us up to date. I am interested on how you sort this all out.
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2013, 01:16:58 AM »

If there are only a couple of books, you might try a self publishing company like Lulu (http://www.lulu.com/calculators/bookCalc.php?cid=publish_book). It costs $6.40 for a 100 page US letter size bound book; $5.25 for smaller size books.

If you are going to do this a lot, buy an inexpensive monochrome laser printer (new or used) with duplex printing.

I am quoting myself because I am usually justifiably ignored, but I had a thought that is somewhat counter to my previous post.

The discounts are fairly large for 100 books or so. I am somewhat into mechanical watches and it is not unusual to do group buys to lower the price.

I do not see why it is not possible to set up donations for OCnet publications.

I specified Lulu because it came up immediately with google, but I previously used Instantpublisher back in the day when everything had to be formatted with Adobe Pagemaker (it was a text book for a continuing medical education  course for psychiatrists). The quality was good and I designed the cover and converted the Word file to Pagemaker.

An example would be Benedicta Ward's The Sayings of the Desert Fathers. 304 pages with a new color cover picked out by LBK. The cost for 100 copies is $672. It is just a matter of taking up a separate collection for this purpose.

The recurring discussions of the best prayer book can be solved by an OCnet edition that contains all of them (although it may require a cut to the copyright owners).

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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2013, 05:12:42 AM »

Lulu is good, but you must be absolutely sure that copyright laws allow you to print those books (i.e. they're in the public domain). Negotiating copyright with them would a) be a nightmare, and b) raise the cost exponentially. The local xerox shop won't ask questions. (I used to keep mine solvent. >_>)
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2013, 11:10:43 AM »

I had ~650 pages printed for a chanting book at Staples and it was only $63 in black and white (so I guess $0.10 a page?). Spiral bound very nicely. I would definitely print with them again.

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My local Staples is also 10¢/page for B&W. I think it's 39¢ for colour.
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2013, 01:35:23 PM »

The recurring discussions of the best prayer book can be solved by an OCnet edition that contains all of them (although it may require a cut to the copyright owners).
We could always do new translations of prayers by members of the community (as the orthodox-church.info people do).

A great idea to print an OC.net book like this.
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2013, 03:27:50 PM »

Forgive my unbelievable ignorance, but I'm pretty sure my current printer is a laser printer. I have the Officejet 8600 Pro Plus. Do you think this badboy can handle printing that much at a time?
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2013, 03:40:32 PM »

Forgive my unbelievable ignorance, but I'm pretty sure my current printer is a laser printer. I have the Officejet 8600 Pro Plus. Do you think this badboy can handle printing that much at a time?

As someone who's tried everything and anything to circumvent buying rare books, I can tell you that this is not worth its cost in ink and toner.

If you can give us more details about the books you want, we can give you more pointed advice.
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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2013, 03:45:03 PM »

Forgive my unbelievable ignorance, but I'm pretty sure my current printer is a laser printer. I have the Officejet 8600 Pro Plus. Do you think this badboy can handle printing that much at a time?

As someone who's tried everything and anything to circumvent buying rare books, I can tell you that this is not worth its cost in ink and toner.
I was sort of thinking the same thing too.

If you can give us more details about the books you want, we can give you more pointed advice.
Just to give a few examples, this webpage has thousands of pages worth of free Arabic learning material that I would love to be able to have printed. If I really can't find a practical way to print all of this stuff I suppose I could just read it off my computer, it's just slightly less convenient.

http://www.kalamullah.com/learning-arabic.html
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2013, 03:58:37 PM »

Forgive my unbelievable ignorance, but I'm pretty sure my current printer is a laser printer. I have the Officejet 8600 Pro Plus. Do you think this badboy can handle printing that much at a time?

As someone who's tried everything and anything to circumvent buying rare books, I can tell you that this is not worth its cost in ink and toner.
I was sort of thinking the same thing too.

If you can give us more details about the books you want, we can give you more pointed advice.
Just to give a few examples, this webpage has thousands of pages worth of free Arabic learning material that I would love to be able to have printed. If I really can't find a practical way to print all of this stuff I suppose I could just read it off my computer, it's just slightly less convenient.

http://www.kalamullah.com/learning-arabic.html

OK. In this case, we're definitely just looking for cheapo options. Self-publishing is very cheap, but the pages may be too small or have poor resolution. Moreover, such books tend to have such bindings as not to permit being laid flat.

Since these pages have little black on them, using your own printer might actually work. I would check with a print shop like Staples' first and see how much it would cost for them to print it using the cheapest paper.
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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2013, 04:00:21 PM »

^Will do. Thank you Rufus and all the others here for your suggestions.
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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2013, 04:36:55 PM »

Forgive my unbelievable ignorance, but I'm pretty sure my current printer is a laser printer. I have the Officejet 8600 Pro Plus. Do you think this badboy can handle printing that much at a time?

