You see, this is an answer i highly respect. Jovan your replies on these forums are possibly the best i have ever read. You talk with such respect and consideration for others, that i can see Christ in your life. Its amazing, considering i am only reading a thread, but i really can. Just wanted to mention that to you before I tell you how I disagree with you
First and most important my friend and brother/sister in the faith. I by myself can´t thank you enough but only pray that God may grant you the best of his blessing for the loving response. Appreciate it a lot, I´m just a sinner trying to grasp 0.001% of Gods loving truth. Your encouraging words got me 99 entire %
closer to the full truth of his love, hehe
I will try to respond as briefly as I can to some things that I feel are very necessary to discuss more about. To the issue of which way/path/life is considered a true and holy one before God, and through which church.
What I tried to do in my earlier response was to emphasize on the logical necessity of only 1 way in acquiring salvation before God. It may sound as a very harsh idea, that the orthodox church, hold to the most grounded,truthful and entire way of life before God. But lets turn the perspective a bit more, what if we asked Christ about the issue. Christ, please show and reveal the entire truth of your way and how I can follow it most safely. Christ would never answer the question in the same manner as we humans sometimes would like it to sound. In the light of ALL the different churches, and ALL the teachings. Which ones would Christ reasonable put forth as necessarily things in life that would grant a human the best chance to reunite with him in heaven.
With a example from the churches for example:
A: Would Christ actually urge us to pray for each other, not just on earth, but also through the persons in union with the one body of Christ in heaven?
B: Or would Jesus Christ in full union with his true body just say, do never ever ask for a saint in heaven to pray for you. You will be drawn further away from me!
You probably grasp the point by now dear friend. Martin Luther, the reformer and therefore the foundation of the protestant church, said that using the saints in prayer, in asking for help before God, was a heretical idea. In the other end the orthodox church firmly and always believed that saints, their prayers and we asking them for their prayers are a very recommendable way to come closer to Gods salvation, God willing only. Both A and B can´t both be correct, Christ can´t never urge both ways to be true ones before him.
Furthermore, many other issues can brought forth. The most important thing from this discussion must be, there can only be one way that Christ can recommend. He can´t be pluralistic and yet exluding things from his truth or church. One verse from scripture that I always loved is from Jude, which gives a hint to a faith/way/path that was entrusted to us from God, not a faith/way/path that we ourselves were to experiment with
Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people.
The faith was entrusted to us once for all , and we have to contend for it. Yet we sit here and discuss that expression of faith that actually should be very clear to us according to Jude. Question is, where is the fullness of that faith that was entrusted?
My question to you is why does god grant us "protestants" salvation in the first place? Do you really think the protestant path is not good enough to grant us salvation in the end? Is it that risky that i have to tell myself that i must convert?
My answer to these questions will be much the same. Who am I, a slothful and evil sinner before God, to judge without any power to do it? I can´t speak on the behalf of my own name about salvation, as it is a bigger mystery that only God can handle within his full nature. Therefore if someone is saved or not, is not up to me, you or nobody else to answer. I can only give a path for which I know that God can fully work out his plan for salvation. I would rewrite your first question like this:
Has God granted all protestants a total way of life, from 1-10, which is recommendable not on our terms, but on Gods? Or does every single generation have to figure it out according to the culture of that time?
The same question I put forward to the orthodox church:
Has God granted all orthodox a total way of life, from 1-10, which is recommendable not on our terms, but on Gods? Or does every single generation have to figure it out according to the culture of that time?
I think that the different answer to these questions pretty much talks for themselves. 2 different ways cannot both be 100% before God, either A is 100%, B is not. There would not be A and B, but just one A if Protestantism and Orthodoxy were the same things.
Do you really think the protestant path is not good enough to grant us salvation in the end?
I cannot judge for every single case, I would once again need to be God. I can though ask you this question in response.
Christians in the philippines, who crucify 2-3 church members (only through their hands) each year at lent, do you really think that their path isn´t good enough to grant them salvation in the end?
Whatever the answer may be, the question always boils down to if something is right or wrong. If the church always expressed its faith through other ways than crucifying its members, then that should be kept. Not because we want it, but because God wants it as the full path that the apostles came forth with from Christ.
If the church always had only male priests in their clergy. But what authority can Martin Luther now start a movement that nowadays accepts female priests in the clergy? Or encourages the protestant church not to ask saints for their prayers, while the church before that always did.
I hope my answers/examples were not to fuzzy, please please please forgive me if they were. Just wanted to give different perspectives on questions which normally may seem pretty obvious. Once again dear brother/sister, I pray that God blesses you both here and hereafter for the loving words you gave. I am 100% sure that the virgin Mary with all the saints close to the Lord asks him to grant the best of blessings upon you