Author Topic: A good book on the Liturgy  (Read 2103 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Cyrillic

  • Make OC.net Great Again!
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 13,583
  • St. Theodoret of Cyrrhus, pray for us!
  • Jurisdiction: But my heart belongs to Finland
A good book on the Liturgy
« on: May 03, 2013, 04:35:59 AM »
Does anyone know of a good book which explains everything about the liturgy in detail? Thanks.
That is the land of lost content,          
  I see it shining plain,   
The happy highways where I went   
  And cannot come again.
-A.E. Housman

Offline Arachne

  • Trinary Unit || Resident Bossy Boots
  • Section Moderator
  • Merarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,869
  • You don't need global warming to drown in books.
  • Faith: Cradle Greek Orthodox. Cope.
  • Jurisdiction: Antiochian Archdiocese, UK
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 05:10:51 AM »
'Evil isn't the real threat to the world. Stupid is just as destructive as evil, maybe more so, and it's a hell of a lot more common. What we really need is a crusade against stupid. That might actually make a difference.'~Harry Dresden

Blog ~ Bookshelf ~ Jukebox

Offline Cyrillic

  • Make OC.net Great Again!
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 13,583
  • St. Theodoret of Cyrrhus, pray for us!
  • Jurisdiction: But my heart belongs to Finland
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2013, 05:15:24 AM »
That is the land of lost content,          
  I see it shining plain,   
The happy highways where I went   
  And cannot come again.
-A.E. Housman

Offline Arachne

  • Trinary Unit || Resident Bossy Boots
  • Section Moderator
  • Merarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,869
  • You don't need global warming to drown in books.
  • Faith: Cradle Greek Orthodox. Cope.
  • Jurisdiction: Antiochian Archdiocese, UK
'Evil isn't the real threat to the world. Stupid is just as destructive as evil, maybe more so, and it's a hell of a lot more common. What we really need is a crusade against stupid. That might actually make a difference.'~Harry Dresden

Blog ~ Bookshelf ~ Jukebox

Offline Cyrillic

  • Make OC.net Great Again!
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 13,583
  • St. Theodoret of Cyrrhus, pray for us!
  • Jurisdiction: But my heart belongs to Finland
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2013, 06:48:28 AM »
Looks like I'll need a new bookcase. Thanks.

Which one would you recommend?
That is the land of lost content,          
  I see it shining plain,   
The happy highways where I went   
  And cannot come again.
-A.E. Housman

Offline Arachne

  • Trinary Unit || Resident Bossy Boots
  • Section Moderator
  • Merarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,869
  • You don't need global warming to drown in books.
  • Faith: Cradle Greek Orthodox. Cope.
  • Jurisdiction: Antiochian Archdiocese, UK
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2013, 06:51:39 AM »
Knowing your level of detailing, I'd go for links 1, 3, or 4. ;D
'Evil isn't the real threat to the world. Stupid is just as destructive as evil, maybe more so, and it's a hell of a lot more common. What we really need is a crusade against stupid. That might actually make a difference.'~Harry Dresden

Blog ~ Bookshelf ~ Jukebox

Offline Cyrillic

  • Make OC.net Great Again!
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 13,583
  • St. Theodoret of Cyrrhus, pray for us!
  • Jurisdiction: But my heart belongs to Finland
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2013, 06:59:22 AM »
Knowing your level of detailing, I'd go for links 1, 3, or 4. ;D

Thanks! The one with the Greek text on the one side and the English translation on the other does sound interesting. I ordered number 3.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2013, 07:01:30 AM by Cyrillic »
That is the land of lost content,          
  I see it shining plain,   
The happy highways where I went   
  And cannot come again.
-A.E. Housman

Offline Ezo

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 33
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 12:49:50 PM »
This is the reference book commenting the Orthodox Liturgy:

http://www.denver.goarch.org/liturgical/articles/pm/pm-12.pdf
http://books.google.fr/books/about/A_Commentary_on_the_Divine_Liturgy.html?id=TV2maSGvcnkC&redir_esc=y

”Nicholas Cabasilas' Commentary on the Divine Liturgy is a remarkable product of Byzantium's last great flowering of theology. The work has long been essential reading for specialists in the fields of comparative liturgy and history of liturgy, since Cabasilas comments in detail on the Byzantine rite of his day and is able to draw comparisons with the Roman liturgy as well. The work is also invaluable for all those who wish to understand more about the theory and practice of worship in the Orthodox Church.”
Iisus Hristos = Jesus Christ

Offline Mor Ephrem

  • "Mor has a huge ego"
  • Section Moderator
  • Protospatharios
  • *****
  • Posts: 31,022
  • We are all Gustavito!
    • OrthodoxChristianity.net
  • Faith: Orthodox
  • Jurisdiction: East
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2013, 12:54:11 PM »
Does anyone know of a good book which explains everything about the liturgy in detail? Thanks.