From what I understand it is an inkjet printer. Printing is more expensive because the ink is more expensive per page than a laser printer toner.

It is preferable to have a duplex printer for books (it also saves on the cost of paper).

I have only used HP and Apple printers, but here is an example (I do not know the quality but the price is right):

A SAMSUNG SL-M2625D/XAA Workgroup, 27 pages/min for $80:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828112459

SAMSUNG MLT-D116S/XAA 1200 page toner for $30:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828112456
SAMSUNG MLT-D116L/XAA 3000 page toner for $55:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828112457&Tpk=MLT-D116L&IsVirtualParent=1
The 9000 page imaging unit is separate and costs $50

I believe the printer comes with the 1200 page toner and 9000 page imaging unit.

You can do the math as to how much it would cost to print a book.
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« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2013, 07:25:37 PM »

^Thank you for the info, Opus118.
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2013, 07:17:30 AM »

Severian,

Regardless of cost calculations, don't forget that home office printers are not designed to print so many pages at a time, whether they are bubblejet (which I think yours is), or laser, or whatever.  You need a commericial printer designed to cope with such large volumes.
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2013, 05:26:21 PM »

Severian,

Regardless of cost calculations, don't forget that home office printers are not designed to print so many pages at a time, whether they are bubblejet (which I think yours is), or laser, or whatever.  You need a commericial printer designed to cope with such large volumes.

I disagree qawe. Severian is not going into the printing business. It is unlikely there is much of a market for a monochrome laser printer for purely personal use. An all in one printer like he already has is the more logical choice. There is no distinction between home office business and office business monochrome laser printers. They get a lot of use and go through 100 pages a day, usually much more. I have used laser printers that only hold 100 pages of paper and it is in constant use by a workgroup that readily goes through a ream of paper a day. We would be more helpful picking the best of the monochrome laser printers rather than casting doubt.
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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2013, 01:56:18 AM »

Lulu is good, but you must be absolutely sure that copyright laws allow you to print those books (i.e. they're in the public domain). Negotiating copyright with them would a) be a nightmare, and b) raise the cost exponentially. The local xerox shop won't ask questions. (I used to keep mine solvent. >_>)

The local xerox shops here in Los Angeles ask all sorts of questions to avoid copyright violations. One must show that they have a receipt for a book which is to be copied. Furthermore, the book must state that copies can be made. For example, when I was taking an anatomy class, I brought my receipt from the college bookstore, and they allowed me to make colored copies of Dr. Netter's plates (one copy of 10 different plates).
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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2013, 03:17:40 PM »

Forgive my unbelievable ignorance, but I'm pretty sure my current printer is a laser printer. I have the Officejet 8600 Pro Plus. Do you think this badboy can handle printing that much at a time?

As someone who's tried everything and anything to circumvent buying rare books, I can tell you that this is not worth its cost in ink and toner.

If you can give us more details about the books you want, we can give you more pointed advice.

I agree.

It makes almost zero sense to publish a book yourself, unless you have no other alternative.

I would much rather pay $60 for a text than print one for even $20.

It will be more than 4x better quality. And if that doesn't matter, you probably don't need that text in the first place.
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2. Homosexuality
3. Masterbation
4. Calendar? 
5. Posters formerly known as
6. The greatest collection of maps in the world
7. Balkan politics (Yes, that includes Russia)
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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2013, 04:20:17 PM »

OC.net book chapters
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2. Homosexuality
3. Masterbation
4. Calendar? 
5. Posters formerly known as
6. The greatest collection of maps in the world
7. Balkan politics (Yes, that includes Russia)
8. Those were the good years
9. Prayer

Shouldn't "Ask Your Spiritual Father" be a disclaimer on the front?

"This book does not necessarily contain the teachings of the Orthodox Church.  While some contributors may be spiritual fathers, if they are not your legal spiritual father the reader is responsible for their own learning.  Anything said by Vamrat can be considered gospel truth.  Otherwise, ask your spiritual father before attempting paleodiets, LARPing, gay/moslem/woman/democrap(TM)/jew-bashing, using alternate calendars to the God-given Julian, using maps, or anything else found in this book.  Caveat lector."
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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2013, 08:51:13 PM »

I may just print the books in question (there is a specific book that I would like to print atm, however) at school. I won't print the pages all at once, however, maybe about 30 pages a day for about two weeks or so. The printers at my school are more than capable of handling such a printing load. Plus, it's free. That only leaves the problem of binding. Any suggestions for that?
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« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2013, 12:19:31 AM »

Forgive my unbelievable ignorance, but I'm pretty sure my current printer is a laser printer. I have the Officejet 8600 Pro Plus. Do you think this badboy can handle printing that much at a time?

