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Prayers: No Teaching License
« on: April 26, 2013, 01:12:32 PM »
Hey all. Well, in the state of NM, there is a complex process involved in renewing a level one license in which one has to turn in a portfolio/dossier in order to keep one's license after so many years. There was a problem with the submission of my dossier, and as of mid June, I will no longer have a teaching license in NM.

Not entirely sure what my next step is careerwise. Having been in education for the past 9 years, I don't have any experience in any other career field that might help me get a new job.

Please keep me in your prayers.
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 01:30:16 PM »
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 01:32:36 PM »
Lord, have mercy on your servant.

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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 01:36:47 PM »
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 01:58:47 PM »
Lord have mercy. There must be some to clear this up.
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 01:59:15 PM »
Hey all. Well, in the state of NM, there is a complex process involved in renewing a level one license in which one has to turn in a portfolio/dossier in order to keep one's license after so many years. There was a problem with the submission of my dossier, and as of mid June, I will no longer have a teaching license in NM.

Not entirely sure what my next step is careerwise. Having been in education for the past 9 years, I don't have any experience in any other career field that might help me get a new job.

Please keep me in your prayers.

Lord, have mercy on Papist!

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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2013, 02:02:51 PM »
Lord have mercy.

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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2013, 02:03:12 PM »
Lord, have mercy!

Is there there no way of appealing?

Can you resubmit for next year?

Praying you find something to keep you going until it's all cleared up.
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2013, 02:45:44 PM »
Lord have mercy!
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2013, 03:49:31 PM »
I am a former teacher and I know people who have gone through the same thing.

Get on the internet and look up the qualifications for getting certified in all 50 states.   Some states, like yours, are inflexible and rigid.  Others (like Montana) are quite flexible and not nearly as bureaucratic. 

States vary WIDELY and there is no logic to it.  For example, I have 10 years experience and a Master's degree in South Carolina. When I was originally certified way back in 1989, I got an endorsement to teach English and Social Studies in grades 6-12.  However, a couple of years ago, South Carolina created a separate "Middle School Certification" for grades 5-8 and said that the Secondary School Certification would now only cover grades 9-12.  If you wanted to teach Middle School, (even if you had 10 years experience and had been teaching Middle School for 5 years already) you had to take the Praxis Exam and score at least 165 on it to maintain your Middle School Certification. (A score of 165, by the way, is the SECOND HIGHEST score required by any state in the nation.  Only Ohio requires a higher score.)   Anyway, I took the Praxis test twice and scored 163 the first time and 161 the second time.  So I lost my teaching job at the Middle School.  (I was teaching 8th grade English.)

Now if I had had a job teaching 9th grade English or above, I would have been able to keep it, because I am still certified at grades 9-12.  If I were teaching in neighboring North Carolina or Georgia, I would have been able to continue teaching 8th grade because they don't require a score that high.  Heck, if I wanted to teach Middle School in New York or California I would qualify, but not here in my home state.  Isn't bureaucracy wonderful?  And people wonder why so many teachers leave the teaching profession.  LOL

However, don't despair.  Things will work out.  You are in my prayers.





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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2013, 06:59:18 PM »
Lord, have mercy!

Is there there no way of appealing?

Can you resubmit for next year?

Praying you find something to keep you going until it's all cleared up.
I have been in contact with the Professional Education Department, but they don't want to let me appeal. I can't get my license renewed for three years. That is their policy. NM is the only state that has this dossier process.
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2013, 07:41:53 PM »
You may want to look into getting an advocate or even a lawyer. 

Really feel bad for you Papist. 

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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2013, 08:21:23 PM »
Papist:  Are you a member of the NEA?  I was and they provided me with a lawyer (free of charge) when I needed one.  The cost was covered by my yearly membership dues.  If that doesn't work, see what the certification requirements are in the states that border New Mexico.  See if any of the border states have a reciprocity agreement with New Mexico.

If all else fails, go online to this website and post your resume:  www.teachers-teachers.com

They post teaching jobs from all over the nation and even a few foreign countries.  You could teach in Saudi Arabia, Korea, Japan or China during your three year wait and still have income coming in.

Good luck and God's blessings.

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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2013, 08:31:04 PM »
Lord, have mercy!
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2013, 08:50:39 PM »
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2013, 08:52:36 PM »
Lord, Have Mercy!

Are you unable to resubmit?

This is of special interest to me as I plan a career in education within the next few years.
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2013, 09:49:21 PM »
Lord, have mercy!

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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2013, 10:54:25 PM »
Lord, have mercy on Papist.
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2013, 09:53:27 AM »
Lord, Have Mercy!

Are you unable to resubmit?

This is of special interest to me as I plan a career in education within the next few years.
No, I can't.  :(
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Re: Prayers: No Teaching License
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2013, 09:54:02 AM »
I am a former teacher and I know people who have gone through the same thing.

Get on the internet and look up the qualifications for getting certified in all 50 states.   Some states, like yours, are inflexible and rigid.  Others (like Montana) are quite flexible and not nearly as bureaucratic. 

States vary WIDELY and there is no logic to it.  For example, I have 10 years experience and a Master's degree in South Carolina. When I was originally certified way back in 1989, I got an endorsement to teach English and Social Studies in grades 6-12.  However, a couple of years ago, South Carolina created a separate "Middle School Certification" for grades 5-8 and said that the Secondary School Certification would now only cover grades 9-12.  If you wanted to teach Middle School, (even if you had 10 years experience and had been teaching Middle School for 5 years already) you had to take the Praxis Exam and score at least 165 on it to maintain your Middle School Certification. (A score of 165, by the way, is the SECOND HIGHEST score required by any state in the nation.  Only Ohio requires a higher score.)   Anyway, I took the Praxis test twice and scored 163 the first time and 161 the second time.  So I lost my teaching job at the Middle School.  (I was teaching 8th grade English.)

Now if I had had a job teaching 9th grade English or above, I would have been able to keep it, because I am still certified at grades 9-12.  If I were teaching in neighboring North Carolina or Georgia, I would have been able to continue teaching 8th grade because they don't require a score that high.  Heck, if I wanted to teach Middle School in New York or California I would qualify, but not here in my home state.  Isn't bureaucracy wonderful?  And people wonder why so many teachers leave the teaching profession.  LOL

However, don't despair.  Things will work out.  You are in my prayers.





Thank you very much for the good advice. I'm going to look into applying for my license in Texas, Colorado, Arizona, and California.
You are right. I apologize for having sacked Constantinople. I really need to stop doing that.