What exactly are you looking for?  Liturgy meaning the Eucharistic Liturgy or the entire Rite?  And in terms of explanations, do you mean history of development, "rubrics", theology, etc.?  I could make some recommendations that haven't yet been made, but it helps to narrow it down. 
How can you be so incarnationally constipated?

Don't forget about oc.net's women ;)

Can we have one thread where it doesn't devolve into how many people are hot for Mor?

Offline Cyrillic

  • Make OC.net Great Again!
  • Toumarches
  • ************
  • Posts: 13,583
  • St. Theodoret of Cyrrhus, pray for us!
  • Jurisdiction: But my heart belongs to Finland
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2013, 12:55:29 PM »
Does anyone know of a good book which explains everything about the liturgy in detail? Thanks.

What exactly are you looking for?  Liturgy meaning the Eucharistic Liturgy or the entire Rite?  And in terms of explanations, do you mean history of development, "rubrics", theology, etc.?  I could make some recommendations that haven't yet been made, but it helps to narrow it down. 

An explanation of the "rubrics" of the Eucharistic Liturgy would be nice.
That is the land of lost content,          
  I see it shining plain,   
The happy highways where I went   
  And cannot come again.
-A.E. Housman

Offline Alpo

  • Merarches
  • ***********
  • Posts: 8,937
  • Je suis Janusz Korwin-Mikke
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2013, 12:56:35 PM »
The Spirit of the Liturgy by pope Benedict XVI  :police:
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 19:34

Offline biro

  • Site Supporter
  • Stratopedarches
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,601
  • Excelsior
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2013, 01:01:37 PM »
"Living the Liturgy," by Fr. Stanley Harakas. In English. Simple details, and reminds us how to participate in every section of the service. This is one my priest asked me to read for the catechumenate.
In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey

Online Asteriktos

  • Hypatos
  • *****************
  • Posts: 34,715
  • Faith: God
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2013, 01:10:28 PM »
Of the few I've read, I'd rank them like this according to how good I thought they were and how useful I'd imagine they'd be in this case...

Fr. Lawrence Farley - Let Us Attend: A Journey through the Orthodox Divine Liturgy
St. Nicholas Cabasilas - Commentary on the Divine Liturgy
St. Germanus I of Constantinople - On the Divine Liturgy
Archbp. Lazar Puhalo - Understanding the Divine Liturgy (Scripture in the Liturgy)
"It is not as a child that I believe and confess Jesus Christ. My hosanna is born of a furnace of doubt." - Dostoevsky

Offline Orthodox11

  • Archon
  • ********
  • Posts: 2,994
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2013, 01:11:20 PM »
Robert Taft is probably the go-to guy when it comes to the Byzantine rite.

Online Luke

  • Formerly Gamliel
  • Protokentarchos
  • *********
  • Posts: 4,610
  • "Truth is born as lightning strikes -- Archilochos
  • Faith: Orthodox
  • Jurisdiction: Metropolis of San Francisco
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 01:47:06 PM »
I liked The Heavenly Banquet: Understanding the Divine Liturgy by Fr. Emmanuel Hatzidakis, which Arachne already gave a link to.

Offline Mor Ephrem

  • "Mor has a huge ego"
  • Section Moderator
  • Protospatharios
  • *****
  • Posts: 31,022
  • We are all Gustavito!
    • OrthodoxChristianity.net
  • Faith: Orthodox
  • Jurisdiction: East
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 02:27:45 PM »
An explanation of the "rubrics" of the Eucharistic Liturgy would be nice.

Well, I don't own a copy of Hatzidakis, but that seemed to be pretty good when I looked through it.  Another one I'd check out is The Divine Liturgy: A Commentary in the Light of the Fathers by Hieromonk Gregorios: http://www.amazon.com/The-Divine-Liturgy-Commentary-Fathers/dp/0981731767

I own a copy, and it's a great book for the price...haven't read it cover to cover, but I think you'd like it.     

I don't know that much about most of the other books referenced here, so I'll let others speak for them.  Definitely read Germanos' and Cabasilas' commentaries anyway.  But for something traditional but with the modern "incarnation" of the Liturgy, those are my recommendations.   
How can you be so incarnationally constipated?

Don't forget about oc.net's women ;)

Can we have one thread where it doesn't devolve into how many people are hot for Mor?

Offline mildert

  • Protodeacon Philip
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
Re: A good book on the Liturgy
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2013, 03:23:59 PM »
Some other interesting books:

A Practical Handbook for Divine Services by Fr Gregory W. Woolfenden
The Eucharist: Sacrament of the Kingdom by Fr Alexander Schmemann

In XC,

Protodeacon Philip