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Offline Dpaula

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Suicide
« on: April 13, 2013, 02:09:03 PM »
Hi everybody,

Last night one of my future husband's good friend decided to take his own life. He did it in a very aggressive way and we are all in shock.
He was in the middle of separating from his wife with whom he had a young son.
He also had another son from a previous relationship.
He wasn't Orthodox. I don't even know if he was a believer at all.
I just feel so sad and helpless.

All I can do is pray for his soul and ask God to have mercy on him.
I don't even know if we're supposed to pray for suicidal people?? Is there a specific prayer I can use? Can we light a candle for him tomorrow? Can we mention him to our priest?

So sad...........
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 02:11:50 PM »
I don't even know if we're supposed to pray for suicidal people??

Love prays for everybody.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2013, 02:12:44 PM »
Lord have mercy.
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2013, 02:17:51 PM »
Lord have mercy.  Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy on this young man - Lord, please have mercy.

Lord Jesus, please also have mercy on his family, his two young sons and all that knew him and loved him. 

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2013, 02:51:45 PM »
Lord have mercy.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2013, 02:55:15 PM »
Lord have mercy.
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2013, 03:03:19 PM »
Pray anyway.  If it does not help him, it will at least help you.  And who knows what was in his mind in the end.  We are not to judge.
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2013, 04:26:35 PM »
I don't even know if we're supposed to pray for suicidal people??

Love prays for everybody.

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Amen!
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2013, 05:12:21 PM »
Hi everybody,

Last night one of my future husband's good friend decided to take his own life. He did it in a very aggressive way and we are all in shock.
He was in the middle of separating from his wife with whom he had a young son.
He also had another son from a previous relationship.
He wasn't Orthodox. I don't even know if he was a believer at all.
I just feel so sad and helpless.

All I can do is pray for his soul and ask God to have mercy on him.
I don't even know if we're supposed to pray for suicidal people?? Is there a specific prayer I can use? Can we light a candle for him tomorrow? Can we mention him to our priest?

So sad...........

May God have mercy on the person's soul!

In my Orthodox prayer book* there is a specific prayer for suicidal people, it is written by st.Leo of Optina (+1841):

Lord, search for the perished soul of (the name of the person) and if it is possible, have mercy on it. Unexplored are your destinies, o God! Do not take to me as a sin this prayer! Let Thy Holy Will be done o Lord!


*my prayer book is not in English, the translation is mine, i hope i translated it correctly.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2013, 06:05:21 PM »
Lord have mercy.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2013, 06:22:48 PM »
While he cannot be prayed for by name in church by the priest, except in the canon to St. Warus for the departed--the holy martyr is known to intercede for the non-Orthodox departed and suicides, do pray for him at home, light candles, and do good works in his memory. Remember the good in him and do good from that. When we pray and act from love and pain of heart, we give God an excuse to act, Elder Paisios said, even where otherwise He would respect the free will of the person for whom we pray and act. God is moved by compassion. God wants to save everyone.
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2013, 06:30:40 PM »
Please, keep in mind this is a Prayer forum and carry your discussions in other sections.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2013, 06:49:56 PM »
Lord, have mercy!

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2013, 07:04:40 PM »
Thank you all so much!!
Such a tragedy!!

Thank you!

May the Good Lord have mercy on him!

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2013, 10:40:53 PM »
Lord have mercy!  Lord please have understanding for this man, take away his pain, and bring him into your loving kingdom.  Lord your mercy is infinite, your love without comparison, if it is your will, have mercy on the reposed.

God bless this family in their time of need.


(We have gone through a family suicide before, with a gunshot involved.   It was horrible, and his age was 29.  There are many questions that go unanswered, and many people blame themselves some.   Just remember that God loves you.... God is good.  My heart goes out to you & your future husband - and the man's family & loved ones)
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Re: Suicide
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2013, 12:16:32 AM »
Lord, have mercy.
Psalm 37:23 The Lord guides a man safely in the way he should go.

Prov. 3: 5-6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths.

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Re: Suicide
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2013, 08:19:32 AM »
Lord, have mercy on the departed, and on his family and friends.