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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2013, 01:56:47 AM »
I like that Bible, but I hate the cover.  :P
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No, if I hated him I'd have huge problems down the line.  :P

I was referring to the Youth Bible the GOA put out.  I have a copy of it, and it's a great size, but it's designed to look like jeans.  Do the youth really go for that, or was that some older person's idea of what young people would think is cool? 

http://www.amazon.com/Revised-Standard-Version-Catholic-Bible/dp/0195288564/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1373695563&sr=8-4&keywords=rsv+pocket

A really convenient volume, if you like the RSV.
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2013, 04:01:09 AM »
I was referring to the Youth Bible the GOA put out.  I have a copy of it, and it's a great size, but it's designed to look like jeans.  Do the youth really go for that

Not me.
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2013, 04:02:25 AM »
Could you recommend me an English translated Orthodox Bible that's an easy read? Also, it would help if there were commentaries or explanations to verses as sometimes it's hard to understand the Scriptures for a person who's learning the Christian faith.

The Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture series is very useful for beginners.

I own the two-part Genesis books and really like it.  Thing is, you need to be aware that the series has quotes from some who are considered heretical.

Not everything they (Origen, Tertullian, etc.) said was bad.
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2013, 12:58:34 PM »
Couple more days until I get that Norton Critical New Testament. Can't wait.
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2013, 12:58:34 PM »
There is no real Orthodox Bible in English--that is, one that has been blessed by a Holy Synod.

For a complete text, one can find the old Revised Standard Version Bible with all the books. The commentary therein isn't always helpful or accurate, but the text is complete and the translation is reasonable, though, again, there is no perfect translation.
The New Oxoford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha says Abp. Athenagora of GB expressed "satisfaction" at it.

I use it and/or the Orthodox Study Bible for general use in English.
Let's be clear on what New Oxford Annotated Bible, Isa is referring to:

http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Apocrypha-Standard-Expanded-Hardcover/dp/0195283481/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1373682502&sr=8-2&keywords=the+new+oxford+annotated+bible+with+the+apocrypha

I have this Bible and it is really great.
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2013, 02:24:21 PM »
I don't know why I quoted Rufus. I was answering the original question asked. I guess just agreeing with Rufus.

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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2013, 02:26:08 PM »
I was referring to the Youth Bible the GOA put out.  I have a copy of it, and it's a great size, but it's designed to look like jeans.  Do the youth really go for that

Not me.

Never could stand youth-oriented stuff. Especially if it's designed to look like jeans. Neurosis? Maturity? Who knows.

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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2013, 03:03:19 PM »
Neurosis?

I think the guys in Neurosis could put together a stellar edition.

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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2013, 04:24:15 PM »
I like that Bible, but I hate the cover.  :P
The Pantokrator?

No, if I hated him I'd have huge problems down the line.  :P

I was referring to the Youth Bible the GOA put out.  I have a copy of it, and it's a great size, but it's designed to look like jeans.  Do the youth really go for that, or was that some older person's idea of what young people would think is cool? 

http://www.amazon.com/Revised-Standard-Version-Catholic-Bible/dp/0195288564/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1373695563&sr=8-4&keywords=rsv+pocket

A really convenient volume, if you like the RSV.
Ah! I have that one as well! Yea, it's a terrible cover. The one I'm talking about is even smaller.
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2013, 08:28:13 AM »
Could you recommend me an English translated Orthodox Bible that's an easy read? Also, it would help if there were commentaries or explanations to verses as sometimes it's hard to understand the Scriptures for a person who's learning the Christian faith.

The Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture series is very useful for beginners.

I own the two-part Genesis books and really like it.  Thing is, you need to be aware that the series has quotes from some who are considered heretical.

Not everything they (Origen, Tertullian, etc.) said was bad.

Certainly not.  But who wants to have to look up all their quotes to make sure they're in line and not heretical?  I don't have the time.
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2013, 08:31:22 AM »
There is no real Orthodox Bible in English--that is, one that has been blessed by a Holy Synod.