As someone who's tried everything and anything to circumvent buying rare books, I can tell you that this is not worth its cost in ink and toner.

If you can give us more details about the books you want, we can give you more pointed advice.

I agree.

It makes almost zero sense to publish a book yourself, unless you have no other alternative.

I would much rather pay $60 for a text than print one for even $20.

It will be more than 4x better quality. And if that doesn't matter, you probably don't need that text in the first place.

To keep things short, this is bad advice.
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« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2013, 12:22:49 AM »

I may just print the books in question (there is a specific book that I would like to print atm, however) at school. I won't print the pages all at once, however, maybe about 30 pages a day for about two weeks or so. The printers at my school are more than capable of handling such a printing load. Plus, it's free. That only leaves the problem of binding. Any suggestions for that?

Your school gives 30 free printing pages a day?

For binding, UPS Store, FedEX Kinkos, Staples, locally owned copy shop, shouldn't cost you more than $5-10.

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« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2013, 12:55:08 AM »

Forgive my unbelievable ignorance, but I'm pretty sure my current printer is a laser printer. I have the Officejet 8600 Pro Plus. Do you think this badboy can handle printing that much at a time?

As someone who's tried everything and anything to circumvent buying rare books, I can tell you that this is not worth its cost in ink and toner.

If you can give us more details about the books you want, we can give you more pointed advice.

I agree.

It makes almost zero sense to publish a book yourself, unless you have no other alternative.

I would much rather pay $60 for a text than print one for even $20.

It will be more than 4x better quality. And if that doesn't matter, you probably don't need that text in the first place.

To keep things short, this is bad advice.

That is short.

I've had "self bound" "books" made by others. They last almost no time, if you actually read them. Maybe some of these online services work better, I dunno. Spiral bound? Sheets basically glued and taped together? If I am reading them, they wouldn't last a month.

Some well made texts I beaten to death enough times I am on my fifth copy.

I guess most people don't read, they glance at words on pages. Perhaps that would work for that. Or maybe people just memorize everything they read and I am the exception.

Never mind the paper stock you are using and the contrast.

Here is a great book that is out of copyright and that could print yourself:

http://www.amazon.com/G-Leibnizs-Monadology-Nicholas-Rescher/dp/0822954494/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1369198578&sr=8-2&keywords=monadology

This edition isn't out of copyright so you going not get the excellent translation nor notes which would be helpful for most people dealing with this text for the first time.

How many pages do you get?

480

How much do they cost?

$19

The binding is average.

Could I print this in theory for a "third" the cost? Yes. Could you finagle doing it for "free"? Yes.

It would be madness to do so. The quality would not be in the ballpark.

If can't afford $19 for a text which you can spend a lifetime reading, you might want to study up on a few basic life skills other than how to print books on the cheap to make that $19.

Mowing a lawn will cut it, literally and figuratively.
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« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2013, 01:50:37 AM »

Can't you just pick out a beat down, junker printer from the thrift store with a couple of ink cartridges and some stacks of paper from the dollar store and just keep printing until it dies? That may be cheaper than the $0.50-per-page average that most office department stores will charge you.
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« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2013, 02:04:20 AM »

Forgive my unbelievable ignorance, but I'm pretty sure my current printer is a laser printer. I have the Officejet 8600 Pro Plus. Do you think this badboy can handle printing that much at a time?

As someone who's tried everything and anything to circumvent buying rare books, I can tell you that this is not worth its cost in ink and toner.

If you can give us more details about the books you want, we can give you more pointed advice.

I agree.

It makes almost zero sense to publish a book yourself, unless you have no other alternative.

I would much rather pay $60 for a text than print one for even $20.

It will be more than 4x better quality. And if that doesn't matter, you probably don't need that text in the first place.

To keep things short, this is bad advice.

That is short.

I've had "self bound" "books" made by others. They last almost no time, if you actually read them. Maybe some of these online services work better, I dunno. Spiral bound? Sheets basically glued and taped together? If I am reading them, they wouldn't last a month.

Some well made texts I beaten to death enough times I am on my fifth copy.

I guess most people don't read, they glance at words on pages. Perhaps that would work for that. Or maybe people just memorize everything they read and I am the exception.

Never mind the paper stock you are using and the contrast.

Here is a great book that is out of copyright and that could print yourself:

http://www.amazon.com/G-Leibnizs-Monadology-Nicholas-Rescher/dp/0822954494/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1369198578&sr=8-2&keywords=monadology

This edition isn't out of copyright so you going not get the excellent translation nor notes which would be helpful for most people dealing with this text for the first time.