For a complete text, one can find the old Revised Standard Version Bible with all the books. The commentary therein isn't always helpful or accurate, but the text is complete and the translation is reasonable, though, again, there is no perfect translation.
The New Oxoford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha says Abp. Athenagora of GB expressed "satisfaction" at it.

I use it and/or the Orthodox Study Bible for general use in English.
Let's be clear on what New Oxford Annotated Bible, Isa is referring to:

http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Apocrypha-Standard-Expanded-Hardcover/dp/0195283481/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1373682502&sr=8-2&keywords=the+new+oxford+annotated+bible+with+the+apocrypha

I have this Bible and it is really great.

I wasn't paying attention when I bought what I thought was this version.  Turns out I bought the NRSV.  I'm saving up for the one you and Isa have or the ESV Study Bible. 
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2013, 08:52:25 PM »
There is no real Orthodox Bible in English--that is, one that has been blessed by a Holy Synod.

For a complete text, one can find the old Revised Standard Version Bible with all the books. The commentary therein isn't always helpful or accurate, but the text is complete and the translation is reasonable, though, again, there is no perfect translation.
The New Oxoford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha says Abp. Athenagora of GB expressed "satisfaction" at it.

I use it and/or the Orthodox Study Bible for general use in English.
Let's be clear on what New Oxford Annotated Bible, Isa is referring to:

http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Apocrypha-Standard-Expanded-Hardcover/dp/0195283481/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1373682502&sr=8-2&keywords=the+new+oxford+annotated+bible+with+the+apocrypha

I have this Bible and it is really great.

I wasn't paying attention when I bought what I thought was this version.  Turns out I bought the NRSV.  I'm saving up for the one you and Isa have or the ESV Study Bible. 

You could get the new ESV with Apocrypha. http://www.amazon.com/English-Standard-Version-Bible-Apocrypha/dp/0195289102
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #57 on: September 28, 2013, 09:45:02 PM »
There is no real Orthodox Bible in English--that is, one that has been blessed by a Holy Synod.

For a complete text, one can find the old Revised Standard Version Bible with all the books. The commentary therein isn't always helpful or accurate, but the text is complete and the translation is reasonable, though, again, there is no perfect translation.
The New Oxoford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha says Abp. Athenagora of GB expressed "satisfaction" at it.

I use it and/or the Orthodox Study Bible for general use in English.
Let's be clear on what New Oxford Annotated Bible, Isa is referring to:

http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Apocrypha-Standard-Expanded-Hardcover/dp/0195283481/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1373682502&sr=8-2&keywords=the+new+oxford+annotated+bible+with+the+apocrypha

I have this Bible and it is really great.

I wasn't paying attention when I bought what I thought was this version.  Turns out I bought the NRSV.  I'm saving up for the one you and Isa have or the ESV Study Bible. 

You could get the new ESV with Apocrypha. http://www.amazon.com/English-Standard-Version-Bible-Apocrypha/dp/0195289102

 I'll probably end up buying that one at some point in the future.  I recently received the RSV w/ the Apocrypha.  Love it!
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #58 on: September 28, 2013, 10:35:47 PM »
I think whatever translation you do read, even the Message, should work in an Orthodox context. I don't think you will have much of a problem.

It's like the "young woman" part in Isaiah 7:14. We of course interpret that differently, but everything is interpretation anyway.
I'm not as sure about this, while I do agree that it is all interpretation, people who are reading Scriptures their first time around may be unaware of textual differences and translators' interpretations.  

In other words, one who's first Bible is the Nearly Inspired Version might not get all of the same ideas as one who's first Bible was the KJV.

This is another reason why we need to be knowledgeable in the Teachings of the Church before even reading the Scriptures.
And if you are already attending Orthodox services, you shouldn't mind the follies of a translator or an entire translation. I have come across "inaccuracies" myself in the RSV, but they have not served as stumbling blocks.