How many pages do you get?

480

How much do they cost?

$19

The binding is average.

Could I print this in theory for a "third" the cost? Yes. Could you finagle doing it for "free"? Yes.

It would be madness to do so. The quality would not be in the ballpark.

If can't afford $19 for a text which you can spend a lifetime reading, you might want to study up on a few basic life skills other than how to print books on the cheap to make that $19.

Mowing a lawn will cut it, literally and figuratively.

Bro....not everyone reads with the voracity you do.  I would wager to say you are in the extreme minority. 
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« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2013, 01:24:17 AM »

Forgive my unbelievable ignorance, but I'm pretty sure my current printer is a laser printer. I have the Officejet 8600 Pro Plus. Do you think this badboy can handle printing that much at a time?

As someone who's tried everything and anything to circumvent buying rare books, I can tell you that this is not worth its cost in ink and toner.

If you can give us more details about the books you want, we can give you more pointed advice.

I agree.

It makes almost zero sense to publish a book yourself, unless you have no other alternative.

I would much rather pay $60 for a text than print one for even $20.

It will be more than 4x better quality. And if that doesn't matter, you probably don't need that text in the first place.

To keep things short, this is bad advice.

That is short.

I've had "self bound" "books" made by others. They last almost no time, if you actually read them. Maybe some of these online services work better, I dunno. Spiral bound? Sheets basically glued and taped together? If I am reading them, they wouldn't last a month.

Some well made texts I beaten to death enough times I am on my fifth copy.

I guess most people don't read, they glance at words on pages. Perhaps that would work for that. Or maybe people just memorize everything they read and I am the exception.

Never mind the paper stock you are using and the contrast.

Here is a great book that is out of copyright and that could print yourself:

http://www.amazon.com/G-Leibnizs-Monadology-Nicholas-Rescher/dp/0822954494/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1369198578&sr=8-2&keywords=monadology

This edition isn't out of copyright so you going not get the excellent translation nor notes which would be helpful for most people dealing with this text for the first time.

How many pages do you get?

480

How much do they cost?

$19

The binding is average.

Could I print this in theory for a "third" the cost? Yes. Could you finagle doing it for "free"? Yes.

It would be madness to do so. The quality would not be in the ballpark.

If can't afford $19 for a text which you can spend a lifetime reading, you might want to study up on a few basic life skills other than how to print books on the cheap to make that $19.

Mowing a lawn will cut it, literally and figuratively.

I did read this this morning. My issue is that your desires can be prohibitive and to convince someone that this is essential is detrimental.

I had a two-fold take on this post:
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It makes almost zero sense to publish a book yourself, unless you have no other alternative.
I would much rather pay $60 for a text than print one for even $20.
It will be more than 4x better quality. And if that doesn't matter, you probably don't need that text in the first place.

My first take was based on my immediate environment. Six 6t ft high book cases and a number of 4 ft high book cases with two rows of books on each shelf and numerous boxes with more books. Certainly more than 1000 books and your notion can lead to the clutter that I am dealing with.

My second take was that my following your advise would have deprived me what would be otherwise available to me. In my case it was music. We are of course talking about pre-internet, few music stores and almost none with the beethoven and mozart piano sonatas with the exception of the Moonlight and the Mozart one with the Turkish Rondo. For me it was a scavenger hunt (this is during high school by the way). Often mildewy falling apart pages (uniformly G. Schirmer publications) scotch taped. What I could not find I photocopied at  5 cents per page at the public library.

Each page was put into a binder using a single hole punch and each whole was lovingly reinforced on both sides with those binder hole reinforcement rings (which I am not sure they sell any more).

Basically to distort a phrase from Jurassic Park. If you love something enough, nature will find a way.

I have a background in industrial-scale printing and I may comment further. It is late for me now.
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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2013, 07:04:15 PM »

Severian, how much would it cost to buy the books?
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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2013, 08:02:07 PM »

Severian, how much would it cost to buy the books?
Probably hundreds of dollars. This one book alone goes for well over $100 on Amazon.
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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2013, 08:53:29 PM »

Severian, how much would it cost to buy the books?
Probably hundreds of dollars. This one book alone goes for well over $100 on Amazon.

Yeah, that pretty much makes your point.
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« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2013, 11:22:20 PM »

Severian, how much would it cost to buy the books?
Probably hundreds of dollars. This one book alone goes for well over $100 on Amazon.

At some point it would be useful to know what you want printed. Not one item. Everything! It makes a difference. For example if your pdf is predominately graphic (as apposed to European text), you will not be printing 30 pages/min but whatever pages per minute graphic files can be accomplished.

Links would be helpful.
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