We have plenty of guidance to read the Scriptures at our disposal, and also our parish priest, so find a translation that works best for you.

We are followers of the Way, not about quibbling over minutiae on what kind of wood Noah built his Ark. I appreciate a longing for accuracy, but I am not sure it matters as a whole. Outside this board, it matters zip on a day to day basis.

Plus, if you fear inaccuracies in Scriptural translations, try not to think about all the inaccuracies in translations of liturgical texts. Oh boy.
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2013, 11:04:28 PM »
Plus, if you fear inaccuracies in Scriptural translations, try not to think about all the inaccuracies in translations of liturgical texts. Oh boy.
That's why I went to a Greek cathedral so I didn't have to worry about inaccuracy.
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #60 on: September 28, 2013, 11:29:43 PM »
Plus, if you fear inaccuracies in Scriptural translations, try not to think about all the inaccuracies in translations of liturgical texts. Oh boy.
That's why I went to a Greek cathedral so I didn't have to worry about inaccuracy.

Now if only they weren't using a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a translation  8)

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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2013, 11:48:48 PM »
Plus, if you fear inaccuracies in Scriptural translations, try not to think about all the inaccuracies in translations of liturgical texts. Oh boy.
That's why I went to a Greek cathedral so I didn't have to worry about inaccuracy.

Now if only they weren't using a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a translation  8)
Everything was written in Greek so I'm good.
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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2013, 11:51:06 PM »
Plus, if you fear inaccuracies in Scriptural translations, try not to think about all the inaccuracies in translations of liturgical texts. Oh boy.
That's why I went to a Greek cathedral so I didn't have to worry about inaccuracy.

Now if only they weren't using a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a translation  8)
Everything was written in Greek so I'm good.

I bet the Greek Jesus wrote in was impeccable  ;D

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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #63 on: September 29, 2013, 12:41:21 AM »
There is no real Orthodox Bible in English--that is, one that has been blessed by a Holy Synod.

For a complete text, one can find the old Revised Standard Version Bible with all the books. The commentary therein isn't always helpful or accurate, but the text is complete and the translation is reasonable, though, again, there is no perfect translation.
The New Oxoford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha says Abp. Athenagora of GB expressed "satisfaction" at it.

I use it and/or the Orthodox Study Bible for general use in English.
Let's be clear on what New Oxford Annotated Bible, Isa is referring to:

http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Apocrypha-Standard-Expanded-Hardcover/dp/0195283481/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1373682502&sr=8-2&keywords=the+new+oxford+annotated+bible+with+the+apocrypha

I have this Bible and it is really great.

I wasn't paying attention when I bought what I thought was this version.  Turns out I bought the NRSV.  I'm saving up for the one you and Isa have or the ESV Study Bible. 

You could get the new ESV with Apocrypha. http://www.amazon.com/English-Standard-Version-Bible-Apocrypha/dp/0195289102

 I'll probably end up buying that one at some point in the future.  I recently received the RSV w/ the Apocrypha.  Love it!

I have recently received the Ignatius Bible-RSV Catholic Edition. It's artsy and a pretty good translation from what I can see. I had the OSB... but when I got it from Amazon it was beat up and damaged, so I sent it back. The OSB is too expensive for now, so I got the cheaper RSV and On the Incarnation by St. Athanasius. I already own an ESV without the Apocrypha.

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Re: Please, recommend a Bible
« Reply #64 on: September 29, 2013, 12:57:50 AM »
Plus, if you fear inaccuracies in Scriptural translations, try not to think about all the inaccuracies in translations of liturgical texts. Oh boy.
That's why I went to a Greek cathedral so I didn't have to worry about inaccuracy.

Now if only they weren't using a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a translation  8)
Everything was written in Greek so I'm good.

I bet the Greek Jesus wrote in was impeccable  ;D
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